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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2009, 01:59:07 AM »

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2009, 02:08:31 AM »
i think that with all those roid and gh stuff i can walk on a show at 300 lbs and 6% bdf.
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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2009, 04:18:20 AM »
Again Ronnie said his best Olympia was his first among many others and Chad had him beating Jay in 06 what does he know? Ronnie looked incredible in 03 but it wasn't his best showing because his density & dryness and detail all paled in comparison to 01 ASC as well as his balance & proportion

Ronnie '03 would beat Ronnie ASC '01. No doubt.

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2009, 04:40:01 AM »
NASSER destroyed them all ;D

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2009, 03:02:21 PM »
what Ronnie said doesn't matter

why?

because his opinion changes depending on when you ask him.

eg. in 99 he publicly stated that he was in better condition than in 1998, only with 15 pounds more mass:

http://www.dennisbweis.com/Articles/Colman.html

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I was almost 15 pounds heavier than last year, with a little bit better conditioning than last year.




this is the quote the nuthuggers wish was never uttered.

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2009, 03:03:16 PM »
Is it really necesssary to go over 250lb..?? Don't you lose condition for more size.
contest weight...discuss
Coleman's first O victory 248 lbs. said he looked his best at this weight.
Yates in 1992 first O 250lb.
Haney  250lb.
Arnold 235lb.
Bannout 215-220lb.
Zane 185-200lb.
Franco 185-200lb.
Levrone 245-250lb.
Flex 220lb. in 1993, 235lb. in 1998.
Ray 215lb. in 1994, 1996.


 

Fuck yah it is, are you crazy!

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2009, 03:29:26 PM »
what Ronnie said doesn't matter

why?

because his opinion changes depending on when you ask him.

eg. in 99 he publicly stated that he was in better condition than in 1998, only with 15 pounds more mass:

http://www.dennisbweis.com/Articles/Colman.html




this is the quote the nuthuggers wish was never uttered.



You're an idiot . you claim what Ronnie says doesn't matter yet you post a quote from him LMFAO


Ronnie was 249 in 1998 and 257 pounds in 1999 HOW is that 15 more pounds? and at the end of the contests guys say they were in better shape than last year but in the end they have to evaluate at the end of their careers and guess what? 1999 wasn't his best Olympia and it wasn't his best showing either

If entertaining his conditioning was better than 1998 with 10 or 15 more pounds of that would be considered his best showing and it's NOT deal with it moron

2001 > 1999

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2009, 03:33:05 PM »
The quote Hulkster wished was never posted  ;)

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2009, 03:33:36 PM »
It is because it's all about the illusion like this shot of Ronnie and Wolf hard to hell Ronnie outweighs him by a healthy margin


its called a camera angle.... son

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2009, 03:36:00 PM »


its called a camera angle.... son

It's called superior structure kid  ;)

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2009, 03:36:50 PM »


ronnie is a bit behind flex and cormier in this pic............... unless flex and cormier have giant heads :)

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2009, 03:39:02 PM »


ronnie is a bit behind flex and cormier in this pic............... unless flex and cormier have giant heads :)

Cormier is more than holding his own in that comparison but his conditioning isn't on par with Ronnie , who's conditioning isn't on par with Ronnie 1998

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2009, 03:42:03 PM »
cormier has great tear drops.... ronnie never had good tear drops.... i like shawn rays legs

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2009, 03:45:26 PM »
cormier has great tear drops.... ronnie never had good tear drops.... i like shawn rays legs

"vastus medialis"

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2009, 03:46:10 PM »
boom!
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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2009, 03:47:11 PM »
 :o

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2009, 03:50:48 PM »
:o

His hams while they showed great detail weren't in proportion with his oversized quads this is evident in profile and was less evident when he was lighter

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2009, 04:16:07 PM »
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you claim what Ronnie says doesn't matter yet you post a quote from him LMFAO

whoosh!!!

that was the obvious point that you missed going right over your head. ::)

YOU keep quoting that Ronnie said that 98 was his best, and I simply showed you (as always) that he has PUBLICLY claimed otherwise.

so you cannot quote what ronnie said use that to 'prove' what his best shape was..since his opinion varies.


can't believe you were stupid enough not to see the point that I was making, after all, it was so bloody obvious..

 ::)
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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2009, 05:11:38 PM »
whoosh!!!

that was the obvious point that you missed going right over your head. ::)

YOU keep quoting that Ronnie said that 98 was his best, and I simply showed you (as always) that he has PUBLICLY claimed otherwise.

so you cannot quote what ronnie said use that to 'prove' what his best shape was..since his opinion varies.


can't believe you were stupid enough not to see the point that I was making, after all, it was so bloody obvious..

 ::)


Moron listen to me it's NOT only Ronnie who is claiming this the general consensus is 1998 was his best Olympia and 2001 was his best showing

and every year a guy will say he's at his best it's not until the end of their careers can they sit down and figure out what was the best showing and in doing this Ronnie said 1998 for the Olympia and Dorian did at the end of his and came up with 1993/1995 which coincides with the rest of the professionals claim


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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2009, 08:48:31 PM »
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and every year a guy will say he's at his best

yes, but with Ronnie there is proof (any vids/pics from both contests) to corroberate what he said. you always forget this.. ::)

and even McGough agrees that 99 was better than 98, since he specifically mentions 99 (not 98) in his article of the 10 best Mr. O's ever.

nice try though ND. you always get owned by me.
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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2009, 05:18:18 AM »
yes, but with Ronnie there is proof (any vids/pics from both contests) to corroberate what he said. you always forget this.. ::)

and even McGough agrees that 99 was better than 98, since he specifically mentions 99 (not 98) in his article of the 10 best Mr. O's ever.

nice try though ND. you always get owned by me.

There are pics and vids clearly showing Ronnie was harder & drier in 1998 than 1999 , you look at the pics and see what you want , case in point ....Ronnie has more detailed calves than Dorian  ::) you know what again? NOTHING

And McGough doesn't say Ronnie was better conditioned in 1999 VS 1998 stop making shit up , just because he said it was better doesn't mean he was better conditioned  ;) in fact in the same article he says 2001 is Ronnie's best . in fact he's remained consistent that Ronnie was better conditioned in his first Olympia which coincides with other professionals have said

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.


Where is 1999? NO WHERE

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

Where is 1999? NO WHERE

review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.  In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.


Stating the obvious

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


ha ha ha " NOT as sharp as 98 " in 99 not as sharp in 00 as in 99 which would seem to say Ronnie is better at a lighter weight


Ronnie what was your best Olympia? Ronnie Coleman: I would say my first because my conditioning was spot-on."

You own shit...you don't know shit and you're proven wrong by me again  ;)




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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2009, 05:25:35 AM »
Ronnie is better than Dorian.

Fact.
No doubt about it...

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2009, 05:33:06 AM »
Ronnie is better than Dorian.

Fact.

No one said anything about Dorian until you did , looks like someone owns your mind  ;)

and Dorian always beat Ronnie

Fact.  ;D  ;)

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2009, 08:20:15 AM »
Haney always beat Dorian, so what.

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Re: BB 250lb conditioned ripped vs BB 250lb-300lb more mass.
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2009, 08:22:55 AM »
Haney always beat Dorian, so what.

Always? Haney faced Dorian ONCE and Dorian beat him in the muscularity round , if Dorian had years like Ronnie did he would have beat Haney that's the difference  ;) thanks for playing though