Ah crap, GOP governor to be outed....

[240 is Back]

I kinda agree with this, the reps need to be more tolerant on certain issues problem is when you give an inch the dems will take a mile so i do understand why but still...

ALSO 240 you really need to stop quoting that ignorant ass poll from the washington post via MSNBC ive seen the polls and dems and reps are losing ppl who align themselves with each party at the same rate, guess where they are going? INDEPENDENT.

nobody's denying they're going to ind.

Inependents have been voting dem lately, in case ya haven't noticed

[240 is Back]

I kinda agree with this, the reps need to be more tolerant on certain issues problem is when you give an inch the dems will take a mile so i do understand why but still...

Nah, it's about them attacking their own repub party members when they don't "fall into line" and vote 100% with the party. 

Spector was going to lose the repub primary - being forced out by the very small repub voting primary base - because he backed the stim bill.

For his state (Penn) - they NEED that damn stim money, and the man is 80 years old with 30+ years in the senate - he knows his shit a lot more than some rookie senator.  He KNEW he needed that stim for the people of Penn, and voted accordingly. 

he voted FOR HIS CONSTITUENTS and the party ostracized him for not voting blindly against obammers.

Ridge is 100% right.  he recognizes the party is dying because people are all too happy to escort out moderates.   hey, guess what, most ppl are moderates.

[BM OUT]

You know, Tom Ridge was on MSNBC last night talking about the need for repubs to STOP tossing out every "moderate" repub who has a few liberal positions.  He said that is what is destroying the party.  The base keeps labeling, judging, and rejecting those Repubs who take even a single position outside of the normal, labeling them as unpatriotic, etc.

I think he might be right. 

I see people here saying "Screw Crist, screw arnold" because these governors are in near-bankrupt states who NEED handouts (macro welfare) to survive.  And when Crist and Arnold jump parties to run for Senate, you'll say "good riddance".  And soon, you'll have 15% of Americans claiming to be republicans. 

You're losing your party because of your intolerance.  Or is Tom Ridge a "lib" for pointing this out?

WRONG!!!!THE REASON REPUBLICANS ARE LOOSING IS BECAUSE OF LIBS!!!!Did the democrats "come to the middle" when they were on the verge of distinction?No,they went way left,nominating an out and out radical leftist.NO ONE will support wishy washy people.Specter voted for the stimulous package.That package goes against EVERY single republican principle there is.

Arnold is an enviro nut.His policies and the policies of the left in that state have destroyed the state.McCAIN IS FOR CAP AND TRADE,FOR OPEN BORDERS,AGAINST TAX CUTS,the guy stands for everything republicans stand against.

Once again,when republicans run right wingers,they win.When they run leftists or those pretending to be republicans they loose.We just ran the biggest moderate/lib ever.He got smashed.Why?He couldnt make on distinction against Obama.Run a conservative thats FOR small government,for massive tax cuts,against unchecked immigration, etc.They win.

[tonymctones]

nobody's denying they're going to ind.

Inependents have been voting dem lately, in case ya haven't noticed

LOL you are only pointing out that reps are losing ppl not that dems are losing ppl at the same rate...LOL most moderates are still right leaning in case you havent noticed

[240 is Back]

WRONG!!!!THE REASON REPUBLICANS ARE LOOSING IS BECAUSE OF LIBS!!!!Did the democrats "come to the middle" when they were on the verge of distinction?No,they went way left,nominating an out and out radical leftist.NO ONE will support wishy washy people.Specter voted for the stimulous package.That package goes against EVERY single republican principle there is.

Arnold is an enviro nut.His policies and the policies of the left in that state have destroyed the state.McCAIN IS FOR CAP AND TRADE,FOR OPEN BORDERS,AGAINST TAX CUTS,the guy stands for everything republicans stand against.

Once again,when republicans run right wingers,they win.When they run leftists or those pretending to be republicans they loose.We just ran the biggest moderate/lib ever.He got smashed.Why?He couldnt make on distinction against Obama.Run a conservative thats FOR small government,for massive tax cuts,against unchecked immigration, etc.They win.

this is precisely the kind of thinking that ridge is trying to stop.

But hey, ridge must be just another lib, huh?  

