Anti-white workplace brainwashing.

[kcballer]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278863.msg3948572#msg3948572

Ho ho, dear me, Steve Sailor DESTROYING Gladwell here:

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/081221_malcolm.htm

Now add that to the fact that Lynn's "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" is the MOST thorough work available correlating IQ with GDP, and you see the post by Al Doggity as the uninformed piece of crap it is.

Gladwell? LOL, Salior takes him apart!!

Great closing line:

...which is, as I posted yesterday, just what the Danes - and many across Europe - have realized.

Haha i'm not reading anything from vdare some nonsense that would be. You can't refute the FACTS presented by Gladwell drawn from the studies of James Flynn though can you? Face it you're ideas are as backward as your hometown.   

[andreisdaman]

What like the facts as they are, yes ??

ya know..I knew this guy would show up sooner or later..pillowbiter is drawn to these types of threads like flies to shit....now this thread is going to go on for another 10 pages.....

[kcballer]

ya know..I knew this guy would show up sooner or later..pillowbiter is drawn to these types of threads like flies to shit....now this thread is going to go on for another 10 pages.....

watch out pillow biter is quite the keyboard warrior! He'll now post something about his knife or gun and him using it to dismember you like he does in world of warcraft or call of duty.

[Matt C]

Haha i'm not reading anything from vdare some nonsense that would be. You can't refute the FACTS presented by Gladwell drawn from the studies of James Flynn though can you? Face it you're ideas are as backward as your hometown.   

Indeed, Gladwell’s climactic depiction of the more just society he envisions is quite terrifying. In the grand summation of his book’s argument, he writes:

"We look at the young Bill Gates and marvel that our world allowed that thirteen-year-old to become a fabulously successful entrepreneur. But that’s the wrong lesson. Our world only allowed one thirteen-year-old unlimited access to a time-sharing terminal in 1968. If a million teenagers had been given the same opportunity, how many more Microsofts would we have today?" [p. 268]

Let a million monopolies bloom!

The great thing about Gladwell is that he’s so lacking in critical thinking skills that he just blurts out the underlying assumptions of today’s conventional wisdom, stating its stupidities in their Platonic form. To Gladwell, the long, laborious, and expensive development of the computer isn’t a great accomplishment of Western civilization for which posterity should be grateful. No, it’s a civil rights issue. See, back in 1968, "our world" hadn’t "allowed" enough teenagers—especially not enough black and Mexican ones, to use state-of-the-art time-sharing computers.

[pillowtalk]

watch out pillow biter is quite the keyboard warrior! He'll now post something about his knife or gun and him using it to dismember you like he does in world of warcraft or call of duty.

Some-one has been getting a handle on me, are you my shrinks gimmick ??

[andreisdaman]

So I should look at my mentally disabled friend Andrzej on an "individual basis" too, or should I assume that as a result of his mental disability he cannot be expected to function in organized society the way others can and accommodate accordingly?

Would it be beneficial to anyone to persist in a lie that he is equal to a person of average intelligence when he obviously is not?

your attitude in your posat about your disabled friend is an example of your attitude....no one is saying that you should elevate your disabled friend above all others with special privileges and stuff......just treat him fairly...don't discriminate against him due to your own perceived inadequacies that you feel he has....treat him fairly and don't set up barriers which prevent him from achieving his goals in life..as was done with blacks

[andreisdaman]

watch out pillow biter is quite the keyboard warrior! He'll now post something about his knife or gun and him using it to dismember you like he does in world of warcraft or call of duty.

Awesome post!!!!..hahahahahah..you know him well!!!

[Matt C]

your attitude in your posat about your disabled friend is an example of your attitude....no one is saying that you should elevate your disabled friend above all others with special privileges and stuff......just treat him fairly...don't discriminate against him due to your own perceived inadequacies that you feel he has....treat him fairly and don't set up barriers which prevent him from achieving his goals in life..as was done with blacks

It's DANGEROUS to assume that Zimbabweans are intellectually equivalent to other racial groups when 1 in 2 of them have IQs low enough to qualify as mentally retarded by western standards.  Do you think it is a good thing to pretend they are equal and then have to deal with the consequences of that when it manifests that they are not?

[pillowtalk]

ya know..I knew this guy would show up sooner or later..pillowbiter is drawn to these types of threads like flies to shit....now this thread is going to go on for another 10 pages.....

You have still to give me an adequate definition of the racism - YOU - see in your world on a daily basis.
Let us for now, leave mirrors out of it.
Just what you see on a daily basis.

& you are right, I have a good physique - but talking BB'ing bores the crap out of me !!
How many IU's of slin per gm of Glucose ?? should I do my 'GH' post work out or before bed - blah blah - yadda yadda - etc...........
Jaw breaking YAWN.

