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Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
While Democrats are making the rounds as keynote speakers across the country, you won't see conservatives making addresses at graduation ceremonies just about anywhere.

FOXNews.com

Friday, May 15, 2009

It's not enough that Democrats have command of some key real estate in Washington. This month, they've also got the ear of just about every college student in the country.

Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and White house chief of staff Rahm Emanuel all have multiple invites to be keynote speakers at graduations this spring.

And while President Obama is pulling a hat trick at Notre Dame, Arizona State and the U.S. Naval Academy, you won't see one of that last institution's most famous graduates on stage anywhere this year.

John McCain ... Sarah Palin ... Mitt Romney ... Rudy Giuliani ... they aren't on anyone's program in 2009. Rush Limbaugh or Newt Gingrich? Persona non grata, thank you very much.

So whatever happened to conservatives?

Education watchdogs say it's nothing strange for conservatives to be shunned from the academy, and that the one-sided invitations have become a permanent fixture of the ivory tower.

"The colleges have been transformed," said David Horowitz, whose organization, Students for Academic Freedom, tracks ideological bias on campus. "They're now these partisan institutions. They're not going to change."

Horowitz ran a study in 2003 that looked at commencement speakers at 32 top institutions in the U.S. for the previous 10 years. He found that liberals and Democrats were favored over conservatives by a ratio of 15-1. And then he stopped counting.

"It's permanent. It's not going to change, partly because there's so little attention being paid to it," he told FOXNews.com.

A few conservatives have gotten invites this year, though you could probably cram them all into a compact car.

Gov. Bobby Jindal will be addressing Loyola University, Louisiana Tech, and Grambling State University, all located in his home state of Louisiana. Sen. Richard Lugar will be the keynote speaker at Ball State University, which is located in his home of Indiana. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, will be addressing USC.

Conservative speakers are often big targets for protest. Students and teachers literally turned their backs on President Bush during his annual addresses, and an English professor even resigned when Condoleezza Rice spoke at Boston College in 2006.

This year hasn't been much of an exception -- and the protests have started well before the pomp and circumstance.

Meg Whitman, the former CEO of eBay who's running for governor of California as a Republican, canceled her speech at UCLA's Anderson School of Management in the wake of protests over her support for Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in the state.

Conservative Ben Stein was uninvited as speaker at the University of Vermont because of his views on evolution. He was replaced by former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean .

J. Harvie Wilkinson, a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals, is facing fire at the University of Virginia Law School, where he'll be speaking May 17. Students have objected to his views on issues like affirmative action and detentions of enemy combatants.

But the furor and froth have gone both ways this year. President Obama's coming address at Notre Dame has set off students and faculty at the Catholic university. And Sen. Bob Casey Jr., a Democrat, withdrew as commencement speaker from St. Vincent's College in Pennsylvania after a Catholic bishop criticized him for his support of funding groups that provide abortions overseas.

Conservatives, whose campus woes look to continue for the foreseeable future, may find a kindred spirit in at least one Cabinet member who seems to have fallen out of favor with the campus crowd.

Notably absent from the stage this year is Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who would seem like a hot property in a year defined by the financial crisis. Geithner, who President Obama joked is being treated like a fire hydrant by the big dogs in Washington, isn't making the rounds at any universities.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/14/conservative-speakers-widely-shunned-graduation-ceremonies/

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 12:43:43 PM »
Not surprising.

Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
While Democrats are making the rounds as keynote speakers across the country, you won't see conservatives making addresses at graduation ceremonies just about anywhere.

FOXNews.com

Friday, May 15, 2009

It's not enough that Democrats have command of some key real estate in Washington. This month, they've also got the ear of just about every college student in the country.

Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and White house chief of staff Rahm Emanuel all have multiple invites to be keynote speakers at graduations this spring.

And while President Obama is pulling a hat trick at Notre Dame, Arizona State and the U.S. Naval Academy, you won't see one of that last institution's most famous graduates on stage anywhere this year.

John McCain ... Sarah Palin ... Mitt Romney ... Rudy Giuliani ... they aren't on anyone's program in 2009. Rush Limbaugh or Newt Gingrich? Persona non grata, thank you very much.

So whatever happened to conservatives?