[Benny B]

LOL you are only pointing out that reps are losing ppl not that dems are losing ppl at the same rate...LOL most moderates are still right leaning in case you havent noticed

Riiiiiight...that's why you have a 60/40 Dem senate and a Democrat president who won 365 electoral votes.

I love these dumb ass repubes.   

[240 is Back]

LOL you are only pointing out that reps are losing ppl not that dems are losing ppl at the same rate...LOL most moderates are still right leaning in case you havent noticed

show me a poll that say this.  I'm absolutely SURE that fox has run at least one.


PS  you won't

[tonymctones]

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/party-id.php 

[240 is Back]

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/party-id.php 

that "R" line at the bottom seems to be sinking a tad bit faster and more than the Dem line at the top.

hahaha self-owned!!!

[tonymctones]

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/party-id.php 

come on biggity biggity bump, benny "butt plug" blanco, 240 the king of polls

show me a poll that say this.  I'm absolutely SURE that fox has run at least one.


PS  you won't

PS I did  

[240 is Back]

come on biggity biggity bump, benny "butt plug" blanco, 240 the king of polls
PS I did  

self-owned twice, meltdown responding waiting for a response.

hahahaha

[tonymctones]

that "R" line at the bottom seems to be sinking a tad bit faster and more than the Dem line at the top.

hahaha self-owned!!!

hahaha lol the dems line started sinking before the rep line LOL hahahahhaha find refuge in your idiocy thats fine fact of the matter is MSNBC left out that the dems are losing ppl as well putrid one party fools such as yourself should be done away with.

[240 is Back]

hahaha lol the dems line started sinking before the rep line LOL hahahahhaha find refuge in your idiocy thats fine fact of the matter is MSNBC left out that the dems are losing ppl as well putrid one party fools such as yourself should be done away with.

triple self-owning.  you took the bait.

Look at the numbers since the election

Repubs have lost TRIPLE the amount of people claiming to be in their party since the election

Take the afternoon off, Tony.  Numbers and you weren't meant to be together.

[Eyeball Chambers]

What would happen to the Republican party if they started following people like Ron Paul? 

[240 is Back]

putrid one party fools such as yourself should be done away with.

death threat meltdown.  hahahahahahah

[tonymctones]

triple self-owning.  you took the bait.

Look at the numbers since the election

Repubs have lost TRIPLE the amount of people claiming to be in their party since the election

Take the afternoon off, Tony.  Numbers and you weren't meant to be together.

LOL and dems have lost ppl as well why is that with the savior in office? of course the reps have lost ppl the lost the election brainchild what did you expect to happen that more ppl would identify as them?  

FACT BOTH PARTIES ARE LOSING MEMBERS
FAcT INDEPENDENTS ARE GROWING
FACT THE MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS IN THIS COUNTRY LEAN RIGHT

LOL doesnt mean their values have changed or their opinions on things I dont care what you are dem or rep or independent as long as you represent what i believe...

LOL Bro you are the last one to give advice on numbers/polls/economy hahah and you have an mba  

[tonymctones]

What would happen to the Republican party if they started following people like Ron Paul? 

In all honesty RPF i dont think ron paul would win the presidency im not saying i wouldnt like him to but he is out there on certain issues man im not saying he is wrong but i dont think he would appeal to main stream america to be honest.

[240 is Back]

LOL and dems have lost ppl as well why is that with the savior in office? of course the reps have lost ppl the lost the election brainchild what did you expect to happen that more ppl would identify as them?  

FACT BOTH PARTIES ARE LOSING MEMBERS
FAcT INDEPENDENTS ARE GROWING
FACT THE MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS IN THIS COUNTRY LEAN RIGHT

LOL doesnt mean their values have changed or their opinions on things I dont care what you are dem or rep or independent as long as you represent what i believe...

LOL Bro you are the last one to give advice on numbers/polls/economy hahah and you have an mba  

Using your evidence, I just demonstrated the fact that since the election, Republicans have lost TRIPLE the number of party member claimants than Dems.

Do you agree or disagree?

[240 is Back]

FACT BOTH PARTIES ARE LOSING MEMBERS
FAcT INDEPENDENTS ARE GROWING
FACT THE MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS IN THIS COUNTRY LEAN RIGHT

3/4 of the independents are from the repub party.
1/4 of the independents are from the dem party.

