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Feds Will Spend $400,000 to Study Drinking and Sex Habits of Homosexuals in Argentina
CNSNews.com ^ | May 04, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 6:18:38 AM by Man50D

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) is funding a study that seeks to discover a link between drinking and having sex among homosexuals in Argentina.

The study will send researchers to six bars in Buenos Aires to interview both patrons and proprietors in an effort to discover what it is about those bars that may encourage the risky behavior.

The study began on Sept. 30, 2008, and runs through Aug. 31, 2010. It already has cost taxpayers $198,776. By the time the project ends, it will have cost $403,902, according to NIH.

The grant, awarded to the New York State Psychiatric Institute, was provided by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA), the division of NIH that studies the effects of alcohol and alcoholism.

The study’s primary focus is to determine the relationship among drinking, bars frequented by homosexuals, and risky sexual behavior to see if certain bars in Argentina might be good targets for HIV-prevention campaigns.

“Targeting public venues in Buenos Aires where men meet, alcohol is consumed, and sexual behavior occurs, the goal of this two-year exploratory study is to understand the various factors that contribute to the creation of a high-risk sexual space,” the study’s abstract explains.

"To that end, the study seeks to describe the relative contribution of physical characteristics of the place, patron characteristics, type and level of alcohol consumption, and social dynamics that are at play and potentiate each other to result in sexual risk behavior."

The study has six goals, including the collection of information on six specific bars in Buenos Aires; the appearance, of those bars, alcohol availability, patrons, and types of sexual behavior taking place. The study also seeks to identify which factors contribute to alcohol consumption and sexual behavior in the bars.

“The specific aims of this study are to … 2) identify factors that contribute to alcohol use and high-risk sexual behavior in the venues,” says the abstract.

Researchers will interview 48 of the men who patronize the bars, as well as the bar staff to gather information on the types of alcohol consumed and sexual behavior engaged in.

“Venue patrons will also undergo a brief quantitative assessment to gather descriptive data on sexual behavior and substance use.”

After discovering why men who drink in these bars have homosexual sex, researchers will then try to discover whether it is possible to conduct anti-HIV interventions and how to conduct those interventions.

The study will “4) assess willingness of venue owners/personnel to partner with HIV prevention organizations in reducing HIV risk in these settings and [what] types of prevention programs they find acceptable.”

While the study is being conducted in Argentina, it is being funded with U.S. tax dollars. The grant recipients--who could not be reached for comment--say in the abstract that information gathered in the bars in Argentina might help inform similar efforts in America.

“We expect findings to be useful in informing venue-based interventions for these types of venues in other countries.”

The study is among a number funded by the NIAAA to examine the relationship between drinking and the spread of HIV, including a study of tourism, prostitution, and HIV in the Dominican Republic and another study examining drinking and HIV among prostitutes in China.

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Hey TA - is this an example of the great research you say the Govt does?


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sounds like somebody got a grant to go party in Argentina.  Clever.

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sounds like somebody got a grant to go party in Argentina.  Clever.

Where does this nonsense end?

I could use 400k to study how big boods affect a mans thinking while drinking.  I will save the grant money and use myself as the subject.

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Feds Will Spend $400,000 to Study Drinking and Sex Habits of Homosexuals in Argentina
CNSNews.com ^ | May 04, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 6:18:38 AM by Man50D

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) is funding a study that seeks to discover a link between drinking and having sex among homosexuals in Argentina.

The study will send researchers to six bars in Buenos Aires to interview both patrons and proprietors in an effort to discover what it is about those bars that may encourage the risky behavior.

The study began on Sept. 30, 2008, and runs through Aug. 31, 2010. It already has cost taxpayers $198,776. By the time the project ends, it will have cost $403,902, according to NIH.

The grant, awarded to the New York State Psychiatric Institute, was provided by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA), the division of NIH that studies the effects of alcohol and alcoholism.

