nice video from a former Vet on his views on Tim McVeigh

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[Hereford]

Why does every retard with a computer think their opinions matter?

Tim McVey was a hero.

[pillowtalk]

Why does every retard with a computer think their opinions matter?

Tim McVey was a hero.

Yeah, I mean who'da thunk of it, sheeeeeeeeeesh !!

[kcballer]

You can't be serious hereford and i'll give you a chance to delete said post above.   

[Hereford]

Or what, pray tell... 

[kcballer]

Or what, pray tell... 

I'm not going to come fight you in a cage or anything.  But you honestly can't believe the loss of innocent people is justified and that this guy is some sort of 'good' person.  It'd be like saying 9/11 was justified.  Pure and utter nonsense.

[Hereford]

I'm not going to come fight you in a cage or anything.  But you honestly can't believe the loss of innocent people is justified and that this guy is some sort of 'good' person.  It'd be like saying 9/11 was justified.  Pure and utter nonsense.

Most muslims think 9/11 was justified.  It all depends on your point of view

The Murrah building's purpose was as an administrative center for the ATF (the closest to a modern Gestapo that we have), and a public assistance (welfare) center. It was a legitimant target for someone violently opposing the government.

[BM OUT]

Most muslims think 9/11 was justified.  It all depends on your point of view

The Murrah building's purpose was as an administrative center for the ATF (the closest to a modern Gestapo that we have), and a public assistance (welfare) center. It was a legitimant target for someone violently opposing the government.

Your wasting your time.These people didnt blink an eye when the government decided that burning over 100 people at WACO was justified.Didnt blink an eye when the thug government shot down an innocent women and a child at Ruby Ridge, all in the name of diversity.They just think that McVeigh was some kook,but the all mighty government is our protector.They are outraged when someone finally says ENOUGH, but sleep great when the government steals peoples rights,liberty and very lives in an attempt to force everyone to live the way THEY dictate they should live and believe what they say you should believe.

[kcballer]

Most muslims think 9/11 was justified.  It all depends on your point of view

The Murrah building's purpose was as an administrative center for the ATF (the closest to a modern Gestapo that we have), and a public assistance (welfare) center. It was a legitimant target for someone violently opposing the government.

And the children in the daycare centre i guess deserved it to?

Plus everyone in the ATF is a horrible person including the people who have nothing to do with policy enforcement and just do admin work to get by.  Same with the welfare people gosh they must have deserved it too.

Get a grip.    

[BM OUT]

And the children in the daycare centre i guess deserved it to?

Plus everyone in the ATF is a horrible person including the people who have nothing to do with policy enforcement and just do admin work to get by.  Same with the welfare people gosh they must have deserved it too.

Get a grip.    

McVEIGH SAID THEY WERE CASUALTIES OF WAR.Nothing less,nothing more.

[kcballer]

Your wasting your time.These people didnt blink an eye when the government decided that burning over 100 people at WACO was justified.Didnt blink an eye when the thug government shot down an innocent women and a child at Ruby Ridge, all in the name of diversity.They just think that McVeigh was some kook,but the all mighty government is our protector.They are outraged when someone finally says ENOUGH, but sleep great when the government steals peoples rights,liberty and very lives in an attempt to force everyone to live the way THEY dictate they should live and believe what they say you should believe.

Do you personally know that every person in the building mcveigh the loser bombed was for waco and ruby ridge?  because that's your justification.  It has nothing to do with saying ENOUGH and everything to do with killing innocent people.  Like i said to Hereford, Billy you must think 9/11 was justified do you? I mean you think this is because it's an attack on the government or is it only justified when it suits you?  You can't have it both ways billy.  Either this is BS unjustifiable or this and 9/11 were perpetrated by 'heros' of yours.  

[Hereford]

Oh, I have one already, thanks.

The kids were an unfortunate effect. Collateral damage. If you are going to use them as your defense then you have to condemn every military action since the beginning of history. I love how 'the kids' are always mentioned.... Very minor part of the whole picture.

