World economy stabilizing: Krugman

[Deicide]

Why is it that you feel the need to go into my profile and respond to every post I've made in the last 12 hours every time I insult you? Move on with your life, you lying shill.

Because you are a bully, kid asshole. If you weren't so malicious there would be no need for it. When you stop, I too shall stop.

[Fury]

Because you are a bully, kid asshole. If you weren't so malicious there would be no need for it. When you stop, I too shall stop.

I've been attacking you because I'm tired of reading your depression-laced posts. This is an internet forum and nothing more. I'm not "bullying" you. It's a forum that has been polluted recently with your incessant moaning and bitching about how "woe is me" your life is right now. I'm tired of reading about it in every fucking thread. Your "you=samoan=great genetics" posts amount to nothing more than trolling. Much like you spam bombing every thread you don't like with pictures of Mexican food with the intent of derailing the threads.

Go work your thesis you miserable crybaby.

[Deicide]

I've been attacking you because I'm tired of reading your depression-laced posts. This is an internet forum and nothing more. I'm not "bullying" you. It's a forum that has been polluted recently with your incessant moaning and bitching about how "woe is me" your life is right now. I'm tired of reading about it in every fucking thread. Your "you=samoan=great genetics" posts amount to nothing more than trolling. Much like you spam bombing every thread you don't like with pictures of Mexican food with the intent of derailing the threads.

Go work your thesis you miserable crybaby.

As opposed to the content of your posts, 90% of which are composed of little more than one liners and insults. In contrast to you I occasionally post things with real content and have real discussion. As I said:

You are god

[Fury]

As opposed to the content of your posts, 90% of which are composed of little more than one liners and insults. In contrast to you I occasionally post things with real content and have real discussion. As I said:

You are god

People like you really piss me off. People who don't realize how good they have it. Here you are, a guy who is only 31 years old, college educated and healthy, bitching about how bad you've got it. Even fortunate enough to be able to go back to school to earn a Masters. It's pathetic. There are millions of people out there who would give everything they have to be in your position. Yet the best you can do is spam bomb a forum 300 times a day about how bad you've got it.

"Waaah, I have bad genetics." At least you can walk and work out. Your willpower and lack of confidence is embarrassing.

[Deicide]

People like you really piss me off. People who don't realize how good they have it. Here you are, a guy who is only 31 years old, college educated and healthy, bitching about how bad you've got it. Even fortunate enough to be able to go back to school to earn a Masters. It's pathetic. There are millions of people out there who would give everything they have to be in your position. Yet the best you can do is spam bomb a forum 300 times a day about how bad you've got it.

"Waaah, I have bad genetics." At least you can walk and work out. Your willpower and lack of confidence is embarrassing.

You make it seem like all that was handed to me for free. I worked 3 years with NO SINGLE VACATION so I could save for my MA. Fortunate? Perhaps, but 100% due to my hard work and whatever extra fortune was added.

As for the genetics...that is merely a factual statement. I have piss poor bbing genetics.

[Fury]

You make it seem like all that was handed to me for free. I worked 3 years with NO SINGLE VACATION so I could save for my MA. Fortunate? Perhaps, but 100% due to my hard work and whatever extra fortune was added.

As for the genetics...that is merely a factual statement. I have piss poor bbing genetics.

So what? 99% of people out there have shit bodybuilding genetics. They make the best of what they got. Hell, I'm a little over 6'1 and lanky. I'm not built for bodybuilding at all. You crying about it in every thread on this forum is a major annoyance and makes you look like an insecure bitch.

[shootfighter1]

I think the article Deicide quoted is an interesting perspective (and possibility).  The decline of power of several countries/great civilizations came about because of economic collapse.

We cannot and should not allow our government to continue its massive deficit spending.

[shootfighter1]

There are two separate events here.  One is coming out of our current recession, which is likely to happen by the end of this year.  The second is the overall economic status of the USA in relation to the world.  I think there is a very good possibility that our economic superpower status is slipping.
Excessive spending, excessive taxation of business, increased unionization and regulations that increase the cost of producing goods & services, things like cap and trade, increased debt interest in relation to GDP...all of these are troubling signs.

[Deicide]

I think the article Deicide quoted is an interesting perspective (and possibility).  The decline of power of several countries/great civilizations came about because of economic collapse.

We cannot and should not allow our government to continue its massive deficit spending.

In the mid 20th century there was an interesting theory brought about the stages of civilisation by Carroll Quigley, a prominent historian. He talks about the empire stage and the end stages of the empire stage itself. Many prominent scholars believe the American empire is in its death throes, that is the stage where empires merely lash out and try to take with them what they can. It is no where written in the stars that the American empire continues forever.

http://www.draftymanor.com/bart/h_quigl3.htm

6. Decay
Once it becomes clear that the bulk of a civilization's wealth has been used up, the decline is usually mercifully swift. "Mercifully," because this is a period of great distress.

