Conservative Speakers Widely Shunned at Graduation Ceremonies

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Academia, where liberals predominate, are not going to invite conservative speakers.  How hard is this to understand.

Those who can do, do, those who cant  . . . .teach.

But as it was mentioned in the beginning, none of the people in BB's arsenal are conservatives. They are far right relgious wackos and big spenders, warmongers and liars.

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But as it was mentioned in the beginning, none of the people in BB's arsenal are conservatives. They are far right relgious wackos and big spenders, warmongers and liars.

Why not get successful entrprenuers as speakers to tellt hese kids what it takes to succeed?

I would rather hear from Michael Bloomberg how he started his company and got started than some liberal nut who rails against America.

Additionally, if I were graduating with massive $$$$ loans and ZERO told me to go work for a not for profit, I would probably puke. 

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...what about women? Don't we count too? ...or are we just for making babies? 

Haha, no you are all like Eve...evil!  Jk, no all PEOPLE can aspire to goodness.

Why not get successful entrprenuers as speakers to tellt hese kids what it takes to succeed?

I would rather hear from Michael Bloomberg how he started his company and got started than some liberal nut who rails against America.

Additionally, if I were graduating with massive $$$$ loans and ZERO told me to go work for a not for profit, I would probably puke. 

Not to mention that Barry is carrying on Bush's policies but in worse ways and with more spending.  The idiots in college are too stupid to recognize that.  They think he is all about change.

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Far-right repubs refuse to change their party platform.  Instead, they want the country to chaneg.

Many more moderate repubs believe by accepting and embracing the middle-of-road social voters with right-leaning fiscal beliefs, they can win some senate seats back.

Guys like Cheney, however, don't want this.
Guys like Crist and Ridge do.

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Why not get successful entrprenuers as speakers to tellt hese kids what it takes to succeed?

I would rather hear from Michael Bloomberg how he started his company and got started than some liberal nut who rails against America.

Additionally, if I were graduating with massive $$$$ loans and ZERO told me to go work for a not for profit, I would probably puke. 

Bloomberg might be rich but he is lying scum like most of them.

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Bloomberg might be rich but he is lying scum like most of them.

On the business side, the man is a genius. 

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On the business side, the man is a genius. 

So what? What good does that do if he is a lying scumbag like most politicians?

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If I have a choice between a liar who has accomplishments like Bloomberg, or a liar like Zero - I will take Bloomberg.

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If I have a choice between a liar who has accomplishments like Bloomberg, or a liar like Zero - I will take Bloomberg.

Sure but there are people with principles out there

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Excerpt from Richard Posner's latest blog entry:

My theme is the intellectual decline of conservatism, and it is notable that the policies of the new conservatism are powered largely by emotion and religion and have for the most part weak intellectual groundings. That the policies are weak in conception, have largely failed in execution, and are political flops is therefore unsurprising. The major blows to conservatism, culminating in the election and programs of Obama, have been fourfold: the failure of military force to achieve U.S. foreign policy objectives; the inanity of trying to substitute will for intellect, as in the denial of global warming, the use of religious criteria in the selection of public officials, the neglect of management and expertise in government; a continued preoccupation with abortion; and fiscal incontinence in the form of massive budget deficits, the Medicare drug plan, excessive foreign borrowing, and asset-price inflation.

By the fall of 2008, the face of the Republican Party had become Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Conservative intellectuals had no party.

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Bloomberg might be rich but he is lying scum like most of them.

I'm pretty familiar with Bloomberg..what has he said or done that makes him a lying scum? Because he's successful and has entered politics.. and is not of the liberal persuasion..that makes him scum? I'm sure you probably believe his wealth should be confiscated and redistributed to the more useless factions of society..Of course this worked so well in Cuba. That's why people for years have risked their lives to come to the U.S.

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Excerpt from Richard Posner's latest blog entry:

My theme is the intellectual decline of conservatism, and it is notable that the policies of the new conservatism are powered largely by emotion and religion and have for the most part weak intellectual groundings. That the policies are weak in conception, have largely failed in execution, and are political flops is therefore unsurprising. The major blows to conservatism, culminating in the election and programs of Obama, have been fourfold: the failure of military force to achieve U.S. foreign policy objectives; the inanity of trying to substitute will for intellect, as in the denial of global warming, the use of religious criteria in the selection of public officials, the neglect of management and expertise in government; a continued preoccupation with abortion; and fiscal incontinence in the form of massive budget deficits, the Medicare drug plan, excessive foreign borrowing, and asset-price inflation.