YOUR evidence proved this.  That's all.  Ridge wants the party to quit demonizing everyone who isn't a far-right yes-man.  He's got a point.  Another 6 months of this ratio and the repubs won't recover soon...

[SAMSON123]

The movie should be WHO IS NOT GAY IN WASHINGTON....now you can see why the decisions being made in Washington ae so anti-child, anti-marriage, anti-heterosexual male, anti-BIBLE, anti-education..etc etc..

This should be frightening to you americans...but I am afraid you are not...you tolerate things until they become like TSUNAMIS and then you can't do anything about it. Your children are being forced to read MY TWO DADDIES or MOMMIES, but bring a Bible to school and you or your child will be thrown out. Call a girl a BITCH and nothing happens, say fag or lesbo and your in trouble...Now you know who is approving these laws and regulations...

[tonymctones]

Using your evidence, I just demonstrated the fact that since the election, Republicans have lost TRIPLE the number of party member claimants than Dems.

Do you agree or disagree?

Iono about triple i havent looked at the numbers ill agree the reps have lost more, my point is that the dems lost ppl as well

do you agree or disagree?

Independent lean right agree or disagree?

did the lean right before ppl started leaving the reps and dems? YES

will they lean right now? YES

LOL all this shows is that the reps and dems have lost ppl yes the reps lost more but the simple fact is those ppl who dont align themselves with reps but rather independents now are still going to vote right as opposed to left the vast majority of the time

Agree or disagree?

so who cares?

[240 is Back]

Iono about triple i havent looked at the numbers ill agree the reps have lost more, my point is that the dems lost ppl as well

do you agree or disagree?

Independent lean right agree or disagree?

did the lean right before ppl started leaving the reps and dems? YES

will they lean right now? YES

LOL all this shows is that the reps and dems have lost ppl yes the reps lost more but the simple fact is those ppl who dont align themselves with reps but rather independents now are still going to vote right as opposed to left the vast majority of the time

Agree or disagree?

so who cares?

I care.  I'm a republican - not a neoconservative.  I voted repub until I realized all the BS of WMD, 911, eocnomy breaks for wealthy, fearmongering, etc.

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the repubs run a great candidate in 2012.  Not some polarizing far-right extremist.  rather, someone to unite the country.  Obama is a far-leaning left president.  i'd love to see a moderate win.

Mccain claimed ot be a moderate - and was until 2007.  THEN, after 8 years of dissing bush on economic policy, he suddenly adopted it.  That wasn't a moderate move.

Run a moderate in 2012 and win.  or, wait until 2016 and run a far-rightish candidate and it'll be close.


Now, no more death threats, mmmkay tony?

[The True Adonis]

Figured I would Bump this in case 240 didn`t get to see the preview.

[tonymctones]

I care.  I'm a republican - not a neoconservative.  I voted repub until I realized all the BS of WMD, 911, eocnomy breaks for wealthy, fearmongering, etc.

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the repubs run a great candidate in 2012.  Not some polarizing far-right extremist.  rather, someone to unite the country.  Obama is a far-leaning left president.  i'd love to see a moderate win.

Mccain claimed ot be a moderate - and was until 2007.  THEN, after 8 years of dissing bush on economic policy, he suddenly adopted it.  That wasn't a moderate move.

Run a moderate in 2012 and win.  or, wait until 2016 and run a far-rightish candidate and it'll be close.


Now, no more death threats, mmmkay tony?

youre no conservative bro i have no repsect for ppl who dont say what they believe and believe what they say...

It wasnt a death threat nancy boy so unbunch those panties

You campaigned for a man and support a man that fear mongers on a daily basis 
you didnt think he was so far left leaning during the campaigns when you where campainging for him...now that he got in and added trillions to our debt, made bad move after another with private business you are against him huh? 

[240 is Back]

those ppl who dont align themselves with reps but rather independents now are still going to vote right as opposed to left the vast majority of the time

Agree or disagree?

Disagree.

To vote and claim R your whole life, then suddenly claim I....

I find it hard to believe most would abandon their party title and still vote party line.