what was the purpose of WWII

[2ND COMING]

Religion, whilst traditionally attributed to the realm of faith and the 'spirtual' is little more than doctrine, dogma and the blind adherence thereto; inasmuch as this is true, secular religions abound and Stalinism as well as National Socialism were simply members of that secular group of religions.

mexicans

[Deedee]

No, it's like this, Deedee:  Stalin was not a Christian.  Stalin was an atheist and anti-religion murderer who killed millions of innocent people.  If it were true that he was a Christian as a child and then later became an atheist and a murderer, then you are admitting that it would have been better for him to remain a Christian.

People who love to vilify Christianity will blame all of the world's atrocities on Christians no matter what, even the many atrocities committed by atheists such as Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.   

tu_holmes is wrong, and so are you.

Occasionally people read a book. In your case being internet educated is everything. Oh well, if it makes you feel good to be ignorant, then so be it. Go in peace you drama queen, nonsense-spewing lovely. 

[loco]

Occasionally people read a book. In your case being internet educated is everything. Oh well, if it makes you feel good to be ignorant, then so be it. Go in peace you drama queen, nonsense-spewing lovely. 

You are the only one here spewing nonsense and showing your obsession with vilifying Christianity.  I don't believe that you are ignorant in this case, just dishonest.  Stalin a Christian.   

[spotter]

what do you think?
don't say annihilating Jews.

Was the purpose of WWII to eliminate nation states?

The purpose was to kill time, until the Korean War..

[Deicide]

You are the only one here spewing nonsense and showing your obsession with vilifying Christianity.  I don't believe that you are ignorant in this case, just dishonest.  Stalin a Christian.   

Stalin was heavily indoctrinated in the Eastern Orthodox church.

[IFBBwannaB]

Occasionally people read a book. In your case being internet educated is everything. Oh well, if it makes you feel good to be ignorant, then so be it. Go in peace you drama queen, nonsense-spewing lovely. 

You assume that reading books is a better way to get educated than the internet? That's an unbelievably stupid claim.

Besides the fact that books are usually written with the writer agenda being them, on the internet you can easily cross reference and verify but by reading books you can spend months getting to the bottom of something that will take you 10minutes using the internet.

Furthermore, unless you speak of science books most books are pretty useless, some story that someone who had nothing to do wrote or some historical book that was written from a biased writer viewpoint  .

You live in 1605, Stalin was far from Christian and tu_holmes is quite the ignorant hypocrate.

Good day 

[Deicide]

mexicans

Yup.

[loco]

You assume that reading books is a better way to get educated than the internet? That's an unbelievably stupid claim.

Besides the fact that books are usually written with the writer agenda being them, on the internet you can easily cross reference and verify but by reading books you can spend months getting to the bottom of something that will take you 10minutes using the internet.

Furthermore, unless you speak of science books most books are pretty useless, some story that someone who had nothing to do wrote or some historical book that was written from a biased writer viewpoint  .

You live in 1605, Stalin was far from Christian and tu_holmes is quite the ignorant hypocrate.

Good day 

I think Deedee knows that I have a bachelors degree from an American State University and that I have read many books and continue to read them on a regular basis.

Deedee is just an angry, anti-Christian nut job who resorts to insults to my intelligence and to my education when she has nothing better to say.

These anti-Christian atheists don't want to claim Stalin because he and other murderous atheists such as Mao and Pol Pot are an embarrassment to them, and they should be.  But they don't want to admit it and take responsibility. 

These anti-Christians got called out on their lie that Stalin was a Christian.  But now they are changing their story and saying that he was an atheist, but that all the atrocities he committed as an atheist are still attributed to his alleged childhood Christian upbringing.   

Deedee, had Stalin had an atheist upbringing and had he become a Christian in his adult life, would you be blaming his atrocities on his atheist upbringing?  No, you would still blame his adulthood Christianity instead of his childhood atheism. 

[Deicide]

I think Deedee knows that I have a bachelors degree from an American State University and that I have read many books and continue to read them on a regular basis.

Deedee is just an angry, anti-Christian nut job who resorts to insults to my intelligence and to my education when she has nothing better to say.

These anti-Christian atheists don't want to claim Stalin because he and other murderous atheists such as Mao and Pol Pot are an embarrassment to them, and they should be.  But they don't want to admit it and take responsibility. 

These anti-Christians got called out on their lie that Stalin was a Christian.  But now they are changing their story and saying that he was an atheist, but that all the atrocities he committed as an atheist are still attributed to his alleged childhood Christian upbringing.   