The study’s primary focus is to determine the relationship among drinking, bars frequented by homosexuals, and risky sexual behavior to see if certain bars in Argentina might be good targets for HIV-prevention campaigns.

“Targeting public venues in Buenos Aires where men meet, alcohol is consumed, and sexual behavior occurs, the goal of this two-year exploratory study is to understand the various factors that contribute to the creation of a high-risk sexual space,” the study’s abstract explains.

"To that end, the study seeks to describe the relative contribution of physical characteristics of the place, patron characteristics, type and level of alcohol consumption, and social dynamics that are at play and potentiate each other to result in sexual risk behavior."

The study has six goals, including the collection of information on six specific bars in Buenos Aires; the appearance, of those bars, alcohol availability, patrons, and types of sexual behavior taking place. The study also seeks to identify which factors contribute to alcohol consumption and sexual behavior in the bars.

“The specific aims of this study are to … 2) identify factors that contribute to alcohol use and high-risk sexual behavior in the venues,” says the abstract.

Researchers will interview 48 of the men who patronize the bars, as well as the bar staff to gather information on the types of alcohol consumed and sexual behavior engaged in.

“Venue patrons will also undergo a brief quantitative assessment to gather descriptive data on sexual behavior and substance use.”

After discovering why men who drink in these bars have homosexual sex, researchers will then try to discover whether it is possible to conduct anti-HIV interventions and how to conduct those interventions.

The study will “4) assess willingness of venue owners/personnel to partner with HIV prevention organizations in reducing HIV risk in these settings and [what] types of prevention programs they find acceptable.”

While the study is being conducted in Argentina, it is being funded with U.S. tax dollars. The grant recipients--who could not be reached for comment--say in the abstract that information gathered in the bars in Argentina might help inform similar efforts in America.

“We expect findings to be useful in informing venue-based interventions for these types of venues in other countries.”

The study is among a number funded by the NIAAA to examine the relationship between drinking and the spread of HIV, including a study of tourism, prostitution, and HIV in the Dominican Republic and another study examining drinking and HIV among prostitutes in China.

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Your tax dollars at work. 

Hey TA - is this an example of the great research you say the Govt does?


Your story is a complete lie and myth and miscalculation. I know of the researchers in charge some of the Latin American operations.


NIDA/CICAD Research Awards Announced
Through its Latin America Initiative, NIDA and the Inter-American Drug Abuse Control Commission (CICAD) cosponsor the Competitive Research Award Fund to support drug use research in the region. Awards support pre- or postdoctoral students conducting research in any area of the drug use field. Priority is given to projects involving secondary analysis of existing research databases, such as national drug use surveys. The national drug commissions in Organization of American States member countries review initial applications and forward appropriate projects to the CICAD Inter-American Observatory on Drugs for review by representatives from NIDA and CICAD. The call for applications for the second round of awards was issued in October 2007. The second-round awards include:


    * Argentina
          o Ariel Gerardo Blanc - Analysis of risk and protection factors associated with the increase and decrease of psychoactive substance use among secondary school students in the Province of Entre Rios, 2001-2005.
          o Jorge Andres Bustos - Drug use and abuse: Study of the sociodemographic profiles, patterns of use, cognitive aspects, and beliefs regarding pharmacology.


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Furthermore, that 400,000 covers projects in THE ENTIRE CONTINENT OF South America.


hirty scientists from around the world presented their research at the International Poster Session cosponsored by the NIDA International Program and Division of Epidemiology, Services and Prevention Research, Prevention Research Branch in conjunction with the 16th Annual Meeting of the Society for Prevention Research (SPR). Half of the scientists—all international researchers—received NIDA travel awards to present research conducted by international researchers or binational teams on drug abuse prevention research completed in international settings. The other 15 researchers were U.S. researchers whose research was conducted in other countries or as part of a binational team. The session attracted about 150 SPR registrants and was very well received. The SPR meeting, which was held May 28–30 in San Francisco, focused on research in prevention science designed to aid understanding of the ways in which social and physical settings matter in designing interventions and understanding intervention impact. Other conference themes included: (1) how and under what conditions research is used to influence policies and practices or how policy priorities shape what researchers study; (2) the role of culture, ethnicity, and health disparities in prevention research; (3) the developmental period of emerging adulthood, which extends roughly through the ages 18 to 29; and (4) advances in epidemiology, etiology, efficacy trials, effectiveness trials, dissemination, and innovative methods.
There’s Still Time: Register Onsite for the 2008 NIDA International Forum!

