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Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« on: May 07, 2009, 12:37:27 PM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907


Kind of harsh considering his doctor prescribed it for legit medical use.

It's ridiculous that his own doctor can't prescribe medication without violating MLB's drug policy.

It's a personal issue........not a steroid issue.



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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 12:39:09 PM »
Sad.

Really fucking sad.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 12:39:37 PM »
Can you elaborate on the drug please?
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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 12:49:16 PM »
Can you elaborate on the drug please?
HCG human cronic ganadotropin its to keep your LH fireing plus used during PCT to bring your natural system back..... is it considered a controlled substance DIV vause i know canseco got caught smuggling some from mexico

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 12:53:23 PM »
typo Human chorionic gonadotropin

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 01:25:26 PM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907


Kind of harsh considering his doctor prescribed it for legit medical use.

It's ridiculous that his own doctor can't prescribe medication without violating MLB's drug policy.

It's a personal issue........not a steroid issue.



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There is nothing "sad" about it.  The guy got pinched using 'roids, these athletes are told very clearly what they can and cannot use by MLB so the whole "my doctor gave it to me for a medical thing" is just so fucking retarded its an insult.

Its these high profile athletes that fuck up our ability to get real, HG gear for a good price.  If it weren't for A-Rod and Clemens and Manny, Congress wouldn't give a shit (like they didn't give a shit in the 80's), and the average guy could get good clean gear with no problems.  They fuck it up for the rest of us and once you decide to become a pro athlete you follow the fucking rules about drug use.

If someone paid me 25 million a year to stay clean, I'd stay fucking clean.  So fuck him and the rest of them.  I hope they test the shit out of them all and get steroid use out of professional sports and back into the gym for us average guys that Congress doesn't give a frog's fat ass about.  Plus Manny is a douche anyway. 

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 01:36:03 PM »


There is nothing "sad" about it.  The guy got pinched using 'roids, these athletes are told very clearly what they can and cannot use by MLB so the whole "my doctor gave it to me for a medical thing" is just so fucking retarded its an insult.

Its these high profile athletes that fuck up our ability to get real, HG gear for a good price.  If it weren't for A-Rod and Clemens and Manny, Congress wouldn't give a shit (like they didn't give a shit in the 80's), and the average guy could get good clean gear with no problems.  They fuck it up for the rest of us and once you decide to become a pro athlete you follow the fucking rules about drug use.

If someone paid me 25 million a year to stay clean, I'd stay fucking clean.  So fuck him and the rest of them.  I hope they test the shit out of them all and get steroid use out of professional sports and back into the gym for us average guys that Congress doesn't give a frog's fat ass about.  Plus Manny is a douche anyway. 

since when is HCG a "ROID"?
that artical is full of errors in facts.


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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 01:48:14 PM »
since when is HCG a "ROID"?
that artical is full of errors in facts.



Its an ancillary that no grown man would use if he were not coming off a steroid cycle.  Lets be real dude, he was taking steroids and that is why he was using hcg, we're not in a court of law here.  It was clearly laid out by the league that hcg is BANNED from use.  They did this b/c they know that its a part of a steroid protocol to use hcg with a cycle or after a cycle.  He knew this when his "doctor" prescribed it to him for this mysterious "condition" he had.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 01:58:26 PM »


There is nothing "sad" about it.  The guy got pinched using 'roids, these athletes are told very clearly what they can and cannot use by MLB so the whole "my doctor gave it to me for a medical thing" is just so fucking retarded its an insult.

Its these high profile athletes that fuck up our ability to get real, HG gear for a good price.  If it weren't for A-Rod and Clemens and Manny, Congress wouldn't give a shit (like they didn't give a shit in the 80's), and the average guy could get good clean gear with no problems.  They fuck it up for the rest of us and once you decide to become a pro athlete you follow the fucking rules about drug use.

If someone paid me 25 million a year to stay clean, I'd stay fucking clean.  So fuck him and the rest of them.  I hope they test the shit out of them all and get steroid use out of professional sports and back into the gym for us average guys that Congress doesn't give a frog's fat ass about.  Plus Manny is a douche anyway. 

I'm not trying to be a dick, but if you understood the reality of the widespread use in pro sports you would understand that, unless you have all pro natural genetics, you are at a disadvantage by not using.....you will lose your 25 million.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 07:13:10 PM »
i think the punishment was a bit harsh...i mean they didnt find steroids in his system...just another situation for the liberal media to blow out of proportion

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 08:05:12 PM »
na screw them they get paid a lot of cash so they need to follow the rules with all that money they should spend more time and money on legal supps and train their ass off instead of snorting cocain with strippers

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 11:37:53 PM »
Its an ancillary that no grown man would use if he were not coming off a steroid cycle. 

Many men his age use it.

HCG has many uses in medicine.

True it's banned, but maybe he wants to bang his wife 3 times a day?

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 12:11:41 AM »
Many men his age use it.

HCG has many uses in medicine.

True it's banned, but maybe he wants to bang his wife 3 times a day?

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Agreed. The MLB is a joke anyway. And pretty much all athletes are enhanced. Even golfers and tennis fags are juicing and getting surgery for their eyes and shit.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2009, 12:28:52 AM »
Just saw that on the news tonight too...ridiculous... what's next? guys are gonna be getting suspended for using tribulus ?!

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2009, 04:29:55 AM »
the liberal media?

how do you associate anti-steroid news with liberals?

 ??? 

I was wondering the same thing? This new term I keep hearing the "liberal media" is a joke, WTF does it mean?  What would the Conservative media cover...news about the Pope, religion, the war on terror or about how awful same sex marriage is?  If anything it is the conservative "media" who makes such a big deal about steroids in pro sports....who cares?

