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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #100 on: May 14, 2009, 11:38:34 AM »
lmao dude, your a fucking clown,  not because they were training hard. your "giant sets" wouldnt make anybody throw up, not unless they felt sick beause of the pre workout slin.  they were making fun of your dumbass for the massive carb loads that made them sick.  its on flexonline a dj interview with silvio samuel. http://www.flexonline.com/videos/91   watch at 14:30.

Massive carb loads made them sick...yet they did repeatedly - FOR years...?

DJ has been very open in explaining how I over-carbed him couple of times - and I accepted his "blame" - even posted publicly that - "I screwed up"...to make a grown man feel better about his shortcomings...

Does anyone knows what CARB LOADING IS?

Can anyone actually ask WHY bodybuilders do carb load and what is the purpose?

While endurance athletes have their specific reasons to deplete and than super-compensate glycogen storage for their chosen sports - how about bodybuilders?

I said million times - there are so many "unbelievable" ::) expert-nutritionists  in bodybuilding - that do absolute miracles with their competitors...

They "DIAL THEM IN" like a 1-900 number (with so much $ per minute - to add)...

They simply get guys (or girls) - "dry to the bone"...

WOW!?!?!

And when you look those competitors - they are border line emergency case waiting to happen, dehydrated to the point of life danger...and "juiced up" to the Jing-jing yet majorly under nourished and severely catabolic - following their suicidal contest diet - sometimes sub 1000 kcal /day !?!?!?

Yet, they show up on the contest day - DIALED IN...(1-900-LETMEDIE or 1-900-LUVZOMBIE.COM....)

If those poor guys do manage to finish the contest without emergency intervention of paramedics - next few days are still critical...for just bare survival...

Needless to say - guys "blow up" like a fish - often gaining MORE THAN 50 POUNDS in just couple of days...and sometimes more - with American hearth association and/or Guinness book of world records extreme interest...

Guy that was in shape for 24 hour period, in matter of few days become again "off-season" obese looking, hearth attack waiting to happen, respiratory machine grasping for air even walking...

Fun to be around - like only....hmmmm, somebody...- EL somebody could be...

You want to be spill-over proof, dry to the bone?

You need about 7 micrograms of brain to come up with the plan...



Deplete into the show and drop water + use necessary amount of diuretics...


WOW, brilliance of the muscle minds!

Never mind that you:

1) Destroyed so much quality muscle during dieting phase...That hard earned muscle mass you work so hard for during the off season, force feeding yourself and training like a maniac...to make necessary improvements...

2) Lower your caloric intake to dramatically low total amount of calories, devoid yourself of necessary and important essential nutrients - needed for general health and well being...

3) Due to strict regimen - becoming ZOMBIE in real sense of that word - worthless to any business, family, relationship - WORTHLESS in again true sense of that word...suffering, hungry, tired, irritable...STUPID ::)...

4) Sending your body in deep starvation mode - where your body must start catabolizing itself - due to lack of calories and differential in caloric intake/need...Loosing MUSCLE and not fat...as metabolic activity of muscle tissue far exceeds one of fat - and 'HIGHER THE DEFICIT' worse it gets...and bodybuilders are the VERY BEST EXAMPLE of that!

Simply, due to extreme muscle mass - bodybuilders do have much higher metabolic rate than average Joes...
Considering the metabolic activity of "extremely muscular physiques" going through rigorous training sessions DAILY - sometimes 2 cardio sessions + 2 training sessions, frequent meals, high protein...etc - TEE + TEF increases certainly support the need for MUCH HIGHER CALORIC INTAKE rather than SEVERELY REDUCED - which happens to be the case with many bodybuilding "gurus" advisers...

Poor bodybuilders would "kill" their metabolisms and as soon as contest is over - even once "normal" caloric intake would now represent by far too much calories for starved body - thus all extra calories would instantly be stored as body fat...EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT BODYBUILDERS WANT...


etc, etc...God, I must go to work...

Anyway - I want to point out ONE thing:
when you prepare some athlete for bodybuilding show - you should consider EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to create logical and most effective diet regimen, training program and contest preparation protocols - resulting in spectacular condition of the athlete...who would in process of dieting for that contest:

1) not just maintain but INCREASE muscle mass while getting rid of body fat in process (YES, very possible IF you know what you are doing)

2) Get rid of level of bodyfat needed to be considered WINNER in bodybuilding contest (which could be debatable what is that LEVEL) - but nevertheless -devoid your body of unnecessary body fat...

