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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #275 on: June 02, 2009, 02:54:34 AM »


holy shit thats impressive

no doubt about it

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #276 on: June 02, 2009, 02:59:28 AM »
Impressive calves + Shitty arms   8)
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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #277 on: June 02, 2009, 03:02:21 AM »
Ronnie was better. No need to even debate it.
No doubt about it...

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #278 on: June 02, 2009, 03:30:47 AM »
Impressive calves + Shitty arms   8)
typical levrone fan...

all about arms

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #279 on: June 02, 2009, 03:34:43 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #280 on: June 02, 2009, 03:35:11 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #281 on: June 02, 2009, 05:03:28 AM »
typical levrone fan...

all about arms

so what is the typical Dorian fan ..?

Back & calves nothing else
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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #282 on: June 02, 2009, 06:08:33 AM »
You're ignorance falls short again and why? Dorian has striated glutes and Ronnie was very lucky in 01/02 he was outclassed and still ' won '

amd as far as proportion Dorian may not have been Paris or Labrada but he's still leaps & bounds better than Ronnie in this department he did better than these guys because he meet ALL of the criteria better than them NOT just parts of it , that's how it's done

Dorian depending on the year carries more muscular bulk , any year has better density & dryness everywhere not just in the ' ass ' any year has better balance & proportion and better posing & presentation , END OF THE ROAD sorry Ronnie beat for the umpteenth time by Dorian

Fair point about being out-classed. I just think, much as you wouldn't like to believe it, Dorian would out-class 2003 Ronnie, but Ronnie would still 'win' as you put it. You can argue Jay won 2001 show, but basically it didn't happen. And Ronnie 2003 was a whole lot bigger with better condition. Your point about the mandatories is strong, but Dorian wouldn't win on a single bodypart, this would be his downfall.

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #283 on: June 02, 2009, 06:18:25 AM »
In 92, Kevin Smoked Dorian everywhere (except Back thickness , with better details though) but they couldn’t give it to him since he was an O first timer. 

So, you think that that every judge put better scores on their scoresheets for Dorian Yates even though they felt that Levrone was better, because, collectively, they all agreed they could'nt "give it to a first timer".

Gotcha.
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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #284 on: June 02, 2009, 07:17:30 AM »
so what is the typical Dorian fan ..?

Back & calves nothing else

A Dorian fan appreciates
BALANCE (i.e. we don't just assess a physique by arms  ::) )
PROPORTION
DENSITY
HARDNESS
CONDITIONING
MUSCULAR BULK

All of these qualities Dorian possessed to a high degree...


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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #285 on: June 02, 2009, 12:46:39 PM »
So, you think that that every judge put better scores on their scoresheets for Dorian Yates even though they felt that Levrone was better, because, collectively, they all agreed they could'nt "give it to a first timer".

Gotcha.

Ha ha ha don't beat them over the head with logic they wont know what it is

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #286 on: June 02, 2009, 01:54:52 PM »
A Dorian fan appreciates
BALANCE (i.e. we don't just assess a physique by arms  ::) )
PROPORTION
DENSITY
HARDNESS
CONDITIONING
MUSCULAR BULK

All of these qualities Dorian possessed to a high degree...

and yet ronnie possessed them all to a much higher degree:

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #287 on: June 02, 2009, 02:46:30 PM »
and yet ronnie possessed them all to a much higher degree:

How do you guys have energy or time for this?  Its a constant battle and neither side will ever admit defeat...

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #288 on: June 02, 2009, 04:25:00 PM »
Ronnie is indeed a much completer and freakier bb! hands down!

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #289 on: June 02, 2009, 04:47:52 PM »
Ronnie's back is shit.

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #290 on: June 02, 2009, 04:51:52 PM »
Ronnie is indeed a much completer and freakier bb! hands down!

exactly 8)
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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #291 on: June 02, 2009, 04:53:38 PM »
Ronnie's front lat spread = pathetic!

I pity the fool.

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #292 on: June 02, 2009, 05:20:03 PM »
and yet ronnie possessed them all to a much higher degree:


NASSER beat them all in these pics ;D

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #293 on: June 02, 2009, 06:03:17 PM »
How do you guys have energy or time for this?  Its a constant battle and neither side will ever admit defeat...