The ATF is an illegitimate agency.

[kcballer]

McVEIGH SAID THEY WERE CASUALTIES OF WAR.Nothing less,nothing more.

So if someone kills your child it's justified if they had some 'war' going on against the government?

[Hereford]

Do you personally know that every person in the building mcveigh the loser bombed was for waco and ruby ridge?  because that's your justification.  It has nothing to do with saying ENOUGH and everything to do with killing innocent people.  Like i said to Hereford, Billy you must think 9/11 was justified do you? I mean you think this is because it's an attack on the government or is it only justified when it suits you?  You can't have it both ways billy.  Either this is BS unjustifiable or this and 9/11 were perpetrated by 'heros' of yours.  

There is no connection between 9/11 and OKC.

McVey did not bomb the Murrah building to kill the kids. He was going after the ATF, and other federal agencies.

[kcballer]

Oh, I have one already, thanks.

The kids were an unfortunate effect. Collateral damage. If you are going to use them as your defense then you have to condemn every military action since the beginning of history. I love how 'the kids' are always mentioned.... Very minor part of the whole picture.

The ATF is an illegitimate agency.

An 'unfortunate effect'.  This wasn't 'military action' it was terrorism.  Don't try to act like it's a 'war' it's got nothing to do with 'war' or the army or anything military.  It was some kook who decided to kill a bunch of innocent people because he was too pussy to go after anyone who could defend themselves.  

[BM OUT]

Do you personally know that every person in the building mcveigh the loser bombed was for waco and ruby ridge?  because that's your justification.  It has nothing to do with saying ENOUGH and everything to do with killing innocent people.  Like i said to Hereford, Billy you must think 9/11 was justified do you? I mean you think this is because it's an attack on the government or is it only justified when it suits you?  You can't have it both ways billy.  Either this is BS unjustifiable or this and 9/11 were perpetrated by 'heros' of yours.  

The reason he hated the government was Ruby Ridge and WACO.Thats a fact.Thats what drove him to this.Again I will ask you,where is your outrage over the looser government burning women and childeren in Waco or shooting innocent women and a kid in Ruby Ridge.Seems to be a bit of selective outrage on your part.

911 was justified in the minds of the terrorists.Doesnt matter if you or I think its justified.They thought that was teaching the US a lesson not to back Isreal and defile their Holy land.

Lastly.McVeigh was put to death for his crimes.Janet Reno ran for the senate.Seem like a fair system to you?

[kcballer]

There is no connection between 9/11 and OKC.

McVey did not bomb the Murrah building to kill the kids. He was going after the ATF, and other federal agencies.

And according to Osama Bin Laden he didn't go after the two towers to destory them completely.  He was quoted as saying the collapse wasn't part of his plan but a welcome effect.  Disgusting.  

The connection is the killing of innocent american's by people who think it's justifiable to kill innocent people to get their point across.  

Your view on OKC speaks volumes about your patriotism.  You have none.  You're a coward like mcveigh, like the 9/11 highjackers.  

[240 is Back]

Most muslims think 9/11 was justified. 

Show me some evidence of this claim.

[Hereford]

An 'unfortunate effect'.  This wasn't 'military action' it was terrorism.  Don't try to act like it's a 'war' it's got nothing to do with 'war' or the army or anything military.  It was some kook who decided to kill a bunch of innocent people because he was too pussy to go after anyone who could defend themselves.  

The ATF is an aggressive, prosecutorary federal agency. Just because they got caught does not mean they were defenseless. The ATF is against the people of this country on numerous levels. If you are in their employ, you are fair game to some one who moves against this agency. If you brought your kids into the line of fire, that is YOUR burden, nobody elses.

If you were a cook in the Army in Iraq right now, would you bring your kids over there based on the fact you wern't an active agressor? Would you say if 'wasn't fair' if you got attacked, that you 'couldn't defend yourself'??

[BM OUT]

And according to Osama Bin Laden he didn't go after the two towers to destory them completely.  He was quoted as saying the collapse wasn't part of his plan but a welcome effect.  Disgusting.  

