Mexican Data Say Migration To U.S. Has Plummeted

[Hereford]

They are just looking at the big towns that everyone knows about here.  There are hundreds of small towns in the valley that are literally 95%+ mexican.  They are completely overrun.

[kcballer]

Haha US is fu*ked.  Listen to all you neo cons acting like the mexicans are to blame.  If they weren't HIRED they wouldn't come would they?  Think about it if no one hired them then they would have no reason to migrate north.  The fact is mexicans are willing to do the job AMERICANS aren't.  Face it how many of you grew up thinking it'd be okay to work at Taco Bell for the rest of your life? None.  But the mexican workers are happy to do that because they know the money is better than back home and the employers will employee them.  

It's a simple CAPITALIST idea.  Cut the costs of labor without decreasing productivity.  The businesses LOVE it (wal-mart, mcDonalds etc). It's like running a sweat shop in their own country without the hassle of finding workers overseas in third world countries, they come to you.  They get cheap labor, no complaints (if they complain they're fired without recourse) and fatter profits.  Surely you NEO CONS can see this is the way of Capitalism.  If you don't like quit making it a republican-democrat issue because both parties are funded by companies making more and more money off the backs of illegal workers.  

If it upsets you so much boycott the products and companies that use the illegal workers.  Pay a fair price for your things instead of 'bargain' prices.  The 'bargain' has to come from somewhere and it sure as sh*t ain't coming out of the top brass pockets that's for sure.  Buy locally made, use locally sourced workers but no that's too hard lets blame obama, bush, mccain, or whoever else is around for this issue and not focus on who hires these people in the first place.  

Don't blame the mexicans for doing the jobs you WON'T do, blame the companies for hiring them and giving them a reason to stay and work in the US.  It seems you can't have it both ways.  Either the mexicans go and you have a generation of americans doing cleaning, house keeping, fast food jobs and you agree to INCREASE the minimum wage for all americans so they can actually live to a decent standard for the rest of their lives OR you allow those from third world countries to do those jobs for the current wages and keep it status quo.  

Of course that would mean you'd have to 'regulate' those companies and tell them what the minimum is they can pay their staff and you're probably opposed to that too so you have to make a concession somewhere neo-cons.  Regulation and a fair wage or illegal immigration, no regulation and fatter pockets for the higher ups.  Your call.

[Soul Crusher]

Haha US is fu*ked.  Listen to all you neo cons acting like the mexicans are to blame.  If they weren't HIRED they wouldn't come would they?  Think about it if no one hired them then they would have no reason to migrate north.  The fact is mexicans are willing to do the job AMERICANS aren't.  Face it how many of you grew up thinking it'd be okay to work at Taco Bell for the rest of your life? None.  But the mexican workers are happy to do that because they know the money is better than back home and the employers will employee them.  

It's a simple CAPITALIST idea.  Cut the costs of labor without decreasing productivity.  The businesses LOVE it (wal-mart, mcDonalds etc). It's like running a sweat shop in their own country without the hassle of finding workers overseas in third world countries, they come to you.  They get cheap labor, no complaints (if they complain they're fired without recourse) and fatter profits.  Surely you NEO CONS can see this is the way of Capitalism.  If you don't like quit making it a republican-democrat issue because both parties are funded by companies making more and more money off the backs of illegal workers.  

If it upsets you so much boycott the products and companies that use the illegal workers.  Pay a fair price for your things instead of 'bargain' prices.  The 'bargain' has to come from somewhere and it sure as sh*t ain't coming out of the top brass pockets that's for sure.  Buy locally made, use locally sourced workers but no that's too hard lets blame obama, bush, mccain, or whoever else is around for this issue and not focus on who hires these people in the first place.  

Don't blame the mexicans for doing the jobs you WON'T do, blame the companies for hiring them and giving them a reason to stay and work in the US.  It seems you can't have it both ways.  Either the mexicans go and you have a generation of americans doing cleaning, house keeping, fast food jobs and you agree to INCREASE the minimum wage for all americans so they can actually live to a decent standard for the rest of their lives OR you allow those from third world countries to do those jobs for the current wages and keep it status quo.  

