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There is this Brazilian guy I am on friendly terms with here, we'll get a coffee every now and then but every couple of weeks he sends me bizarre preaching e-mails...this latest one is the scariest one so far and then when I see him again...he never mentions it...this one scares the shit out of me...should I tell him to stop next time I see him?

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Dan,
I would be too slow and, honestly, brave enough to tell your the truth. Also
like this it will be clearer to you. Forgive the error in English. 
I also beg you, yes, I beg you to read all this.
I need to transmit this message to you because your life for all
eternity depends on this. It just does, and it does help do deny it or
just disagree with it. It was, is and will be the truth.
Now my friend I do care if you like me for saying this or not, but if
I am forgiven, saved and loved I can not act unlovely even though that might
cost me your disdain or indifference.
I first want to ask you something:
Do you think you are good person?
After you answer it.
Consider other question.
Have you ever lied? Even a little lie?
Have you ever stolen? Not even a littler and small thing just once?
Have you ever committed an adultery? Not even looking to a women with lust?
Well, if you are a human being like me you answered yes to all those questions.   
And how do you call a person who tell lies? Liar isn’t it?
And someone who steals something? A thief, isn’t it?
And how about who commits adultery? An adulterous.

Daniel, my dear, as you have done all this thing you have not just broken any law, or just a moral
law. You broke the law of the Living God. All of them.
Look what God says:
Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments
1 And God spoke all these words:
 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
 3 "You shall have no other gods before me.
 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.
 7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
  13 "You shall not murder.
 14 "You shall not commit adultery.
 15 "You shall not steal.
 16 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
 17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."
 
About lies: Proverbs 6 - There are six things the LORD hates,       seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes,       a lying tongue, […]       
 What Jesus Christ saib about:
Murder 21"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' 22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
 23"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
 25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
Adultery 27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

And this is the destiny (verse 8 specifically) of those (like you and me)who broke the law of the Almighty God:

Revelation 21

The New Jerusalem

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
 5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

 6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

And there is no one just, righteous to justify himself before the Lord. No one.
It is like staying in front of the judge and saying: “Well, I recognize I have done bad things, but you know, I am human” or
“Well, I do not believe you Judge”.

The fact is that you will face Him, let me assure you that, and I might not fear now, but you will fear Him.

But Dan, there is hope. Not because your are good, just, not even because you deserve it, but because .... let me show in scripture:

Here is a passage centuries before Jesus Christ came, and it talked about him! Look:
Isaiah 53 (New King James Version)

Isaiah 53

1 Who has believed our report?
      And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
       2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
      And as a root out of dry ground.
      He has no form or comeliness;
      And when we see Him,
      There is no beauty that we should desire Him.
       3 He is despised and rejected by men,
      A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
      And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
      He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
       4 Surely He has borne our griefs
      And carried our sorrows;
      Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
      Smitten by God, and afflicted.
       5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
      He was bruised for our iniquities;
      The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
      And by His stripes we are healed.
       6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
      We have turned, every one, to his own way;
      And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
       7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
      Yet He opened not His mouth;
      He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
      And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
      So He opened not His mouth.
Look verses:
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;
      He has put Him to grief.
      When You make His soul an offering for sin,
      He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
      And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.
       11 He shall see the labor of His soul,and be satisfied
      By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
      For He shall bear their iniquities.
You know what this all about....man, this about God himself coming in flesh, that is, Jesus Christ
taking all you sins, my sins, all these things that are abomination to God, because he is holy and  just
and good, upon himself in that cross! Then God executed the punishment that is for you on His Holy and
Begotten Son.
He it is John 3:16 (New King James Version):
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not
perish but have everlasting life.

Now then Dear Dan...Repent, yes, repent of all your sins and believe in Jesus who paid the full price for your sins!

I still beg you to listen to 2 videos, they are both 20 minutes long. Here are the links.

http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/resources/video/188

the second:

http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/resources/video/188

There is second, longer, but worthy listening to:
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I couldn’t have not told you the truth my dear friend.
Forgive me for not telling you this in person. I though this would be clearer and I also did have the courage, unfortunately.
Repent and Believe! 
I hate the State.

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 01:33:51 AM »
Tell him that Jeezus watches him masturbate......that usually shuts them up.
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 01:34:44 AM »
I hope Jesus isn't as boring as these guys make him out to be.

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 01:38:41 AM »
Tell him Jesus plays in your band and you all are real close, so he better start practicing his instrument other than skin flute.

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 01:58:47 AM »
Tell him that Jeezus wants him to find a new hobby....
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 02:06:12 AM »
Hand him a gun, with one bullet. Tell him that Jeezus wants him to shoot himself in the head, so that he can join him in his kingdom sooner.
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2009, 02:12:14 AM »
Religious = Maximum self insecurity

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2009, 02:15:50 AM »
Religious = Maximum self insecurity

Among other things...