During this time, as recognition of the civilization's poverty spreads, the standard of living falls quickly. Law and order break down. Civil unrest sparks protests, some of which turn violent. Taxes cannot be collected, and other forms of public service such as military service (and military actions themselves) are resisted. Property cannot be protected except (if at all) by force. Personal violence becomes a daily occurrence. Trade fails, as fraud can no longer be punished. Town life fails; basic survival needs force people into the country where they can grow food, and the "middle class" disappears. Religious revivals sweep the land. The medical technology that sustains life becomes difficult or impossible to obtain, resulting in high rates of infant mortality and shortened lifespans. Finally, literacy itself fails.

[Fury]

In the mid 20th century there was an interesting theory brought about the stages of civilisation by Carroll Quigley, a prominent historian. He talks about the empire stage and the end stages of the empire stage itself. Many prominent scholars believe the American empire is in its death throes, that is the stage where empires merely lash out and try to take with them what they can. It is no where written in the stars that the American empire continues forever.

http://www.draftymanor.com/bart/h_quigl3.htm

6. Decay
Once it becomes clear that the bulk of a civilization's wealth has been used up, the decline is usually mercifully swift. "Mercifully," because this is a period of great distress.

During this time, as recognition of the civilization's poverty spreads, the standard of living falls quickly. Law and order break down. Civil unrest sparks protests, some of which turn violent. Taxes cannot be collected, and other forms of public service such as military service (and military actions themselves) are resisted. Property cannot be protected except (if at all) by force. Personal violence becomes a daily occurrence. Trade fails, as fraud can no longer be punished. Town life fails; basic survival needs force people into the country where they can grow food, and the "middle class" disappears. Religious revivals sweep the land. The medical technology that sustains life becomes difficult or impossible to obtain, resulting in high rates of infant mortality and shortened lifespans. Finally, literacy itself fails.

There are also many scholars that see US power increasing over the next century.

[Deicide]

There are also many scholars that see US power increasing over the next century.

Really? Do you have any links?

How could that be possible and how is US power defined?

[shootfighter1]

I'd like to see the writings of scholars that think the US will become more powerful....this does not seem to be the case and prominent economists have warned of the emergence of several economic superpowers battling the US for dominance.  Then you have a % of liberals who believe its not right for American to be economically dominant.

[Deicide]

I'd like to see the writings of scholars that think the US will become more powerful....this does not seem to be the case and prominent economists have warned of the emergence of several economic superpowers battling the US for dominance.  Then you have a % of liberals who believe its not right for American to be economically dominant.

It is just a matter of historical precedent. Every major empire of the past went bankrupt and fell so it would be foolish to think that the USA is an exception.

[Bindare_Dundat]

You seem butt hurt that no one pays attention to the 12 doom and gloom economics articles you have copy/pasted every day for the last 8 months, none of which have come true. Sorry but your credibility was annihilated when Benny exposed you for a keyboard jockey economist with no grasp of finance.

But feel free to keep insinuating that you're more intelligent than Krugman.

hahaha

Yeah, I got destroyed. You and Benny  fill this board with wisdom.   Only one person (Neuro), warned us about the crisis and Benny was a dick in that thread too. You're just like him, no one else can be right.

How could all "my predictions" be wrong when all I did was post articles of other people's opinions of very real possiblities and most have come true, don't blame me if you're too stupid to read. I think the only thing I predicted was that we would see another big downturn in the stock market over the next 5 months, no other specifics.

Stimulus I & II, ESSA, TARP I & II, TALF, PIPP, $12+ TRILLION in Buddy Banking/Corporate BAILOUT,

Exploding Debt Threatens America
- Financial Times
5/27/2009
Meltdown 101: Deficits Raise Financing Worries
- Associated Press
5/27/2009
U.S. ‘Problem’ Banks Rise to 305, Highest Since 94'
- Bloomberg
5/27/2009
GM Says Bondholder Offer Fails; B'Ruptcy Likely
- Associated Press
5/27/2009
IRS Tax Revenue Falls Along with Taxpayers' Income
- USA Today
5/27/2009
Credit Scores Fall as People Struggle to Pay Bills
- USA Today
5/27/2009
Recession Imperils Loan Forgiveness Programs
- New York Times
5/27/2009
Many Modified Mortgages Will Default Again
- Chicago Tribune
5/27/2009
Manhattan Is Awash in Sublet Office Space
- New York Times
5/27/2009
Top-Rated Comm Mortgage Debt May Face Cuts
- Bloomberg



yup, just everyday business, nothing to see here.