Where else am I going to go ?? you don;t love me  

[Al Doggity]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278863.msg3948572#msg3948572

Ho ho, dear me, Steve Sailor DESTROYING Gladwell here:

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/081221_malcolm.htm

Now add that to the fact that Lynn's "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" is the MOST thorough work available correlating IQ with GDP, and you see the post by Al Doggity as the uninformed piece of crap it is.

Gladwell? LOL, Salior takes him apart!!

Great closing line:

...which is, as I posted yesterday, just what the Danes - and many across Europe - have realized.

Except for the fact that he doesn't "take Gladwell apart"... he creates a very weak straw man argument and then attempt to take that apart. Most of the examples he uses are completely misrepresented, including the origin of MS-Dos and Bill Gates involvement.

The point of Gladwell's book is not that IQ doesn't matter, but that when looked at analytically, there are very few actual prodigies. Most people who develop a renowned skillset spend a certain amount of time to mastering those skills. Nothing in that Vdare article does a good job of contradicting that point. The author of the piece misstates history and Gladwell's positions and still does a poor job of making the book seem foolish.

[Al Doggity]

See, back in 1968, "our world" hadn’t "allowed" enough teenagers—especially not enough black and Mexican ones, to use state-of-the-art time-sharing computers.

This quote from you shows just how misleading that article is. Gladwell makes  no such assertion. The book isn't  about race to any great extent.

[garebear]

I'm white. I am one person and responsible only for my own actions. If you want to group me in with other whites who are racist, then just who is it who is being prejudice?

[Option D]

That is my job, remember ??
Do you even own a Gun ??

Matt-C only - EVER - get's banned from here when people run out of counter debate.

Shut up bitch

[Matt C]

Haha i'm not reading anything from vdare some nonsense that would be. You can't refute the FACTS presented by Gladwell drawn from the studies of James Flynn though can you? Face it you're ideas are as backward as your hometown.   

You obviously have a sub-100 IQ.  Quite possibly, sub-85.

Gladwell offers nothing other than whimsy and supposition; his ideas are easily countered and revealed for the comedy they are - as they have indeed been by Steve Sailor.

Firstly, we can offer SEVERAL explosive analogies that destroy Gladwell, one of which is to point out the absurdity of Gladwell's "rice picking" theory wherein we highlight Gladwell's GLARING INABILITY to point toward African farming cultures that utilize black female African workers, and could thus be used - if we apply Gladwell's comical logic - to explain the workshy attitude of many black men in the US.  Gladwell does NOT take his "logic" to their logical conclusions.  He prefers instead to employ them selectively.

Let us not even get onto the Chinese whom do not have ancestry that can be traced back to those whom worked in the rice fields; never mind the other Asian cultures with a rich history of rice picking but no concomitant proficiency in math, doh!!

Gladwell, hasn't really thought his script through, then again, its not steeped in critical thought, but mere shallow whimsy.

Oh and, by the way; Gladwell has written NOTHING that can compare to the tome "IQ & the Wealth of Nations" by Messrs Lynn and Vanhanen, a written work that - MORE THAN ANY SOCIOLOGIST COULD DREAM OF - absolutely correlates IQ and GDP.

Not that you are a fuckwit or anything, eh?

[Deicide]

You obviously have a sub-100 IQ.  Quite possibly, sub-85.

Gladwell offers nothing other than whimsy and supposition; his ideas are easily countered and revealed for the comedy they are - as they have indeed been by Steve Sailor.

Firstly, we can offer SEVERAL explosive analogies that destroy Gladwell, one of which is to point out the absurdity of Gladwell's "rice picking" theory wherein we highlight Gladwell's GLARING INABILITY to point toward African farming cultures that utilize black female African workers, and could thus be used - if we apply Gladwell's comical logic - to explain the workshy attitude of many black men in the US.  Gladwell does NOT take his "logic" to their logical conclusions.  He prefers instead to employ them selectively.

Let us not even get onto the Chinese whom do not have ancestry that can be traced back to those whom worked in the rice fields; never mind the other Asian cultures with a rich history of rice picking but no concomitant proficiency in math, doh!!

Gladwell, hasn't really thought his script through, then again, its not steeped in critical thought, but mere shallow whimsy.

Oh and, by the way; Gladwell has written NOTHING that can compare to the tome "IQ & the Wealth of Nations" by Messrs Lynn and Vanhanen, a written work that - MORE THAN ANY SOCIOLOGIST COULD DREAM OF - absolutely correlates IQ and GDP.

Not that you are a fuckwit or anything, eh?

Wow...