Deedee, had Stalin had an atheist upbringing and had he become a Christian in his adult life, would you be blaming his atrocities on his atheist upbringing?  No, you would still blame his adulthood Christianity instead of his childhood atheism. 

Deedee is the great. One of the few women I actually like (want to marry).

BUT anyway we have been over this a million times; atheism is not a doctrine or philosophy, you cannot have an 'atheist' upbringing. That is total gibberish. There are no doctrines and principles in atheism BUT there are such things, very much explicitly, in religion.

[loco]

Deedee is the great. One of the few women I actually like (want to marry).

You say that Colossus scares you only because he is a Christian, but Deedee doesn't scare you?  Deedee has said that, like Stalin, she had Christian upbringing and now she is an atheist.  By her comments about Stalin, you would think that she is now having murderous thoughts.  And you want to marry her?

BUT anyway we have been over this a million times; atheism is not a doctrine or philosophy, you cannot have an 'atheist' upbringing. That is total gibberish. There are no doctrines and principles in atheism BUT there are such things, very much explicitly, in religion.

I could be mistaken, but I thought you had repeatedly said that you had an atheist upbringing.

[IFBBwannaB]

Deedee is the great. One of the few women I actually like (want to marry).

BUT anyway we have been over this a million times; atheism is not a doctrine or philosophy, you cannot have an 'atheist' upbringing. That is total gibberish. There are no doctrines and principles in atheism BUT there are such things, very much explicitly, in religion.

Who is we and why do you think that the opinion of the  "we" group that you speak of matters?

There is one specific doctrine to atheism which is that there is no invisible being, saying that religion is far more defined is rubbish, I can't think of two people in the world who have the exact religious beliefs.
Religion is mostly individual, or at least should be, I take very lightly all those mambo jambo rituals that embodies religion today.

[Deicide]

You say that Colossus scares you only because he is a Christian, but Deedee doesn't scare you?  Deedee has said that, like Stalin, she had Christian upbringing and now she is an atheist.  By her comments about Stalin, you would think that she is now having murderous thoughts.  And you want to marry her?

I could be mistaken, but I thought you had repeatedly said that you had an atheist upbringing.

You are very mistaken. I never used the term 'atheist' upbringing. I said I was raised in a household without religion without any additional information.

[Deicide]

You say that Colossus scares you only because he is a Christian, but Deedee doesn't scare you?  Deedee has said that, like Stalin, she had Christian upbringing and now she is an atheist.  By her comments about Stalin, you would think that she is now having murderous thoughts.  And you want to marry her?

I could be mistaken, but I thought you had repeatedly said that you had an atheist upbringing.

Colossus scares me because he is big, unthinking and a devout zombie.

[loco]

You are very mistaken. I never used the term 'atheist' upbringing. I said I was raised in a household without religion without any additional information.

For the sake of my question to Deedee about Stalin, this makes no difference...atheist upbringing, Godless upbringing, whatever.

[loco]

Colossus scares me because he is big, unthinking and a devout zombie.

Would Stalin not have scared you, had he been an acquaintance of yours?  Stalin was none of those things you say Colossus is.

[Deicide]

For the sake of my question to Deedee about Stalin, this makes no difference...atheist upbringing, Godless upbringing, whatever.

My point is that atheism has no inherent doctrine whereas Christianity does.

[tu_holmes]

You assume that reading books is a better way to get educated than the internet? That's an unbelievably stupid claim.

Besides the fact that books are usually written with the writer agenda being them, on the internet you can easily cross reference and verify but by reading books you can spend months getting to the bottom of something that will take you 10minutes using the internet.

Furthermore, unless you speak of science books most books are pretty useless, some story that someone who had nothing to do wrote or some historical book that was written from a biased writer viewpoint  .

You live in 1605, Stalin was far from Christian and tu_holmes is quite the ignorant hypocrate.

Good day 

Do I owe you rent for taking up space in your mind?

You can't go 10 posts without mentioning me... I'm hardly a hypocrite, but you label whatever you want. You seem to think you know an awful lot about me, when in fact, you do not.

[IFBBwannaB]

Do I owe you rent for taking up space in your mind?

You can't go 10 posts without mentioning me... I'm hardly a hypocrite, but you label whatever you want. You seem to think you know an awful lot about me, when in fact, you do not.

Aren't you full of yourself, you came into this thread and spew shit, I was subscribed to this thread so I replied to your ridiculous claims. Your hypocrisy was shown in other threads and you have to live with being such a person not me.