Agenda
Globally Improving and Applying Evidence-Based Interventions for Addictions
June 13–17, 2008
San Juan, Puerto Rico
Online International Master of Science in Addiction Studies Now Accepting Applications

The University of Adelaide, King’s College London, and Virginia Commonwealth University have created the International Programme in Addiction Studies, an online, 12-month intensive graduate program available to students from all countries. No campus attendance is required; online lectures, assignments, and correspondence will be in English only. The program is designed to develop professionals who are fully prepared to assume leadership roles in the addictions field throughout the world. Students will study the scientific basis of addiction, comparative epidemiology, evidence-based interventions (including pharmacological, psychosocial, and public health approaches), research methodology, and addictions policy. Lecturers will be selected from among the world’s leading authorities in each of these subject areas, while program directors will be faculty members of the three participating universities. The firm scientific grounding of the program, covering a range of areas from treatment to policy, and its unique international perspective make it appropriate for recent graduates and professionals working in a range of fields such as health, law enforcement, policy, and education. Graduates of the program will be able to:

    * Translate research on addiction into more effective treatment and prevention practices.
    * Translate research into more effective policies at the local, state, national, and/or international level to address public health issues.
    * Become specialists in addiction by integrating program material into their profession/practice.

The International Programme in Addiction Studies begins in August 2008, and online applications are now being accepted. For more information about the program, including admission requirements, curriculum outline, and tuition fees, please contact Femke Pijlman, Ph.D., University of Adelaide, femke.pijlman@adelaide.edu.au; Kim Wolff, Ph.D., King’s College London, kim.wolff@iop.kcl.ac.uk; or Mary Loos, Ph.D., Virginia Commonwealth University, meloos@vcu.edu.
Rockefeller University Honors Mary Jeanne Kreek

A symposium celebrating the achievements of Mary Jeanne Kreek, M.D., the Patrick E. and Beatrice M. Haggerty Professor and Head of the Laboratory of the Biology of Addictive Diseases at Rockefeller University, was held on May 16, 2008, on the Rockefeller University campus in New York City. The keynote address was given by NIDA Director Nora Volkow, M.D. Former and current members of Dr. Kreek’s laboratory presented scientific talks covering the broad scope of interdisciplinary research carried out in the area of addictive diseases and associated conditions, including Miriam Ochshorn Adelson, M.D.; Gavin Bart, M.D.; John Mantsch, Ph.D.; Ellen Unterwald, Ph.D.; Eduardo Butelman, Ph.D.; and Jeffrey Friedman, M.D., Ph.D. The symposium also included three genetics presentations by current Kreek Laboratory members David Nielsen, Ph.D., Orna Levran, Ph.D., and Vadim Yuferov, Ph.D., continuing the work of the late K. Steven LaForge, Ph.D., who was a long-time member of Dr. Kreek’s laboratory prior to his leaving to expand his genetics work in Finland and subsequent death. The symposium was attended by more than 350 people.
NIDA/CICAD Research Awards Announced

Through its Latin American Initiative, NIDA and the Inter-American Drug Abuse Control Commission (CICAD) cosponsor the Competitive Research Award Fund to support drug use research in the region. Awards support pre- or postdoctoral students conducting research in any area of the drug use field. Priority is given to projects involving secondary analysis of existing research databases, such as national drug use surveys. The national drug commissions in Organization of American States member countries review initial applications and forward appropriate projects to the CICAD Inter-American Observatory on Drugs for review by representatives from NIDA, CICAD, and the U.S. National Hispanic Science Network. The call for applications for the second round of awards was issued in October 2007. The second-round awards include:

    * Argentina
          o Ariel Gerardo Blanc – Analysis of Risk and Protection Factors Associated With the Increase and Decrease of Psychoactive Substance Use Among Secondary School Students in the Province of Entre Rios, 2001–2005.
          o Jorge Andrés Bustos – Drug Use and Abuse: Study of the Sociodemographic Profiles, Patterns of Use, Cognitive Aspects, and Beliefs Regarding Pharmacology.
    * Bolivia
          o Erik Fernández Revollo – Psychological Risk and Protective Factors for Drug Use in the Cities of La Paz and El Alto.
    * Brazil
          o Marcelo Niel – The “Coming Out” Process and Its Influence on Mental Health and the Abuse or Dependence on Psychoactive Substances Among Male Homosexuals.
          o Monica Siqueira Malta – Ten Years of Free Access and Universal Treatment for HIV/AIDS: Evaluating the Impact of the Brazilian Response to the AIDS Epidemic Among Drug Users.
          o Virgínia Martins Carvalho – Study on Crack Use Related to Violent Deaths in the State of São Paulo.
          o Nathália Susin – Mapping the Profile of Psychoactive Drug Users in Specialized Clinics.
    * Chile
          o Marcos Antonio Muñoz Robles – Typology and Sociodemographic Characterization of Drug Users in Chile.
          o Marta Ester Belmar-Mellado – Relationship Between the Expectations Related to Tobacco Use With Body Image: A Comparative Study Among Spanish and Chilean Adolescents.
    * Colombia
          o Catalina López Quintero – Perceived Harmfulness of Drugs and Its Association With Drug Use Onset and Transition to an Established Pattern of Drug Use Among Adolescents in Bogotá, Colombia.
          o Marcela Correa Muñoz – Relationship and Impact of Psychoactive Substance Use on Health in Colombia.
          o Luz Adriana Rivera Gonzalez – Life Habits That Include Drug Use Prevalence in the Student Population of the Popular Catholic University of Risaralda.
          o Juan Sebastián Sabogal Carmona – Determining the Composition of Drugs of Abuse Seized In Bogota During the Second Semester of 2008.
    * Ecuador
          o Clara Inés Jácome – Critical Descriptive Analysis of the Application of the Psychosomatic Exam in the Penal Procedures of Ecuador and Its Legal Consequences.
    * Mexico
          o Marycarmen Noemí Bustos – Psychosocial Factors Associated With Drug Consumption Among High School Students In Jalisco.
    * Uruguay
          o Carla Sacchi – Gender Analysis of the Development of Illegal Drug Consumption Among Students at the School of Professional Technical Education of Montevideo (2001–2007).
          o Marcelo Rossal – Reciprocity and Distribution of Cocaine Paste: An Anthropological Focus.
          o Soledad Brescia, Gabriela López, and Margarita Wschebor – Patients in the Psychiatric Hospital and Comorbidity With Psychoactive Substance Consumption.

Applications Due June 30 for 2008 ISAJE/WHO Young Scholars Award

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I dont see how your post provied anything. 

Either way, its a complete waste of money.

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Your story is a myth and a Lie.  You are assuming that 400,000 is being applied to a single study when that is Simply NOT THE CASE.

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Hopefully this will put it in perspective.  This is a direct result of the NIH research.

World Bank forecast that Brazil would have 1.2 million HIV-positive people by this year. The Brazilian government responded with a series of bold moves involving the health service and citizens groups across the nation. As a result, the actual number infected is believed to be only 600,000 - half what was forecast. At the heart of Brazil's success is its drug-distribution programme.