[andreisdaman]

It's DANGEROUS to assume that Zimbabweans are intellectually equivalent to other racial groups when 1 in 2 of them have IQs low enough to qualify as mentally retarded by western standards.  Do you think it is a good thing to pretend they are equal and then have to deal with the consequences of that when it manifests that they are not?

well, first off, you did not address my retort directly about your disabled friend..instead you go back to talking about Zimbabwe, a country that hasn't been around that long and hasn't had the chance to embrace the democratic way of doing things..I have already denounced Mugabe as a thug which is more of a concession than you have made since you have not acknowledged anyone to be right about anything except yourself....

and how can you even compare the zimbabweans to others in terms of IQ when the vast number of them live in poverty and we all know that IQ correlates with wealth??..come on....stop your stupid racist posturing and at least argue these points fairly...... If you take the whites in Appalachia and compare them to the whites on Park Avenue in NY city, who is going to have the highest IQ??...comparing the citizens of Zimbabwe to others in terms of IQ is a big stretch.....

Most in that country are just trying to survive and live day to day.....as they have lived for hundreds of years.....thats how they chose to live...should we look down on them for that?....I'm not saying they are the equal to others intellectually....but they deserve to be treated fairly as human beings and not discriminated against or exploited or placed in a system created to permanently keep a large number of them from ever being able to succeed...the Rhodesian whites did that to keep them subservient.....and you argue that rape, murder, imprisonment, confiscation of lands, and stealing their natural resources justify keeping them well-fed???...what did they eat for the thousands of years before whites arrived there???...it wasn't as if whites showed up and now everyone was well-fed and better off.

but I realize that arguing with you is pointless and no matter what facts are presented to you that counter your arguments you still won't get it...because you simply don't want to....fact.

[Deicide]

You obviously have a sub-100 IQ.  Quite possibly, sub-85.

Gladwell offers nothing other than whimsy and supposition; his ideas are easily countered and revealed for the comedy they are - as they have indeed been by Steve Sailor.

Firstly, we can offer SEVERAL explosive analogies that destroy Gladwell, one of which is to point out the absurdity of Gladwell's "rice picking" theory wherein we highlight Gladwell's GLARING INABILITY to point toward African farming cultures that utilize black female African workers, and could thus be used - if we apply Gladwell's comical logic - to explain the workshy attitude of many black men in the US.  Gladwell does NOT take his "logic" to their logical conclusions.  He prefers instead to employ them selectively.

Let us not even get onto the Chinese whom do not have ancestry that can be traced back to those whom worked in the rice fields; never mind the other Asian cultures with a rich history of rice picking but no concomitant proficiency in math, doh!!

Gladwell, hasn't really thought his script through, then again, its not steeped in critical thought, but mere shallow whimsy.

Oh and, by the way; Gladwell has written NOTHING that can compare to the tome "IQ & the Wealth of Nations" by Messrs Lynn and Vanhanen, a written work that - MORE THAN ANY SOCIOLOGIST COULD DREAM OF - absolutely correlates IQ and GDP.

Not that you are a fuckwit or anything, eh?

[Deicide]

You obviously have a sub-100 IQ.  Quite possibly, sub-85.

Gladwell offers nothing other than whimsy and supposition; his ideas are easily countered and revealed for the comedy they are - as they have indeed been by Steve Sailor.

Firstly, we can offer SEVERAL explosive analogies that destroy Gladwell, one of which is to point out the absurdity of Gladwell's "rice picking" theory wherein we highlight Gladwell's GLARING INABILITY to point toward African farming cultures that utilize black female African workers, and could thus be used - if we apply Gladwell's comical logic - to explain the workshy attitude of many black men in the US.  Gladwell does NOT take his "logic" to their logical conclusions.  He prefers instead to employ them selectively.

Let us not even get onto the Chinese whom do not have ancestry that can be traced back to those whom worked in the rice fields; never mind the other Asian cultures with a rich history of rice picking but no concomitant proficiency in math, doh!!

Gladwell, hasn't really thought his script through, then again, its not steeped in critical thought, but mere shallow whimsy.

Oh and, by the way; Gladwell has written NOTHING that can compare to the tome "IQ & the Wealth of Nations" by Messrs Lynn and Vanhanen, a written work that - MORE THAN ANY SOCIOLOGIST COULD DREAM OF - absolutely correlates IQ and GDP.

Not that you are a fuckwit or anything, eh?

[Deicide]

You obviously have a sub-100 IQ.  Quite possibly, sub-85.

Gladwell offers nothing other than whimsy and supposition; his ideas are easily countered and revealed for the comedy they are - as they have indeed been by Steve Sailor.

Firstly, we can offer SEVERAL explosive analogies that destroy Gladwell, one of which is to point out the absurdity of Gladwell's "rice picking" theory wherein we highlight Gladwell's GLARING INABILITY to point toward African farming cultures that utilize black female African workers, and could thus be used - if we apply Gladwell's comical logic - to explain the workshy attitude of many black men in the US.  Gladwell does NOT take his "logic" to their logical conclusions.  He prefers instead to employ them selectively.