Education watchdogs say it's nothing strange for conservatives to be shunned from the academy, and that the one-sided invitations have become a permanent fixture of the ivory tower.

"The colleges have been transformed," said David Horowitz, whose organization, Students for Academic Freedom, tracks ideological bias on campus. "They're now these partisan institutions. They're not going to change."

Horowitz ran a study in 2003 that looked at commencement speakers at 32 top institutions in the U.S. for the previous 10 years. He found that liberals and Democrats were favored over conservatives by a ratio of 15-1. And then he stopped counting.

"It's permanent. It's not going to change, partly because there's so little attention being paid to it," he told FOXNews.com.

A few conservatives have gotten invites this year, though you could probably cram them all into a compact car.

Gov. Bobby Jindal will be addressing Loyola University, Louisiana Tech, and Grambling State University, all located in his home state of Louisiana. Sen. Richard Lugar will be the keynote speaker at Ball State University, which is located in his home of Indiana. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, will be addressing USC.

Conservative speakers are often big targets for protest. Students and teachers literally turned their backs on President Bush during his annual addresses, and an English professor even resigned when Condoleezza Rice spoke at Boston College in 2006.

This year hasn't been much of an exception -- and the protests have started well before the pomp and circumstance.

Meg Whitman, the former CEO of eBay who's running for governor of California as a Republican, canceled her speech at UCLA's Anderson School of Management in the wake of protests over her support for Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in the state.

Conservative Ben Stein was uninvited as speaker at the University of Vermont because of his views on evolution. He was replaced by former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean .

J. Harvie Wilkinson, a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals, is facing fire at the University of Virginia Law School, where he'll be speaking May 17. Students have objected to his views on issues like affirmative action and detentions of enemy combatants.

But the furor and froth have gone both ways this year. President Obama's coming address at Notre Dame has set off students and faculty at the Catholic university. And Sen. Bob Casey Jr., a Democrat, withdrew as commencement speaker from St. Vincent's College in Pennsylvania after a Catholic bishop criticized him for his support of funding groups that provide abortions overseas.

Conservatives, whose campus woes look to continue for the foreseeable future, may find a kindred spirit in at least one Cabinet member who seems to have fallen out of favor with the campus crowd.

Notably absent from the stage this year is Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who would seem like a hot property in a year defined by the financial crisis. Geithner, who President Obama joked is being treated like a fire hydrant by the big dogs in Washington, isn't making the rounds at any universities.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/14/conservative-speakers-widely-shunned-graduation-ceremonies/

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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2009, 12:48:44 PM »
Real, fiscal conservatives have been banned from participation. The far right has hijacked the platform and reduced conservatism to a joke with abortion and gay marriage as its punch-line.

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2009, 12:52:39 PM »
Real, fiscal conservatives have been banned from participation. The far right has hijacked the platform and reduced conservatism to a joke with abortion and gay marriage as its punch-line.

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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2009, 12:53:54 PM »
All neoconservatives, either self-professed or by default. Buchanan, RP, these are real conservatives.

What is your definition of "neoconservative"?

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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 12:55:55 PM »
Real, fiscal conservatives have been banned from participation. The far right has hijacked the platform and reduced conservatism to a joke with abortion and gay marriage as its punch-line.

Opposition to homosexual marriage crosses party lines.  Rejected by a 70 percent margin here, and we might have about 100 conservatives in the entire state.   :) 

How do you think abortion has become a punchline for conservatives? 

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 12:57:22 PM »
What is your definition of "neoconservative"?

A neoconservative is someone for big government, big spending, who is invasive on social issues, supports/promotes needless war and overseas spending, against civil liberties, etc.
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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 01:02:14 PM »
A neoconservative is someone for big government, big spending, who invasive on social issues, supports/promotes needless war and overseas spending, against civil liberties, etc.

Thanks.  That's about the third or fourth different definition I've read on the board. 

How is it that McCain, Palin, Romney, and Rudy fall into that category? 

Actually, that sounds an awful lot like Obama:  massive increase in government, big spending, and supporting at least some presence in Iraq and increased presence in Afghanistan.  (Not sure what "invasive on social issues" means.) 

