Why are you saying these guys are juicing? it's not like they have incredible mass that's impossible to achieve without drugs. They're not munzer ripped either...
to be a model you have to be borderline anorexic. to do that and have muscles, you need PEDs.
so stan made a living on just modeling?
he certainly made more from modeling (ads, endorsements) while an amateur than almost all IFBB pros
i thought your ideal would be someone bigger than that?
yes, he's young and latino, and JMT, so maybe I'm thinking with the wrong head. But, stand next to him and you'll realize he has more muscle than 99% of the population. more importantly, symmetry and proportionality is what makes a great physique. For the great bodybuilders of the past, such as Reeves and a young Pearl, symmetry and proportionality is what made them great.