3) Maintain general health by making sure all necessary essential nutrients are present in diet of human being engaged in extreme physical efforts who is trying to make favorable changes in body composition - and those changes being of extreme nature: highest amount of muscle mass increases (and if particular - specific changes in specific regions...Not always changing just MASS component but sometimes SHAPE, quality...etc), loss of body fat, manipulation of extracellular/intracellular water...with electrolytes...and GLYCOGEN storage in muscle as well as liver....Manipulation in sense of increasing capacity of glycogen storage + directing water/electrolytes of choice - INSIDE the cells...and getting rid of extracellular water...thus achieving that winning combination bodybuilders wan...

4) Increasing (instead of decreasing) metabolism - as contest prep calls for INCREASED physical activities - thus making it possible to safely INCREASE amount of calories rather than decreasing - to me COMPLETE NONSENSE that many compettors follow as many "gurus' recommend...

...well, as I have to go - I can't finish...but I want to make sure I make a point:

I show guys how to do everything 100% - and going for 100% sometimes leaves chances for mistakes...

Mistakes are most commonly visible in EXCEEDING AMOUNT OF CARBS in relation to GLYCOGEN CAPACITY of the athletes...

So, when some athlete starts carb loading - or carb manipulation - they could leave it at any stage in process of "filling" the glycogen stores back up (after depletion phase)...

If anyone is chicken-shit - they would play safe and just NOT CARB LOAD at all or take minimal amount of carbs - as they would simply NOT WANT ANY RISKS...

Well, some actually do RISK and take chances - to get much higher percentage of glycogen storage - making their physiques much bigger, fuller, even tighter - IF done perfectly...

But, when someone like DJ - "who wold like to f.ck...but doesn't want to really stick it in" (term I use for someone who wants me to help him with - observing how far could he go with glycogen repletion - but he doesn't want me to see him every couple of hours - as Oh, my back hurts and I want to quit the contest, lying on his back in front of his family - telling me that he can't let me see him pose - day before the show...and who goes for that last meal - where he could let carbs alone at that point - being almost maxed out anyway - decides to have BINGE and keeps eating like there is no tomorrow, going to restaurant next door in quest for whatever he didn't find in one I was seating with his family...and simply OVERFILLS his storage - yet doesn't let me see him...YES IT IS GREAT POSSIBILITY - I gave him a bad advice and thus - becoming responsible for his disastrous result in Colorado show...- which BTW I accepted responsibility for...

I failed as a trainer and a coach - as I considered our friendship and "emotions" and felt bad enough to call him big baby in front of his wife and daughter and demand to see him every hour and watch him eat every bite - in fear that he could be one of those who once starts binging could not stop for a life of him...

What's important for me to mention - athletes mentioned here (as many others) I helped for FREE - as a friend...and more often than not - paying for my own transportation/hotel accommodation - while helping them compete - instead of staying home with MY FAMILY making my living...

As I failed to "create a miracle" I guess - I am ridiculed and made fun off - by the very people I helped...?!
And comments they make are intended for what - making me more business or pushing people away - so I absolutely don't?

And that is the sad truth of "IFBB camaraderie"...I guess...

For what is worth - Silvio and DJ - could bring ANY guru and than some in front of me and challenge me and my knowledge - to show them with pleasure how I measure up against others...

And that challenge I also accept publicly

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #101 on: May 14, 2009, 11:39:50 AM »

Or....... this guy   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
before i started training or dieting... nice try though


why dont you post your own picture.   :) 

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« Reply #102 on: May 14, 2009, 11:44:11 AM »
Milos knocking out a detailed 1500 word essay in a matter of minutes

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« Reply #103 on: May 14, 2009, 12:07:37 PM »
 how do you explain both of them looking much better after they stopped following your advices?

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« Reply #104 on: May 14, 2009, 12:12:06 PM »
here you go  :-*
thats the best youve ever looked, or at leats the bets youve ever looked ina picture youve posted here. have you gained weight? if so, how much?

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« Reply #105 on: May 14, 2009, 12:26:08 PM »

...well, as I have to go - I can't finish...but I want to make sure I make a point:

I show guys how to do everything 100% - and going for 100% sometimes leaves chances for mistakes...

Mistakes are most commonly visible in EXCEEDING AMOUNT OF CARBS in relation to GLYCOGEN CAPACITY of the athletes...

So, when some athlete starts carb loading - or carb manipulation - they could leave it at any stage in process of "filling" the glycogen stores back up (after depletion phase)...

If anyone is chicken-shit - they would play safe and just NOT CARB LOAD at all or take minimal amount of carbs - as they would simply NOT WANT ANY RISKS...

Well, some actually do RISK and take chances - to get much higher percentage of glycogen storage - making their physiques much bigger, fuller, even tighter - IF done perfectly...