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 01:03:34 PM »
A neoconservative is someone for big government, big spending, who invasive on social issues, supports/promotes needless war and overseas spending, against civil liberties, etc.

I'd add that they're also for blending religion into secular society and even into science.  They like using religion because they know it helps control the dumber members of their party

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 01:04:55 PM »
Thanks.  That's about the third or fourth different definition I've read on the board. 

How is it that McCain, Palin, Romney, and Rudy fall into that category? 

Actually, that sounds an awful lot like Obama:  massive increase in government, big spending, and supporting at least some presence in Iraq and increased presence in Afghanistan.  (Not sure what "invasive on social issues" means.)  

There are many similarities between neoliberals and neoconservatives; they are almost the same thing, just like Bush and Obama are very similar on key issues. Invasive on social issues; drug war, gay marriage, etc.
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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 01:08:14 PM »
There are many similarities between neoliberals and neoconservatives; they are almost the same thing, just like Bush and Obama are very similar on key issues. Invasive on social issues; drug war, gay marriage, etc.

Drug war is bipartisan.  Opposition to homosexual marriage is bipartisan.

But regarding the article, if the parties are so similar, then what's the explanation for the clear bias when it comes to commencement speakers?  I think it's liberal censorship.     

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 01:14:19 PM »
Drug war is bipartisan.  Opposition to homosexual marriage is bipartisan.

But regarding the article, if the parties are so similar, then what's the explanation for the clear bias when it comes to commencement speakers?  I think it's liberal censorship.     

nice conspiracy theory.

it's not difficult to figure out.

most colleges have large #'s of smart people (students and faculty) who have rejected most if not all of what conservatives (I should say neocons) stand for.

There is no "demand" to hear their message. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 01:15:15 PM »
Opposition to homosexual marriage crosses party lines.  Rejected by a 70 percent margin here, and we might have about 100 conservatives in the entire state.   :) 

How do you think abortion has become a punchline for conservatives? 

The problem with becoming a two issue party is that too many people get eliminated.

The entire country has been going to shit for years and all what have conservatives been worrying about? Gay marriage and abortion so the family could be 'protected'. Clinton, outsourcing jobs, NAFTA, GAT, China buying all our debt, two wars, millions of jobs lost, growing the Govt post 911 and they're still pretending gay marriage is the biggest threat to American families.

No freaking jobs is the American family's biggest threat!!

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 01:21:20 PM »
The problem with becoming a two issue party is that too many people get eliminated.

The entire country has been going to shit for years and all what have conservatives been worrying about? Gay marriage and abortion so the family could be 'protected'. Clinton, outsourcing jobs, NAFTA, GAT, China buying all our debt, two wars, millions of jobs lost, growing the Govt post 911 and they're still pretending gay marriage is the biggest threat to American families.

No freaking jobs is the American family's biggest threat!!

The truth just gushing forth with every post; I am not one to praise needlessly but you could have spoken my mind right there. :)
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 01:24:46 PM »
The truth just gushing forth with every post; I am not one to praise needlessly but you could have spoken my mind right there. :)

I also don't believe the lack of gay marriage is an important social/cultural issue.

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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 01:36:42 PM »
I also don't believe the lack of gay marriage is an important social/cultural issue.

Meh, I am indifferent to it. Not important at all compared to all the other stuff going on...for sure.
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2009, 07:46:32 PM »
I'd add that they're also for blending religion into secular society and even into science.  They like using religion because they know it helps control the dumber members of their party
I would disagree with that to some extent.  I'm thinking you might mean particularly gay marriage and abortion, although there might be more to it.  People can be Christian denominations and keep their faith out of it, although some do not.  I can look at abortion from an objective standpoint and think it is wrong to kill a child. 

With gay marriage, I think the socialization of a child has to do with a child's development into a gay person but that is my belief and it has nothing to do with being religious.  I think the basic function of a man and woman is to procreate.  Granted the state of CA has enough illegal Mexicans doing the work for the gay couples but I think it goes against basic nature.  Bisexual tendencies are brought up by many here, including Deicide, and it does beg the question.  There are documented cases of women becoming lesbians after their husbands die and the women will spend their dying days together.  I think the basic question is why can't the term "marriage" be left alone when gay couples enjoy the same rights as straight couples?  In conservative states the civil unions allow for the same rights, at least the ones I have visited.