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FROM YOUR OWN STUPID POST:  

* Argentina
          o Ariel Gerardo Blanc – Analysis of Risk and Protection Factors Associated With the Increase and Decrease of Psychoactive Substance Use Among Secondary School Students in the Province of Entre Rios, 2001–2005.
          o Jorge Andrés Bustos – Drug Use and Abuse: Study of the Sociodemographic Profiles, Patterns of Use, Cognitive Aspects, and Beliefs Regarding Pharmacology.
    * Bolivia
          o Erik Fernández Revollo – Psychological Risk and Protective Factors for Drug Use in the Cities of La Paz and El Alto.
    * Brazil
          o Marcelo Niel – The “Coming Out” Process and Its Influence on Mental Health and the Abuse or Dependence on Psychoactive Substances Among Male Homosexuals.



Why the heck are we wasting money on this nonsense?

The answers to these questions dont need further study, they are obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense.

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Why should my tax dollars go to AIDS research in Brazil?

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Why should my tax dollars go to AIDS research in Brazil?
Disease does not know any borders.  The Swine Flu and its spread should be a small lesson on why it is necessary for us to be engaged in disease prevention and research in all Countries.



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men meet, alcohol is consumed, and sexual behavior occurs,



Wow.  That is the most astounding discovery of modern times.  

My question is, why did they choose Argentina?  They could have done the same study in Manhattan.

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Disease does not know any borders.  The Swine Flu and its spread should be a small lesson on why it is necessary for us to be engaged in disease prevention and research in all Countries.




Aids to me has always been a very political situation.  

The answers are not popular, but effective.  

Dont share needles with other drug addicts
Dont have unprotected gay sex
Dont get sleep around with people you dont know.

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Wow.  That is the most astounding discovery of modern times.  

My question is, why did they choose Argentina?  They could have done the same study in Manhattan.

Like I said, and hey Lurker, you can join me.  TA, you too.  Lets get the gov to give us 500k to study the effects of alcohol and big boobs with men in NYC.

TA - write up the grant application. 

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The answers are not popular, but effective.  

Dont share needles with other drug addicts
Dont have unprotected gay sex
Dont get sleep around with people you dont know.

The second reason here could be omitted and I would agree with your entire statement.  Not that it is wrong, but by saying "gay" sex it is a bit skewed when the truth is unprotected sex in any form, homosexual or heterosexual, carries great risk.

Sharing needles is a huge risk as well, unfortunately as we have long concluded, those people who share needles are not exercising good judgment or health/safety awareness in the first place.  Or else they wouldn't be using needles on themselves.  But substance abuse of harmful and addictive compounds that detach the user from reality more often than not detach them from common sense and logical thinking as well.  When you escape into the fog of illicit substance use, you simply override your built in safety and self care mechanism as well.

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The second reason here could be omitted and I would agree with your entire statement.  Not that it is wrong, but by saying "gay" sex it is a bit skewed when the truth is unprotected sex in any form, homosexual or heterosexual, carries great risk.

Sharing needles is a huge risk as well, unfortunately as we have long concluded, those people who share needles are not exercising good judgment or health/safety awareness in the first place.  Or else they wouldn't be using needles on themselves.  But substance abuse of harmful and addictive compounds that detach the user from reality more often than not detach them from common sense and logical thinking as well.  When you escape into the fog of illicit substance use, you simply override your built in safety and self care mechanism as well.

Fine, agreed.

I just dont understand why these simple things are not pounded into peoples' heads daily. 

Not only for aids, but general well being. 

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Like I said, and hey Lurker, you can join me.  TA, you too.  Lets get the gov to give us 500k to study the effects of alcohol and big boobs with men in NYC.

TA - write up the grant application. 

Seriously, I am wondering why they choose Argentina in the first place.  Sure, a study like this *could* provide insight and data for future reference.  However, South and Latin America as a whole has a very fast increasing HIV rate.  (like all countries I am sure, but one could argue they are at a faster rate than some, except maybe Brazil and Africa.)

