Clen and Cytomel

[wnt2Bbig]

I am trying not to duplicate that which has already been asked.  I have read and reread all the posts regarding the Clen and T3 from various research companies.  However a lot of the reviews of the companies are a year old more more.  I know asking for sources is prohibited but I just want a current review of the companies so Im not throwing my money away.

Also By taking the Taurine and the Potassium will that reduce or eliminate the cramps from these chemicals and protect the heart?
What is an appropriate amount to stop this?  Should the dosage be split up over the course of the day?
Some of these threads have stated the liquid forms are underdosed or overdosed and potentially not stable in a liquid form.  Is this true for all of them or certain companies.
I plan on ramping up from 20 not to exceed 120 for a period of three weeks for each one.  Since this is a liquid should I further divide the dose over the day or one dose right in the morning.
I appreciate your patience and your responses.  A lot of you have provided me with a lot of help navigating through all of this without flaming me.  I really appreciate it and I look forward to the replies.

[darmhok]

i dont understand why people mess themselves up with this stacks that doesnt even work very well.

plain old caffeine, ephedrine and aspirin is the way to go - and you wont mess up your thyroid

also, although i dont recommend it, NOTHING beats adderall for weight loss and apetite control

[shrek]

i dont understand why people mess themselves up with this stacks that doesnt even work very well.

plain old caffeine, ephedrine and aspirin is the way to go - and you wont mess up your thyroid

also, although i dont recommend it, NOTHING beats adderall for weight loss and apetite control

well one thing is that there is plenty of studies showng that T3 use for a long period of time and quiting your natural t3 will come back and for adderall that will cause catabolic effect clen actualy has an anabolic effect as does T3 ive read  your esent posts and you are wrong with 90% of them

[muscle19]

listen, t3, clen are very safe if used correctly, the whole issue of shutting down your thyroid will most likely not happen on a reasonable dose t3 cycle, im currently sing a low dose (not going over 50mcg) of t3 with my gh and gear/slin and i have used t3 numerous times and nothing bad has happened, my thyroid still works fine lol

[abc123]

If you guys knew how much T3 the Pros use you would not be worried about your 50 or 100mcg dose.  Hell, therapeutic doses are often 100 - 150 mcg.  Take a look at this....

http://www.drlowe.com/jcl/comentry/t3dangerous.htm

[darmhok]

well one thing is that there is plenty of studies showng that T3 use for a long period of time and quiting your natural t3 will come back and for adderall that will cause catabolic effect clen actualy has an anabolic effect as does T3 ive read  your esent posts and you are wrong with 90% of them

awww how sweet, you have nothing better to do with your life than look up MY posts. what a compliment!

i offered an opinion, what the board is for. and you are wrong about the t3 comming back to normal - AND you say adderall is catabolic which it is, you dont think t3 is catabolic genius??

[shrek]

awww how sweet, you have nothing better to do with your life than look up MY posts. what a compliment!

i offered an opinion, what the board is for. and you are wrong about the t3 comming back to normal - AND you say adderall is catabolic which it is, you dont think t3 is catabolic genius??

once again you are wrong you should read up on T3 before you reply to this T3  has an anabolic effect as does clen and no i didnt goo looking for your post i keep up with recent post and the ones you posted are nothing but clouded opions not factual....

[Princess L]

Also By taking the Taurine and the Potassium will that reduce or eliminate the cramps from these chemicals and protect the heart?

 Should the dosage be split up over the course of the day?
  Since this is a liquid should I further divide the dose over the day or one dose right in the morning.
I appreciate your patience and your responses.  A lot of you have provided me with a lot of help navigating through all of this without flaming me.  I really appreciate it and I look forward to the replies.

Taurine and potassium are to prevent muscle cramps. Clen depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.  In the kind of heat you're in, A LOT of water (1-1/2~2 gals) will also be necessary in avoiding cramps. Clen's half life is about 35 hours, so splitting up the dose isn't necessary, but if you do, avoid taking it within ~6~ hours of bedtime or you'll be tossing and turning (unless of course you're one of those who can sleep on stims).

[tbombz]

Taurine and potassium are to prevent muscle cramps. Clen depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.  In the kind of heat you're in, A LOT of water (1-1/2~2 gals) will also be necessary in avoiding cramps. Clen's half life is about 35 hours, so splitting up the dose isn't necessary, but if you do, avoid taking it within ~6~ hours of bedtime or you'll be tossing and turning (unless of course you're one of those who can sleep on stims).

clen is not a stimulant though, technically there is no reason why any amount of clen would stop one from falling asleep.

[Princess L]

clen is not a stimulant though, technically there is no reason why any amount of clen would stop one from falling asleep.

"Technically" yes, but it has that effect on most people regardless.

[muscle19]

i cant sleep if i have taken clen around bedtime, so i think the theory of it "not" being a stimulate is wrong

[tbombz]

i cant sleep if i have taken clen around bedtime, so i think the theory of it "not" being a stimulate is wrong

its not a theory thats its not a stimulant - its not a stimulant. however alot of people do get "stimulant-like" effects - shakiness, restlessness, etc. 

[muscle19]

its not a theory thats its not a stimulant - its not a stimulant. however alot of people do get "stimulant-like" effects - shakiness, restlessness, etc. 

ok, all i know, maybe taken larger doses, it gives me, like you said, stimulant-like effects, to where iutll be hard for me to sleep, heart pounding, etc..  tbombz, what doses have you used?

[tbombz]

ok, all i know, maybe taken larger doses, it gives me, like you said, stimulant-like effects, to where iutll be hard for me to sleep, heart pounding, etc..  tbombz, what doses have you used?

i have taken up to 320mcg.

[muscle19]

whoa lol  pills or do you mess with liquid? how old are you again?

[tbombz]

whoa lol  pills or do you mess with liquid? how old are you again?

pills. tried the liquid stuff once but it was garbage. stimulants dont effect me at all..nothing gets me shaky or wired.. i could take all the clen in the world and wouldnt have a problem. i only used that much at once because i knew i would only be dieting for one week so i wanted to strip off as much fat as possible in that amount of time. i used high dose t3 along with it to make sure all the releases fatty acids were burned off.

[Mega Man]

i dont understand why people mess themselves up with this stacks that doesnt even work very well.

plain old caffeine, ephedrine and aspirin is the way to go - and you wont mess up your thyroid

also, although i dont recommend it, NOTHING beats adderall for weight loss and apetite control

Why don't you recommend Adderall? Just curious....cause a drug that can help weight loss, apetite controll, plus help you foccuss and get tasks accomplished seems like a maricle drug to me LoL

[darmhok]

Why don't you recommend Adderall? Just curious....cause a drug that can help weight loss, apetite controll, plus help you foccuss and get tasks accomplished seems like a maricle drug to me LoL

i dont recommend adderall because it is amphetamine

there is another name for amphetamine - its called speed

yup thats right adderall IS speed - and they prescribe it to children for ADHD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall

[Bast175]

what's wrong with speed in responsible doses?   It's fine.  I think it shouldn't be taken every day as well.