Of course that would mean you'd have to 'regulate' those companies and tell them what the minimum is they can pay their staff and you're probably opposed to that too so you have to make a concession somewhere neo-cons.  Regulation and a fair wage or illegal immigration, no regulation and fatter pockets for the higher ups.  Your call.

WITH THE HELP & ASSISTANCE OF THE US GOVT.

 

[Hereford]

Haha US is fu*ked.  Listen to all you neo cons acting like the mexicans are to blame.  If they weren't HIRED they wouldn't come would they?  Think about it if no one hired them then they would have no reason to migrate north.  The fact is mexicans are willing to do the job AMERICANS aren't.  Face it how many of you grew up thinking it'd be okay to work at Taco Bell for the rest of your life? None.  But the mexican workers are happy to do that because they know the money is better than back home and the employers will employee them.  

It's a simple CAPITALIST idea.  Cut the costs of labor without decreasing productivity.  The businesses LOVE it (wal-mart, mcDonalds etc). It's like running a sweat shop in their own country without the hassle of finding workers overseas in third world countries, they come to you.  They get cheap labor, no complaints (if they complain they're fired without recourse) and fatter profits.  Surely you NEO CONS can see this is the way of Capitalism.  If you don't like quit making it a republican-democrat issue because both parties are funded by companies making more and more money off the backs of illegal workers.  

If it upsets you so much boycott the products and companies that use the illegal workers.  Pay a fair price for your things instead of 'bargain' prices.  The 'bargain' has to come from somewhere and it sure as sh*t ain't coming out of the top brass pockets that's for sure.  Buy locally made, use locally sourced workers but no that's too hard lets blame obama, bush, mccain, or whoever else is around for this issue and not focus on who hires these people in the first place.  

Don't blame the mexicans for doing the jobs you WON'T do, blame the companies for hiring them and giving them a reason to stay and work in the US.  It seems you can't have it both ways.  Either the mexicans go and you have a generation of americans doing cleaning, house keeping, fast food jobs and you agree to INCREASE the minimum wage for all americans so they can actually live to a decent standard for the rest of their lives OR you allow those from third world countries to do those jobs for the current wages and keep it status quo.  

Of course that would mean you'd have to 'regulate' those companies and tell them what the minimum is they can pay their staff and you're probably opposed to that too so you have to make a concession somewhere neo-cons.  Regulation and a fair wage or illegal immigration, no regulation and fatter pockets for the higher ups.  Your call.

Apparently you brain dead LIBS haven't read any of the first page of the thread.

They don't NEED jobs, they have all kinds of welfare to subsist on. It's like letting rats in the pantry.... Then continually restocking it as the rats consume everything.... They aren't going to leave as long as you are facilitating them. Why should they?

They do make weak wages, that is for sure.. but how do you think they can live on what the average mexican makes? They can't! Where does the difference come from?


Hint: 333386 figured it out.....

[kcballer]

WITH THE HELP & ASSISTANCE OF THE US GOVT.

 

Stop fu*king blaming the govt.  Yeah they allow it because they are paid to allow it by big business and it's good for big business.  

Just quit blaming them and start doing something about it.  like i said boycott the companies that use illegal labor, support small local business and pay more for the products you want, or continue on complaining like mad about it whilst the companies have no reason to stop hiring cause you keep buying, and the politicians have no reason to change anything because the campaign money will keep flowing.  

[Soul Crusher]

Stop fu*king blaming the govt.  Yeah they allow it because they are paid to allow it by big business and it's good for big business.  

Just quit blaming them and start doing something about it.  like i said boycott the companies that use illegal labor, support small local business and pay more for the products you want, or continue on complaining like mad about it whilst the companies have no reason to stop hiring cause you keep buying, and the politicians have no reason to change anything because the campaign money will keep flowing.  