Imagine lacking the ability to hold your self accountable for your actions? Imagine not being able to do the right thing, unless it is met with the approval of an invisible man in the sky? Imagine  being so worried about your inevitable death, to the point where you have to make up a fairy tail, about a better place (after expiration)? 
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2009, 02:37:14 AM »
Among other things...


Imagine lacking the ability to hold your self accountable for your actions? Imagine not being able to do the right thing, unless it is met with the approval of an invisible man in the sky? Imagine  being so worried about your inevitable death, to the point where you have to make up a fairy tail, about a better place (after expiration)? 
Be careful with this word.
Who decide the right thing? Does absolute right thing exist?
That right thing is right eternaty?

During your pointing out their being controled,already there is a trap of controle in our stereotype(who made it??). ;D

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2009, 02:45:43 AM »
Be careful with this word.
Who decide the right thing? Does absolute right thing exist?
That right thing is right eternaty?

During your pointing out their being controled,already there is a trap of controle in our stereotype(who made it??). ;D
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 08:05:21 AM »
Decide, I'm a Christian, but even I wouldn't be comfortable with that approach.
You don't evangelize thru emails imo. If the two of you were able to build a relationship
where you could openly disucss your views on faith and why you believe them is one
thing, but the fact he wasn't willing to have a face to face with you over it shows
some flaws in his character.  His heart may have been in the right place, but he may
have added more offense than necessary.  The Gospel is offensive enough.  Christians do
well not to add to that offense with bad tactics.

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 08:07:43 AM »
Well, I’ve often thought that the Bible should have a disclaimer
at the front saying, “This is fiction.” I mean,
walking on water? I mean, it takes an act of faith.

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 08:10:01 AM »
looks like he just wants to sleep with you.

jesus was a man with a crucifix

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2009, 08:12:31 AM »
The biblical account of Noah’s Ark and the Flood is perhaps
the most implausible story for fundamentalists to
defend. Where, for example, while loading his ark, did
Noah find penguins and polar bears in Palestine?

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 08:14:33 AM »
Be careful with this word.
Who decide the right thing? Does absolute right thing exist?
That right thing is right eternaty?

During your pointing out their being controled,already there is a trap of controle in our stereotype(who made it??). ;D

Perhaps the right thing is in fact decided by humans by what they see fit, no one really claimed to know the universal moral truth as there is none. Besides religious people that is.

But I do think there is a right and wrong and that it's decided by humans, I don't discredit whats "right" just because there is no almighty power endorsing it.
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 08:15:57 AM »
The biblical account of Noah’s Ark and the Flood is perhaps
the most implausible story for fundamentalists to
defend. Where, for example, while loading his ark, did
Noah find penguins and polar bears in Palestine?

Or the Palin special; where did Noah find the dinosaurs?  :D
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 08:48:37 AM »
WOW...your buddy is a nutbar.... I'd be screening the phone next time he calls to go out for coffee.

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 08:56:52 AM »
Perhaps the right thing is in fact decided by humans by what they see fit, no one really claimed to know the universal moral truth as there is none. Besides religious people that is.

But I do think there is a right and wrong and that it's decided by humans, I don't discredit whats "right" just because there is no almighty power endorsing it.
Yes. It is decided by human.
But human itself is a part of universe and also represent whole universe itself in its character, always altering their style and its impossible to conclete right and wrong.
if there is a defenite way of clear right and wrong, the controversy of ideology like Capitalism or comunism wouldnt happen and there must havent been war.

In spite of comunism and capitalism are expressing the state of society and not a defenite ideology....

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 09:03:29 AM »
Yes. It is decided by human.
But human itself is a part of universe and also represent whole universe itself in its character, always altering their style and its impossible to conclete right and wrong.
if there is a defenite way of clear right and wrong, the controversy of ideology like Capitalism or comunism wouldnt happen and there must havent been war.

In spite of comunism and capitalism are expressing the state of society and not a defenite ideology....

Yes we're on the same page for once! lol
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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2009, 06:45:31 AM »
I had a surprise evangelism one day partying....few months ago... we had been going all night, bunch of friends at my place hanging out watching movies...we were all coked up and drinking...then one of our new buddies (new to the group) went off on a 3 hour evangelical mission about how in a year or two the world is going to end and we have to pick if we're gonna be on god's side or against him. He went off the deep eend and started rambling on for about 3 hours  about the holy war that will ensue and the angels fighting the devils and so on....We (the normal guys) were all just in a state of disbelief, considerinf it was about 9 am, and we hadn't slept yet, coke was wearing off and this guy was just killing it....freaky experience...no one wanted to tell the guy to shut up cause he was HUGE and JACKED and friends with a lot of bikers...man, I couldn't wait for him to leave...complete buzzkill.

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Re: Why evangelicals are ultimately too annoying to have as friends...
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