Let us not even get onto the Chinese whom do not have ancestry that can be traced back to those whom worked in the rice fields; never mind the other Asian cultures with a rich history of rice picking but no concomitant proficiency in math, doh!!

Gladwell, hasn't really thought his script through, then again, its not steeped in critical thought, but mere shallow whimsy.

Oh and, by the way; Gladwell has written NOTHING that can compare to the tome "IQ & the Wealth of Nations" by Messrs Lynn and Vanhanen, a written work that - MORE THAN ANY SOCIOLOGIST COULD DREAM OF - absolutely correlates IQ and GDP.

Not that you are a fuckwit or anything, eh?

[andreisdaman]

You have still to give me an adequate definition of the racism - YOU - see in your world on a daily basis.
Let us for now, leave mirrors out of it.
Just what you see on a daily basis.

& you are right, I have a good physique - but talking BB'ing bores the crap out of me !!
How many IU's of slin per gm of Glucose ?? should I do my 'GH' post work out or before bed - blah blah - yadda yadda - etc...........
Jaw breaking YAWN.

Where else am I going to go ?? you don;t love me  

you know...you and I have been chasing each other all over getbig through various threads the past few weeks arguing about race and making fun of each other...I would like to think it's not personal and I have no problem acknowledging positive things about you....

you DO have a very good physique, one that I wish I had and your wife is stunningly beautiful, which I wish I had as well.....

and I have to admit that even though I disagree with you all of the time, you have provided some research, though I feel it is often inaccurate, to back up your arguments... I haven't done that as well as you have...

but you need to learn to tone down the racial slurs and name-calling....you are bright and you have something to contribute but it gets lost in all the racial calling out that you do.....

I am beginning to suspect that while you are definitely hostile to blacks, that the over-the-top racial stuff you do may be a way of just trying to annoy black people on here for laughs...because as you stated you are bored...

I will admit however that talking about bodybuilding can get somewhat boring after a while

[Al Doggity]

You obviously have a sub-100 IQ.  Quite possibly, sub-85.

Gladwell offers nothing other than whimsy and supposition; his ideas are easily countered and revealed for the comedy they are - as they have indeed been by Steve Sailor.

Firstly, we can offer SEVERAL explosive analogies that destroy Gladwell, one of which is to point out the absurdity of Gladwell's "rice picking" theory wherein we highlight Gladwell's GLARING INABILITY to point toward African farming cultures that utilize black female African workers, and could thus be used - if we apply Gladwell's comical logic - to explain the workshy attitude of many black men in the US.  Gladwell does NOT take his "logic" to their logical conclusions.  He prefers instead to employ them selectively.

Let us not even get onto the Chinese whom do not have ancestry that can be traced back to those whom worked in the rice fields; never mind the other Asian cultures with a rich history of rice picking but no concomitant proficiency in math, doh!!

Gladwell, hasn't really thought his script through, then again, its not steeped in critical thought, but mere shallow whimsy.

Oh and, by the way; Gladwell has written NOTHING that can compare to the tome "IQ & the Wealth of Nations" by Messrs Lynn and Vanhanen, a written work that - MORE THAN ANY SOCIOLOGIST COULD DREAM OF - absolutely correlates IQ and GDP.

Not that you are a fuckwit or anything, eh?

First of all, "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" is hardly unassailable. I"ve never read it, but I just took a look at it's wikipedia page and it's sort of a mess. National averages weren't available for nearly half the countries and several of the averages were pulled from data decades apart. Many of the averages were pulled from data on young children and many of the averages were pulled from different types of tests. I could go on and on, but basically, they had an idea and they manipulated the data to support it. This book is not considered the be all, end all by sociologists, by any means.

Secondly, once again, you are using a complete misrepresentation of the book to make a point. I'm not even going to point out that the quote you pulled is completely wrong. I will point out that Gladwell's book is about how specific events in specific places equal specific results. Your point remains pointless.

[Deicide]

[Stormspirit]

she's pretty hot

[Stormspirit]

matt c=21st century charlamagne

that looks like fucking shit.

[Stormspirit]

I don't believe in multiculturalism; there are huge cultural differences and to pretend otherwise is just plain silly, but people who have grown up in a Western-type environment have a lot in common regardless of race. My thesis is that intellectual history and the common agreement on those intellectual issues is more important than other issues. That forms the basis of cultural difference when there is any, much greater than racial. For example, I live in S.Korea for over two years and I can tell you that people only used to the West will be shocked, more interestingly, I met Korean Americans who had grown up in the USA and they were shocked, despite being genetically identical to the native Koreans.

did you have sex with any korean women?