By the fall of 2008, the face of the Republican Party had become Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Conservative intellectuals had no party.

He is correct.  I personally feel the GOP needs to radically and rapidly move in the RP and Peter Schiff mold as opposed to the squishy nonsense from people like McLame, Grahm, etc.  

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I'm pretty familiar with Bloomberg..what has he said or done that makes him a lying scum? Because he's successful and has entered politics.. and is not of the liberal persuasion..that makes him scum? I'm sure you probably believe his wealth should be confiscated and redistributed to the more useless factions of society..Of course this worked so well in Cuba. That's why people for years have risked their lives to come to the U.S.

Do you read what I post? I am likely more conservative than you are. Why don't you read the things I post before imputing garbage to me like the crap you wrote above.

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If I have a choice between a liar who has accomplishments like Bloomberg, or a liar like Zero - I will take Bloomberg.

George Soros is worth a lot more than Bloomy.

Wil you be voting soros in 2012?

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Excerpt from Richard Posner's latest blog entry:

My theme is the intellectual decline of conservatism, and it is notable that the policies of the new conservatism are powered largely by emotion and religion and have for the most part weak intellectual groundings. That the policies are weak in conception, have largely failed in execution, and are political flops is therefore unsurprising. The major blows to conservatism, culminating in the election and programs of Obama, have been fourfold: the failure of military force to achieve U.S. foreign policy objectives; the inanity of trying to substitute will for intellect, as in the denial of global warming, the use of religious criteria in the selection of public officials, the neglect of management and expertise in government; a continued preoccupation with abortion; and fiscal incontinence in the form of massive budget deficits, the Medicare drug plan, excessive foreign borrowing, and asset-price inflation.

By the fall of 2008, the face of the Republican Party had become Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Conservative intellectuals had no party.

Sad but true SM.  I saw Palin as a means to secure some female voters and the Religious Right, and she screwed the pooch.  Romney would have been a better choice.  Palin needed another 4-8 years of experience, period.  She had about the same experience as Barry but she just came off as an idiot, he did not.  The Republican party doesn't realize that it can still value Christian beliefs without alienating others throughout the country.  I did not like anyone I saw running in the Republican Party.  McCain was simply a lesser of two evils for me in the National election.  He has more experience and I do not support Barry's social policies.  The Republican party needs a strong confident voice, not someone who comes off as a nutjob.  Rush is right though.  The Republican Party needs to stop apologizing for its beliefs and use them as a tool to get elected again.  It is possible but the right message coming out of the wrong mouth(s) is not helping.

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Sad but true SM.  I saw Palin as a means to secure some female voters and the Religious Right, and she screwed the pooch.  Romney would have been a better choice.  Palin needed another 4-8 years of experience, period.  She had about the same experience as Barry but she just came off as an idiot, he did not.  The Republican party doesn't realize that it can still value Christian beliefs without alienating others throughout the country.  I did not like anyone I saw running in the Republican Party.  McCain was simply a lesser of two evils for me in the National election.  He has more experience and I do not support Barry's social policies.  The Republican party needs a strong confident voice, not someone who comes off as a nutjob.  Rush is right though.  The Republican Party needs to stop apologizing for its beliefs and use them as a tool to get elected again.  It is possible but the right message coming out of the wrong mouth(s) is not helping.

Rush is wrong. The Republican party needs to find its beliefs and apologize for abandoning true conservatism and adopting a two topic (Gay marriage & abortion) platform.

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Rush is wrong. The Republican party needs to find its beliefs and apologize for abandoning true conservatism and adopting a two topic (Gay marriage & abortion) platform.

Good point, but I believe a real economic conservative who has more than an econ 101 understanding of $$$$, who can articulate the hazards of liberal economic policy is the ticket to winning as well.

Most of the fools in the GOP have ZERO economic experience and understanding.   

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Rush is wrong. The Republican party needs to find its beliefs and apologize for abandoning true conservatism and adopting a two topic (Gay marriage & abortion) platform.