Big Business loves these bums to keep wages down and they are protected by the US Govt failing to protect the borders and protect social assistance programs from only going to actual citizens.

If the US Gov, and the whole freaking "law enforcement" community simply did their damn job we would not have this problem.

[Dos Equis]

I don't approve of illegals getting welfare or any type of government assistance, but what I've seen is they by and large work very hard when they come here. 

[kcballer]

Big Business loves these bums to keep wages down and they are protected by the US Govt failing to protect the borders and protect social assistance programs from only going to actual citizens.

If the US Gov, and the whole freaking "law enforcement" community simply did their damn job we would not have this problem.

But what exactly are you going to do about it? I've outlined what you can do.  Punish the business that hires them.  It seems to me you'd rather complain about someone else than do something tangible yourself.  

[kcballer]

I don't approve of illegals getting welfare or any type of government assistance, but what I've seen is they by and large work very hard when they come here. 

I don't agree with Illegals either but i too have seen just how hard they will work.  They aren't 'lazy' as a whole.  there are always exceptions but as a whole they aren't lazy.  they don't come to america for welfare they come because people will hire them.  those are the people you should go after and boycott.  enough people do that, jobs dry up and what do you know.  People stop coming north for work because their is none.

[headhuntersix]

We can shell Juarez from out motorpools. U want the problem solved, build a wall. U want to save billions, stop anchor babies and allowing them rights. Working and making American greenbacks is good enough.

[Hereford]

I don't agree with Illegals either but i too have seen just how hard they will work.  They aren't 'lazy' as a whole.  there are always exceptions but as a whole they aren't lazy.  they don't come to america for welfare they come because people will hire them.  those are the people you should go after and boycott.  enough people do that, jobs dry up and what do you know.  People stop coming north for work because their is none.

Apparently this guy has never been around any illegals.  This sounds like college liberal regurgitation.

[Soul Crusher]

But what exactly are you going to do about it? I've outlined what you can do.  Punish the business that hires them.  It seems to me you'd rather complain about someone else than do something tangible yourself.  

I agree with you.  However, you cant ignore the fact that the Govt is complicit in this chaos. 

What can I do other than boycott those businesses, vote for anti-illegal immigration candidates, call and write my reps, etc?

[Soul Crusher]

I don't agree with Illegals either but i too have seen just how hard they will work.  They aren't 'lazy' as a whole.  there are always exceptions but as a whole they aren't lazy.  they don't come to america for welfare they come because people will hire them.  those are the people you should go after and boycott.  enough people do that, jobs dry up and what do you know.  People stop coming north for work because their is none.

No one said they are lazy.  Howevr, their presence here has an overall negative impact on the taxpayer.

[headhuntersix]

The folks coming across aren't lazy, its the next generation that starts the major problems.

[kcballer]

I agree with you.  However, you cant ignore the fact that the Govt is complicit in this chaos. 

What can I do other than boycott those businesses, vote for anti-illegal immigration candidates, call and write my reps, etc?

I know they're complicit.  They have been since it started being a problem.  The thing is though the government will always be complicit as long as business hires illegals workers and makes a profit from it.  When that stops, they'll stop lobbying the government and they will then start to do something about it.

You could do any range of things available to you.  The point is you can make a difference in your own world.  you can encourage others to join you and make the right choices, inform them of the companies hiring illegal workers, use your right to purchase from those who don't hire them, use your right to protest as an american, and from there things can snowball.   Makes more sense to me to do something, anything about it than do nothing.  

[Hereford]

The folks coming across aren't lazy, its the next generation that starts the major problems.

This is usually the case.

[Soul Crusher]

This is usually the case.

Look probably 50% of the illegals are decent people hard working etc.  However, the other lot of creeps and bums does not justify to me giving total amnesty to the good 50% since whatever good they do is completely outweighed by the bad done by the other 50%.