So still not one condemnation of Hussein....even though he specifically support things you oppose...

[tu_holmes]

Aren't you full of yourself, you came into this thread and spew shit, I was subscribed to this thread so I replied to your ridiculous claims. Your hypocrisy was shown in other threads and you have to live with being such a person not me.

So still not one condemnation of Hussein....even though he specifically support things you oppose...

What does he oppose specifically that I'm supposed to condemn him on? His spending? Sure, I hate it, but I understand why he's doing it... look at where we are... Look at what he was left with on day 1.

What else has he said specifically that I need condemn him on? Just because I'm not jumping up and down shouting how evil the POTUS is, apparently that's a big deal to you.

Why?

What shit did I spew? I looked around and saw that Stalin was raised as a Christian, you disagree?

[IFBBwannaB]

What does he oppose specifically that I'm supposed to condemn him on? His spending? Sure, I hate it, but I understand why he's doing it... look at where we are... Look at what he was left with on day 1.

What else has he said specifically that I need condemn him on? Just because I'm not jumping up and down shouting how evil the POTUS is, apparently that's a big deal to you.

Why?

What shit did I spew? I looked around and saw that Stalin was raised as a Christian, you disagree?

You took the time to get into some of the gay military threads and gay marriage yet haven't said a word about the fact that your holly Obama are 100% opposed on those matters. I think it also happend in Iraq/Afghanistan threads.

You said Stalin was a Christian and afterward justified it by saying that anyone who sat in bible class is deep into religion 

[Deicide]

You took the time to get into some of the gay military threads and gay marriage yet haven't said a word about the fact that your holly Obama are 100% opposed on those matters. I think it also happend in Iraq/Afghanistan threads.

You said Stalin was a Christian and afterward justified it by saying that anyone who sat in bible class is deep into religion 

Do you have good genetics?

[tu_holmes]

You took the time to get into some of the gay military threads and gay marriage yet haven't said a word about the fact that your holly Obama are 100% opposed on those matters. I think it also happend in Iraq/Afghanistan threads.

You said Stalin was a Christian and afterward justified it by saying that anyone who sat in bible class is deep into religion 

This is where you are ridiculous... My point, as most people get, is that Stalin was heavily influenced by the Christian religion during his upbringing... Just like a person of Jewish decent is influenced by Judaism.

The ultimate point I was making was that he was not a Jew as someone else stated, but apparently that escaped you.

As far as Obama is concerned...

Do I think Don't ask don't tell is the correct thing? Yes. I don't see why anyone would go around proclaiming their gayness in the first place.

Do I support gay marriage, yes... but I don't think that Obama is a problem for not agreeing with me. A lot of people don't agree with me.

What's your point about that?

Iraq and Afghanistan? Well, I'm all for getting out of Iraq and I think Obama should do what he said and get us out... However, I'm very good with finishing the job in Afghanistan.

What's your point you're trying to make there?

I don't agree with a lot of shit a lot of people say or do, but I don't see what's hypocritical about that.

According to you I should hate Obama because he doesn't do every  single thing I like... That's stupid.

[Deicide]

This is where you are ridiculous... My point, as most people get, is that Stalin was heavily influenced by the Christian religion during his upbringing... Just like a person of Jewish decent is influenced by Judaism.

The ultimate point I was making was that he was not a Jew as someone else stated, but apparently that escaped you.

As far as Obama is concerned...

Do I think Don't ask don't tell is the correct thing? Yes. I don't see why anyone would go around proclaiming their gayness in the first place.

Do I support gay marriage, yes... but I don't think that Obama is a problem for not agreeing with me. A lot of people don't agree with me.

What's your point about that?

Iraq and Afghanistan? Well, I'm all for getting out of Iraq and I think Obama should do what he said and get us out... However, I'm very good with finishing the job in Afghanistan.

What's your point you're trying to make there?

I don't agree with a lot of shit a lot of people say or do, but I don't see what's hypocritical about that.

According to you I should hate Obama because he doesn't do every  single thing I like... That's stupid.

Do you have good genetics?

[Fury]

Do you have good genetics?

Do you have to shit up every thread with your insecure bullshit? Go outside for fuck's sake.

[tu_holmes]

Do you have good genetics?

I really have no idea what it is you're asking?

I mean, I'm pretty healthy and I don't get sick or have any ailments... No history of heart disease, diabetes, or anything like that.

I guess they're ok... I don't get the point of the question though.