But, when someone like DJ - "who wold like to f.ck...but doesn't want to really stick it in" (term I use for someone who wants me to help him with - observing how far could he go with glycogen repletion - but he doesn't want me to see him every couple of hours - as Oh, my back hurts and I want to quit the contest, lying on his back in front of his family - telling me that he can't let me see him pose - day before the show...and who goes for that last meal - where he could let carbs alone at that point - being almost maxed out anyway - decides to have BINGE and keeps eating like there is no tomorrow, going to restaurant next door in quest for whatever he didn't find in one I was seating with his family...and simply OVERFILLS his storage - yet doesn't let me see him...YES IT IS GREAT POSSIBILITY - I gave him a bad advice and thus - becoming responsible for his disastrous result in Colorado show...- which BTW I accepted responsibility for...

I failed as a trainer and a coach - as I considered our friendship and "emotions" and felt bad enough to call him big baby in front of his wife and daughter and demand to see him every hour and watch him eat every bite - in fear that he could be one of those who once starts binging could not stop for a life of him...

What's important for me to mention - athletes mentioned here (as many others) I helped for FREE - as a friend...and more often than not - paying for my own transportation/hotel accommodation - while helping them compete - instead of staying home with MY FAMILY making my living...

As I failed to "create a miracle" I guess - I am ridiculed and made fun off - by the very people I helped...?!
And comments they make are intended for what - making me more business or pushing people away - so I absolutely don't?

And that is the sad truth of "IFBB camaraderie"...I guess...

For what is worth - Silvio and DJ - could bring ANY guru and than some in front of me and challenge me and my knowledge - to show them with pleasure how I measure up against others...

And that challenge I also accept publicly

Wow. I usually just say bye.

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #106 on: May 14, 2009, 12:31:45 PM »

I said million times - there are so many "unbelievable" ::) expert-nutritionists  in bodybuilding - that do absolute miracles with their competitors...



You usually say you have the "highest respect" for their "incredible knowledge" when asked on radio shows etc. Why don't you say what you really think... for example that you think Palumbo is a fucking moron giving suicidal advice to his clients?  :D

And I thought you said Mr O competitors didn't abuse themselves with various drugs and prep methods because they were so knowledgeable?  :D

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #107 on: May 14, 2009, 12:45:23 PM »
lmao dude, your a fucking clown,  not because they were training hard. your "giant sets" wouldnt make anybody throw up, not unless they felt sick beause of the pre workout slin.  they were making fun of your dumbass for the massive carb loads that made them sick.  its on flexonline a dj interview with silvio samuel. http://www.flexonline.com/videos/91   watch at 14:30.

Which video is it, this directs me to some fitness chick video.

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« Reply #108 on: May 14, 2009, 02:07:46 PM »
I tell ya, any thread with Milos in it is always entertaining!  Keep it up Milos! ;D

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« Reply #109 on: May 14, 2009, 02:12:19 PM »
Which video is it, this directs me to some fitness chick video.
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/?bcpid=17320904001&bclid=1460782895&bctid

thats the closest i oculd get you with a link. its the interview section of flexonline. you have to scroll down to the silvio samuel interview. they start on milos at 1430

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« Reply #110 on: May 14, 2009, 03:52:38 PM »
if you want to make threats like that, come meet me. im not going to drive all the way to so cal to come call you a dumbass and then drive back. manteca, california. its about 6 hours north of you.    ;)

 ;) cyber  :'( hero...

You are calling me 'dumbass' in Cyber territory where you "rule' ...
I am calling you to real life - posting under my name and my name only - and letting everyone know where I could easily be found - if need be...

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #111 on: May 14, 2009, 03:56:25 PM »
All top 10 Mr. Olympia competitors take about 2000-2500 mg of test per week alone.  HTH.

Name those 10 - and ask them to confirm... ;)

And WHY only that much? Are you sure it's not double, triple or god-knows what amount...?

Or maybe...just maybe...some of the top pros do have longevity for very good reason - they don't abuse steroids for simple reason - they know better...


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« Reply #112 on: May 14, 2009, 04:00:16 PM »
how do you explain both of them looking much better after they stopped following your advices?

Really?

Silvio made huge gains with me - than started descending - until he realized what he have learned from me - and went back on it...

DJ ?
He went backwards and lost tons of size in comparison...yet - did come 'dryer' into the shows he certainly choose NOT TO RISK a single thing...
I've seen him better 100's of times - if you ask me...

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« Reply #113 on: May 14, 2009, 04:02:56 PM »
You usually say you have the "highest respect" for their "incredible knowledge" when asked on radio shows etc. Why don't you say what you really think... for example that you think Palumbo is a fucking moron giving suicidal advice to his clients?  :D

And I thought you said Mr O competitors didn't abuse themselves with various drugs and prep methods because they were so knowledgeable?  :D

Who do you think I am talking about here?