I hate pro sports and the people who idolize these morons who make 25 million a year.  These fans know everything about these guys and live vicariously through them.  As long as these "fans" keep paying to see these people play a meaningless game the players will keep getting richer and the fans poorer.  They must laugh their asses off every night all the way to the bank.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2009, 04:47:42 AM »
Many men his age use it.

HCG has many uses in medicine.

True it's banned, but maybe he wants to bang his wife 3 times a day?

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Many men his age use it?  That is simply not true.  It's a FEMALE FERTILITY DRUG.  Fifteen years ago virtually nobody in the sports world or the gym even knew what the stuff was.  I have never seen a man use hcg or known of or read about a man using it for legitimate purposes outside of steroid use.  Many men his age that are steroid-free DO NOT USE HCG.  That is a crock of shit.

Never-the-less, these guys have a list of substances that are specifically banned that they can refer to at any time.  They also have WORLD CLASS DOCTORS working for each team, so why would he go outside of the teams' docs for this hormone issue?  Its all so fucking silly, he obviously juiced.  Its like listening to OJ Simpson talking about how he is hiring a private detective to find his wife's real killer.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2009, 08:55:16 AM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907


Kind of harsh considering his doctor prescribed it for legit medical use.

It's ridiculous that his own doctor can't prescribe medication without violating MLB's drug policy.

It's a personal issue........not a steroid issue.



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No, it's in the rule book so he shouldn't have used it. Manny should have known better & should have discussed this seriously with his doctor. He's completely at fault here.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2009, 08:55:36 AM »
the liberal media?

how do you associate anti-steroid news with liberals?

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The guy's a tool. The whole Anti-Steroid bullshit started with COnservative Bushy when he called out steroids in his State of the Union address.  Fuck Bush and Fuck Bush again.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2009, 12:07:25 PM »
Many men his age use it?  That is simply not true.  It's a FEMALE FERTILITY DRUG.  Fifteen years ago virtually nobody in the sports world or the gym even knew what the stuff was.  I have never seen a man use hcg or known of or read about a man using it for legitimate purposes outside of steroid use.  Many men his age that are steroid-free DO NOT USE HCG.  That is a crock of shit.

Never-the-less, these guys have a list of substances that are specifically banned that they can refer to at any time.  They also have WORLD CLASS DOCTORS working for each team, so why would he go outside of the teams' docs for this hormone issue?  Its all so fucking silly, he obviously juiced.  Its like listening to OJ Simpson talking about how he is hiring a private detective to find his wife's real killer.

um,  you need to read more.   Its commonly used in men with infertility problems in place of LH.  its also used as an adjunct therapy for legitimate hypogonadism. 

Also, does it say anywhere who or where this doctor was?   



Personaly, I think baseball needs to quit this shit and hang Selig from a high tree.  I want to see players smack homeruns. They are making millions for nothing now.  This soap opera crap is killing the sport for me. 

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2009, 12:43:35 PM »
Many men his age use it?  That is simply not true.  It's a FEMALE FERTILITY DRUG.  Fifteen years ago virtually nobody in the sports world or the gym even knew what the stuff was.  I have never seen a man use hcg or known of or read about a man using it for legitimate purposes outside of steroid use.  Many men his age that are steroid-free DO NOT USE HCG.  That is a crock of shit.

Never-the-less, these guys have a list of substances that are specifically banned that they can refer to at any time.  They also have WORLD CLASS DOCTORS working for each team, so why would he go outside of the teams' docs for this hormone issue?  Its all so fucking silly, he obviously juiced.  Its like listening to OJ Simpson talking about how he is hiring a private detective to find his wife's real killer.

You obviously have some issues you need to take care of.

And again you are incorrect.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2009, 03:16:55 PM »

I hate pro sports and the people who idolize these morons who make 25 million a year.  These fans know everything about these guys and live vicariously through them.  As long as these "fans" keep paying to see these people play a meaningless game the players will keep getting richer and the fans poorer.  They must laugh their asses off every night all the way to the bank.

no shit.  i have never been to a professional sports game and cant tell you the last time i watched one on tv.  the idiot fans keep paying all their money so these hoodrats can make 30 million a year for putting a ball through a hoop.  and the sad thing is its mostly white people who are funding this.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2009, 09:16:19 PM »
yeah liberal media...listen our beloved vice-president and his comments on the subject...he may have as well cried over it...along with the other liberal democrats who made up the hearing boards...bush did it b/c he had too no other reason..if nothing was said about it it would've looked bad for his admin. but that wouldnt be the only thing wrong...he's better than obama

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2009, 09:20:56 PM »
no shit.  i have never been to a professional sports game and cant tell you the last time i watched one on tv.  the idiot fans keep paying all their money so these hoodrats can make 30 million a year for putting a ball through a hoop.  and the sad thing is its mostly white people who are funding this.

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Re: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for using HCG.
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2009, 03:27:06 AM »
They are just modern day gladiators.  Competition of some sort has always been a part of history.

I will say that if Americans put that money in their pocket, rather than buying a ticket, and went for a jog, this country would benefit.

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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2009, 06:02:53 AM »
They are just modern day gladiators.  Competition of some sort has always been a part of history.

I will say that if Americans put that money in their pocket, rather than buying a ticket, and went for a jog, this country would benefit.

Yep its cool sometimes to see your home team in the play offs or something.  It is entertainment for a bit, but its the people who are obssesed with the whole thing. They know every player on every team, what they eat for breakfast, all thier stats and watch all the games swilling brew at a sports bar with thier buddies getting loud and drunk about men getting rich playing a silly game on TV that makes me sick.

Hey go to the ball park once in a while, for those that enjoy it it can be a nice time.