The connection is the killing of innocent american's by people who think it's justifiable to kill innocent people to get their point across.  

Your view on OKC speaks volumes about your patriotism.  You have none.  You're a coward like mcveigh, like the 9/11 highjackers.  

McVEIGH A COWARD?The guy backed up his beliefs with actions,got caught,didnt deny it,went to the death chamber with his head held high.Never appologised,never asked to be forgiven,never complained,didnt try to get stays or an appeal.He is one of the least cowardly people in thre history of this country.He also didnt throw his friends under the bus like our brave president does everytime he gets a chance.

By the way,flying a plane into a building, knowing your going to die, for your beliefs is exactly the opposite of a coward.In fact,I cant think of anything more hardcore then that.

[Hereford]

And according to Osama Bin Laden he didn't go after the two towers to destory them completely.  He was quoted as saying the collapse wasn't part of his plan but a welcome effect.  Disgusting.  

The connection is the killing of innocent american's by people who think it's justifiable to kill innocent people to get their point across.  

Your view on OKC speaks volumes about your patriotism.  You have none.  You're a coward like mcveigh, like the 9/11 highjackers.  

You have no grounds to question my patriotism. I question yours since you are obviously of the opinion that the government is 100% correct and righteous.

Let me repeat myself... There was no connection between 9/11 and OKC.

As for the other question... Go you tube some Al-Jazeera clips.

[kcballer]

The reason he hated the government was Ruby Ridge and WACO.Thats a fact.Thats what drove him to this.Again I will ask you,where is your outrage over the looser government burning women and childeren in Waco or shooting innocent women and a kid in Ruby Ridge.Seems to be a bit of selective outrage on your part.

911 was justified in the minds of the terrorists.Doesnt matter if you or I think its justified.They thought that was teaching the US a lesson not to back Isreal and defile their Holy land.

Lastly.McVeigh was put to death for his crimes.Janet Reno ran for the senate.Seem like a fair system to you?

How do you know my outrage about those events? This thread is about OKC.  Start a thread about those and i will post in that with my opinion.  If you're asking what it is i'll tell you.  I think both actions were disgustingly mishandled and there should have been criminal charges.  The fact there wasn't is a tarnish and black mark on all those involved.  

That however, doesn't justify the killing of innocent people.  I'll play devils advocate for a while on this though - if you want to harm the govt go after them they are in the senate, the white house, the pentagon.  FBI and ATF headquarters are made public.  Go after the perpetrators NOT innocent people.  That shows he's a coward and pussy as coward who has to go after innocent people because he doesn't have the balls to go after anyone else.  

[Hereford]

Quit calling names and realize that there are no innocents.

[kcballer]

You have no grounds to question my patriotism. I question yours since you are obviously of the opinion that the government is 100% correct and righteous.

Let me repeat myself... There was no connection between 9/11 and OKC.

As for the other question... Go you tube some Al-Jazeera clips.

I have no such opinion.  I believe in democracy, in peaceful means to obtain goals and to sway the government.  

I can question it because you are of the mind that terrorism is okay and therefore 9/11 is justified.  

You like to say 'no connection' but anyone can see the connection.  terrorism on us soil committed by extremists.  You support it.  you are not patriotic and honestly, you're a disgrace to the united states of america.  I'm done discussing this with you.  

[kcballer]

McVEIGH A COWARD?The guy backed up his beliefs with actions,got caught,didnt deny it,went to the death chamber with his head held high.Never appologised,never asked to be forgiven,never complained,didnt try to get stays or an appeal.He is one of the least cowardly people in thre history of this country.He also didnt throw his friends under the bus like our brave president does everytime he gets a chance.

By the way,flying a plane into a building, knowing your going to die, for your beliefs is exactly the opposite of a coward.In fact,I cant think of anything more hardcore then that.

I am struggling to comprehend what i just read.  You're as bad as Hereford.  Absolute disgrace to the American people.