Wouldn't a study like this be more productive and scientific if it were performed in an area where the HIV rate was sort of steady or at least had a history of slow increasing that one could use to apply to future guesstimates and predictions?  

I have been all over the world (almost) in my travels and one thing that I have noticed is that in countries where the HIV rate is highest, studies done there simply do not reflect or accumulate data well enough to be applied to other countries where the HIV rate is much lower.

In my view - and I must state it might not be right, it might not be scientific, it might not be what you agree with, it might not can be proven and supported, but it is what I have observed - the countries with the highest HIV rate are generally the countries where education is the lowest.  You find a country with a moderate to high rate of high school dropouts (and in some cases, elementary school drop outs), and you will find that HIV is very high there as well in coorelation.   (I spelled the shit out of the word wrong I know, but a bit distracted here).

Low education = low pay = low self evaluation = high "well fcuk it" mentally.  For many people in these countries, HIV is simply one more thing that is thrust upon.  (wrong in overall perspective, but that is how they see it).  They deal with poverty and harsh environments and when they contract HIV they simply shrug and say "whatever, just another day of being shit on".

So if I were going to coordinate an HIV study in countries like this, I would do so from the perspective and stand point of researching ways that prevent HIV transmissions through education and preventive measures on a level that they understand and grasp while applying to them as an individual entity and not based on a whole method determined by the averages in our country.  It's easy to say "AIDS kills, wear a condom, don't share needles".  However, you can parrot that all day long and while *we* can understand the message, others can't or simply won't because it sounds like a goody two shoes cop-out for someone that is simply unable to make the trip to the clinic for free condoms or free needles because to do so requires an all day effort of travel and wait and that results in missed wages that are so meager to begin with.

Based on the article posted, if that is true for such a tiny aspect and narrow scope of study it is a waste of money as no useful data is going to be obtained.

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Like I said, and hey Lurker, you can join me.  TA, you too.  Lets get the gov to give us 500k to study the effects of alcohol and big boobs with men in NYC.

TA - write up the grant application. 
I want in on that shit!!!!!!!

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I want in on that shit!!!!!!!

TA - bump the grant request to 750K, Tony is joining in on the study. 

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I just dont understand why these simple things are not pounded into peoples' heads daily. 

Not only for aids, but general well being. 

They are.  But from my viewpoint, the method of awareness - television ads, media materials, pamphlets, marketing campaigns, slogans, activitists, etc...   are all effective PRIOR to when the actual risk of infection develops.

What I mean, is if you get the message (whatever form and medium you care to use for an example), out there BEFORE they develop risky traits, that is when it is most effective.  This is why the target audience is (and should be) so young now days.  Drive the message home BEFORE they go out and start sharing needles and having unsafe sex.  Because once you are already indulging in those traits, the risks increases and the message effectiveness decreases - because as we were taught by our mothers it is easier to form a good habit than to break a bad one.

Think about it..  you see the TRUTH style ads on tv (which are incredibly effective) that warn us about the dangers of smoking tobacco.  Who is going to assimilate and respond better to that message in the long run?  Kids and young adults who are not smoking yet, or people who are currently smokers.  Smokers know their habit is wrong, and will tell you so, but usually become defensive when warnings and statistics are presented to them because they feel it is judgmental towards them and "preachy".

Now consider situations (HIV transmissions) that occur in environments where there are chemicals (drugs) and compounds (alcohol) that disconnect the user from reality, common sense, and clear thinking.  You got an addict sitting at home jonesing for a fix and they need it fast... if they are out of clean sterile needles do you think they are going to head down to the clinic and get new ones for free or to the pharmacy to buy them?  Not when they are crashing and need a fix.  Even if they are not crashing, they often will not head down for many reasons.  (at night and clinic closed, winter weather, rain, won't visit pharmacy to purchase because no money or because they feel paranoid the pharmacist will report them, etc...)  So they reuse old ones, or borrow their fellow addicts.  