As for what Deicide said about many neoconservatives, he is right.  Bottom line.  Aside from national security or law enforcement, I wish there was less government going on.  People would have stayed self-sufficient if the government never became their crutch.  Couple that with abuses of government on both sides, you see a very fucked future.
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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2009, 07:56:57 PM »
I can look at abortion from an objective standpoint and think it is wrong to kill a child. 


I agree it's wrong to kill a child. 


With gay marriage, I think the socialization of a child has to do with a child's development into a gay person but that is my belief and it has nothing to do with being religious. 

aren't all gay people the result of straight marriage or at least straight sex?

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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2009, 08:00:36 PM »


I agree it's wrong to kill a child. 


aren't all gay people the result of straight marriage or at least straight sex?
Absolutely; you are correct. 

All I'm saying is that you can be against both of those things without bringing up religion. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 09:05:39 PM »
Absolutely; you are correct. 

All I'm saying is that you can be against both of those things without bringing up religion. 


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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 09:17:29 PM »

right on man

I don't belong to any religion

how about you?
I do but I don't like to throw it in people's faces because I believe that is wrong.  I do think that if people hold a belief because of religion that should not be hypocritical about it when faced with real life.  I do have a problem with the hypocrisy all of us have with religion.  I know many who spout their religious beliefs and then do not practice what they preach.  I know people who claim to dislike abortion, follow a religion that opposes it but justify their abortion.  The list goes on but I say a person should hold a belief and stick to it.  I think it is impossible to remove religion from ones thinking because often religion and morality are tied but people make religion look bad in their actions not their beliefs.  If you took religion out of rhetoric you can still send an effective moral message.  I dislike people forcing religion down people's throats; that is wrong; that is not it's function.  It is not a brainwashing tool and that is what many view it as because of political rhetoric.  Muslims do it, Christians do it, etc.  People preach religion and live terrible lives.  I believe that even if you don't hold a particular religion sacred, you should live a good life.  That is the basic message my religion has, along with others.  My explanation could go on but in the end you should live a good life before you worry about others.  My political beliefs coincide with my religious beliefs but I think the underlying message is morality and goodness.  I disagree with things but I won't tell people they are going to hell if they don't act in a way or believe what I believe.  All men can aspire to goodness.  I hope that makes sense.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2009, 03:30:46 AM »
I would disagree with that to some extent.  I'm thinking you might mean particularly gay marriage and abortion, although there might be more to it.  People can be Christian denominations and keep their faith out of it, although some do not.  I can look at abortion from an objective standpoint and think it is wrong to kill a child. 

With gay marriage, I think the socialization of a child has to do with a child's development into a gay person but that is my belief and it has nothing to do with being religious.  I think the basic function of a man and woman is to procreate.  Granted the state of CA has enough illegal Mexicans doing the work for the gay couples but I think it goes against basic nature.  Bisexual tendencies are brought up by many here, including Deicide, and it does beg the question.  There are documented cases of women becoming lesbians after their husbands die and the women will spend their dying days together.  I think the basic question is why can't the term "marriage" be left alone when gay couples enjoy the same rights as straight couples?  In conservative states the civil unions allow for the same rights, at least the ones I have visited.

As for what Deicide said about many neoconservatives, he is right.  Bottom line.  Aside from national security or law enforcement, I wish there was less government going on.  People would have stayed self-sufficient if the government never became their crutch.  Couple that with abuses of government on both sides, you see a very fucked future.


Does this include maintaining a trillion+ dollar overseas empire? THAT has NOTHING to do with national security.
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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2009, 05:54:11 AM »

 All men can aspire to goodness.  I hope that makes sense.


...what about women? Don't we count too? ...or are we just for making babies?  ???
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Re: Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2009, 06:27:23 AM »
Not surprising at all.

The majority of mainstream America population has no interest in conservatives and their out of touch message.

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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2009, 07:46:34 AM »
Not surprising at all.

The majority of mainstream America population has no interest in conservatives and their out of touch message.

Academia, where liberals predominate, are not going to invite conservative speakers.  How hard is this to understand.

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