Certainly not top gurus and top pros - which you seem to think that I am talking about...

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« Reply #114 on: May 14, 2009, 04:04:17 PM »
I tell ya, any thread with Milos in it is always entertaining!  Keep it up Milos! ;D

I am more entertaining in person - as my accent usually does the trick...

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« Reply #115 on: May 14, 2009, 04:06:40 PM »
I am more entertaining in person - as my accent usually does the trick...

Hey Milos, you always had great posing music and routines; what do you think about the gay ass RMB/RAP shit and the crap posing nowadays?
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« Reply #116 on: May 14, 2009, 04:08:23 PM »
Who do you think I am talking about here?

Certainly not top gurus and top pros - which you seem to think that I am talking about...

Does not Palumbo deprive his clients of calories, have them do endless cardio and do very little carb loading? Are you saying Palumbo does not do this and that you think his methods are great?

So tell me, who are you talking about exactly? You say "guru" so they must have some notoriety. You're not being honest here.

And why did you take responsibility for DJ's fuck up when what you really think is that he fucked himself up?

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« Reply #117 on: May 14, 2009, 04:19:30 PM »
Name those 10 - and ask them to confirm... ;)

And WHY only that much? Are you sure it's not double, triple or god-knows what amount...?

Or maybe...just maybe...some of the top pros do have longevity for very good reason - they don't abuse steroids for simple reason - they know better...


Practically every pro has experimented with up to 5000 mg or so and realized that increased results diminish after about 2000 to 2500 mg of testosterone (+ other compounds).  I'm sure you know this....well, maybe not, since you weren't really a top 10 pro - or maybe you were for just one year? :)

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« Reply #118 on: May 14, 2009, 04:39:35 PM »
hey milos im going to give away yoru advice and do it for free

test e 250mg mon-wed-fri
gh 4iu ed
humalog 20iu pre workout
t3 25mcg ed


BOOOOOOMMMM

now thats what you say in the open, so now i post what you say behind closed doors

test e 250mg ed
gh 10iu ed
humalog 20iu 3x times per day
t3 25mcg ed



now get the fuck out of here with your bullshit, dumbass


I'm just asking,who cares "if" he would lie?,i mean if he would say in the open what you stated as 'behind closed doors' you would think "he is lieing,it gotta be more than that" , it's just a never-ending circle..

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« Reply #119 on: May 14, 2009, 05:02:25 PM »
;) cyber  :'( hero...

You are calling me 'dumbass' in Cyber territory where you "rule' ...
I am calling you to real life - posting under my name and my name only - and letting everyone know where I could easily be found - if need be...
your the one who said you wanted to spank me..   i never said i wanted to do anything at all physical to you, only insulted yoru intelligence. if youd like ill send you my exact address in a p.m... i already told you my town name..

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« Reply #120 on: May 15, 2009, 11:21:27 AM »
your the one who said you wanted to spank me..   i never said i wanted to do anything at all physical to you, only insulted yoru intelligence. if youd like ill send you my exact address in a p.m... i already told you my town name..


WOW...already gave me your town name...O-K than...

I said for a reason my "cyber hero" that "tough talk" behind the keyboard is usually a clear sign of major insecurities of inferior babies - wishing they could be a real man in real world yet using every excuse in the book they continue living in their fantasy cyber world - where walking the walk is only imaginary solution for their big talk...

So, now you will send me exact address in a p.m.....

You already told me your town name...

WOW - what's next?

Any idea what you are presenting here?
No?
Maybe you could ask your mama - when you start shaking and finish few roles of that toilet paper - you so desperately need...if it is OK to call someone dumbass ?

I am sure mom would have no problem somebody teaching you some manners...

But...just out of curiosity... WHAT is the reason you can't post under your real name?

Witness protection program?
Endangered specie?
Illegal alien?
America most wanted?
ED - anonymous?

or just NOBODY - afraid to become somebody...?

Have a nice - www.giga-day...or according to the size of your balls I should say - nano-day?


 

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« Reply #121 on: May 15, 2009, 11:24:40 AM »
calm down fellas, your arguing over other guys muscles...you know that right ?
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« Reply #122 on: May 15, 2009, 11:28:10 AM »
oh...gift for you...

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« Reply #123 on: May 15, 2009, 11:29:56 AM »
One of the best Quads and Abs ever .... sick, deep cuts....


Tbombz ...your turn .. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #124 on: May 15, 2009, 11:31:47 AM »
calm down fellas, your arguing over other guys muscles...you know that right ?

Hey Jae...my Filipino friend...Is your last name Pacquiao? ;D