Spot on.

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Good point, but I believe a real economic conservative who has more than an econ 101 understanding of $$$$, who can articulate the hazards of liberal economic policy is the ticket to winning as well.

Most of the fools in the GOP have ZERO economic experience and understanding.   

Is they were antiwar as well they would gain a tremendous following.

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Rush and Cheney keep saying the country needs to change.

it's not going to.  People aren't going to start practicing abstinence tomorrow.  The repubs have to soften positions just a little - and accept the moderates it keeps pushing away.  imagine Charlie Crist jumping to the Dem party about 5 minutes after winning the FL Senate seat in 2010 so that he can drive a lot more $ to his state.

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Rush is wrong. The Republican party needs to find its beliefs and apologize for abandoning true conservatism and adopting a two topic (Gay marriage & abortion) platform.

I don't think they should abandon those topics necessarily but Rush has even said that the Republican party needs to go back to its roots but they keep changing a lot of things to get elected; basically they are telling the people what they want to hear.  Conservatives are not what they used to be.  I see very little different between political ideologies at this point, so you are right.  Fiscal conservatism could go a long way in getting people elected but try explaining that to this country.  Good points guys.

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I don't think they should abandon those topics necessarily but Rush has even said that the Republican party needs to go back to its roots but they keep changing a lot of things to get elected; basically they are telling the people what they want to hear.  Conservatives are not what they used to be.  I see very little different between political ideologies at this point, so you are right.  Fiscal conservatism could go a long way in getting people elected but try explaining that to this country.  Good points guys.

For those in charge of the party's direction conservatism boils down to those two issues. Unless this changes, nothing else will.

The last fiscal conservative was probably executed on 9/12/2001. Republicans are all big Govt now and spend worse than liberal democrats could ever dare dream.

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For those in charge of the party's direction conservatism boils down to those two issues. Unless this changes, nothing else will.

The last fiscal conservative was probably executed on 9/12/2001. Republicans are all big Govt now and spend worse than liberal democrats could ever dare dream.

You are right.  I don't see much difference aside from those two issues.  We need to cut domestic spending and really we can win our conflicts without the massive amounts of troops we have.  I think a large scale operation in Iraq is okay, based on what those better informed have told me, but as far as Afghanistan goes...conventional troops are just not made for that type of conflict.  Any book I have ever read on Afghanistan shows that.  The Soviet Army learned that the hard way.  This may not be what lobbyists want but it's a lot cheaper to trained hardened Afghans to fight than to expect conventional units to embrace the culture and do more than patrol.  350 SF and 100 CIA operatives took the Stan in a little over 2 months.  Think about it.  I don't oppose large scale warfare over there because of the human element but based on what I have been told, it is not tactically sound.

On the domestic front the politicians do what the lobbyists want in order to get reelected.  I doubt but a handful of politicians in DC care what the people want.  We don't want illegals, we want less taxes, we want less poor, better education, etc.  The means to go about these things are very simple but neither side will do what truly needs to be done.

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You are right.  I don't see much difference aside from those two issues.  We need to cut domestic spending and really we can win our conflicts without the massive amounts of troops we have.  I think a large scale operation in Iraq is okay, based on what those better informed have told me, but as far as Afghanistan goes...conventional troops are just not made for that type of conflict.  Any book I have ever read on Afghanistan shows that.  The Soviet Army learned that the hard way.  This may not be what lobbyists want but it's a lot cheaper to trained hardened Afghans to fight than to expect conventional units to embrace the culture and do more than patrol.  350 SF and 100 CIA operatives took the Stan in a little over 2 months.  Think about it.  I don't oppose large scale warfare over there because of the human element but based on what I have been told, it is not tactically sound.

On the domestic front the politicians do what the lobbyists want in order to get reelected.  I doubt but a handful of politicians in DC care what the people want.  We don't want illegals, we want less taxes, we want less poor, better education, etc.  The means to go about these things are very simple but neither side will do what truly needs to be done.

We should cut spending everywhere and overseas should be the first place we do it, not the other way around.

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We should cut spending everywhere and overseas should be the first place we do it, not the other way around.

Whatever's clever dude.  It needs to happen though.