Not just in regards to drug users either, same thing applies with people drinking.  You get horny, find a willing mate who is giving you the right vibes, you feeling good and attractive, etc...  you are not going to break the mood because you don't have a condom.  There have been studies that show single men who frequent bars and have casual sex ("party sex" or "sport sex") are more worried about the girl getting pregnant than they are about HIV being transmitted.  "Well she didn't LOOK like she had AIDS......."  (most common line utter by men AFTER they have been exposed to possible infection."

So.....  I personally feel that future HIV studies should be less on how it is transmitted (as we all know how it is) and a bit more on how to stop the transmission by those who can't (drugged out or drunk) or choose not to (just a dumbass) by delivering a message that they can understand and relate to.  

Of course, as they say... you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

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Actually, that is a great point I never really thought about. 

Getting to these people when they are young and impressionable will probably yield a lot better results than trying to persuade adults who are already busted in the head.

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Seriously, I am wondering why they choose Argentina in the first place.  Sure, a study like this *could* provide insight and data for future reference.  However, South and Latin America as a whole has a very fast increasing HIV rate.  (like all countries I am sure, but one could argue they are at a faster rate than some, except maybe Brazil and Africa.)

Wouldn't a study like this be more productive and scientific if it were performed in an area where the HIV rate was sort of steady or at least had a history of slow increasing that one could use to apply to future guesstimates and predictions?  

I have been all over the world (almost) in my travels and one thing that I have noticed is that in countries where the HIV rate is highest, studies done there simply do not reflect or accumulate data well enough to be applied to other countries where the HIV rate is much lower.

In my view - and I must state it might not be right, it might not be scientific, it might not be what you agree with, it might not can be proven and supported, but it is what I have observed - the countries with the highest HIV rate are generally the countries where education is the lowest.  You find a country with a moderate to high rate of high school dropouts (and in some cases, elementary school drop outs), and you will find that HIV is very high there as well in coorelation.   (I spelled the shit out of the word wrong I know, but a bit distracted here).

Low education = low pay = low self evaluation = high "well fcuk it" mentally.  For many people in these countries, HIV is simply one more thing that is thrust upon.  (wrong in overall perspective, but that is how they see it).  They deal with poverty and harsh environments and when they contract HIV they simply shrug and say "whatever, just another day of being shit on".

So if I were going to coordinate an HIV study in countries like this, I would do so from the perspective and stand point of researching ways that prevent HIV transmissions through education and preventive measures on a level that they understand and grasp while applying to them as an individual entity and not based on a whole method determined by the averages in our country.  It's easy to say "AIDS kills, wear a condom, don't share needles".  However, you can parrot that all day long and while *we* can understand the message, others can't or simply won't because it sounds like a goody two shoes cop-out for someone that is simply unable to make the trip to the clinic for free condoms or free needles because to do so requires an all day effort of travel and wait and that results in missed wages that are so meager to begin with.

Based on the article posted, if that is true for such a tiny aspect and narrow scope of study it is a waste of money as no useful data is going to be obtained.
They didn`t choose Argentina for that study.  That article is false. 

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They didn`t choose Argentina for that study.  That article is false. 

Well thank goodness for that because it made no sense at all.

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Well thank goodness for that because it made no sense at all.

I quoted from TA's own post.  It is not false.  It is just another wasteful embarassment to his whole philosophy. 

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Actually, that is a great point I never really thought about. 

Getting to these people when they are young and impressionable will probably yield a lot better results than trying to persuade adults who are already busted in the head.

My career is in the health field, that in addition to all the volunteer hours and fund raising efforts I do in regards to HIV, gives me an insight where I can truthfully tell you that methods attempting target an audience and get them to STOP or CHANGE a lifestyle that carries a high risk for potential HIV exposure is only a fraction as successful as the campaigns geared towards a target audience that has not developed those traits (or addictions) yet.