NO Battle that ended with Ronnie admitting he would never beat Dorian  ;D now all we have is Trollman fans infecting every single Yates thread trying to prove otherwise and they can't

the best of all is their own hero agrees with me that's the sweetest victory of all  ;D ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #294 on: June 02, 2009, 06:58:57 PM »
Dorian wouldn't win on a single bodypart, this would be his downfall.


No kidding.

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #295 on: June 02, 2009, 09:20:47 PM »
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Dorian wouldn't win on a single bodypart, this would be his downfall.


yeah, that might create a problem LOL

not only would he lose on almost every bodypart, he loses in every mandatory as well..

but I do think dorian has better calves.

lol
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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #296 on: June 03, 2009, 01:30:33 AM »
Fair point about being out-classed. I just think, much as you wouldn't like to believe it, Dorian would out-class 2003 Ronnie, but Ronnie would still 'win' as you put it. You can argue Jay won 2001 show, but basically it didn't happen. And Ronnie 2003 was a whole lot bigger with better condition. Your point about the mandatories is strong, but Dorian wouldn't win on a single bodypart, this would be his downfall.


FYI contests aren't judged on bodyparts , you're showing your ignorance again contests are judged on the criteria ALL of the criteria , what you don't know is all rounds are physique rounds , which means the judges look for ALL of the criteria in every single round , ever wonder how Dorian won the symmetry round despite not being the most symmetrical? or the posing round despite not being the best poser? all rounds are physique rounds is your answer

This is where Dorian would beat Ronnie , he simply accumulates more mandatory poses and seeing the judges look for ALL the criteria in ever single pose this clearly favor's Yates , so while Ronnie may have better parts in a pose he doesn't have meet ALL of the criteria better , judges look for balance & proportion in  every single pose , as well as density & dryness , as well as muscular bulk as well as posing & presentation , so while Ronnie may have advantages in part of this criteria Dorian has more advantages in ALL of this criteria

What separates Dorian any year is balance & proportion and density & dryness these are areas Dorian will always have a clear advantage compared to any year Ronnie , depending on the year Ronnie has an advantages in muscular bulk however that's negated by a deficiency in conditioning & balance , another clear advantage for Yates is posing & presentation , Dorian is clearly better at posing and posing to show his physique off to it's best advantage

Ronnie 2001 may come very close to equaling Dorian in density & dryness but falls short in muscular bulk , balance & proportion , posing & presentation , etc this is how it works Dorian simply meets ALL of the criteria better than Ronnie and this is exactly how he would win because this is judged in every single pose in every single round , so please learn how contests are judged before you try and say why Ronnie would win then you would spare yourself the embarrassment of claiming Dorian wouldn't win a single body part especially when it's not how contests are judged  ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #297 on: June 03, 2009, 03:41:59 AM »
more mandatories my ass

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even dorian's best pose gets crushed thanks to detail, seperation and shape, in addition to the 257 pounds of mass:
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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #298 on: June 03, 2009, 06:20:06 AM »

This is where Dorian would beat Ronnie , he simply accumulates more mandatory poses and seeing the judges look for ALL the criteria in ever single pose this clearly favor's Yates , so while Ronnie may have better parts in a pose he doesn't have meet ALL of the criteria better , judges look for balance & proportion in  every single pose , as well as density & dryness , as well as muscular bulk as well as posing & presentation , so while Ronnie may have advantages in part of this criteria Dorian has more advantages in ALL of this criteria


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Re: Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread
« Reply #299 on: June 03, 2009, 06:37:31 AM »
FYI contests aren't judged on bodyparts no, but having great bodyparts adds an overall appearance that is judged upon., you're showing your ignorance again contests are judged on the criteria ALL of the criteria you accuse me of demeaning others based on IQ, yet you call others "ignorant" at every turn, what you don't know is all rounds are physique rounds , which means the judges look for ALL of the criteria in every single round whats the criteria?, ever wonder how Dorian won the symmetry round despite not being the most symmetrical? yes, this is one of the mysteries of bodybuildingor the posing round despite not being the best poser? all rounds are physique rounds is your answer and Dorian still shouldnt win

This is where Dorian would beat Ronnie , he simply accumulates more mandatory poses and seeing the judges look for ALL the criteria in ever single pose this clearly favor's Yates , so while Ronnie may have better parts in a pose he doesn't have meet ALL of the criteria better , judges look for balance & proportion in  every single pose , as well as density & dryness , as well as muscular bulk as well as posing & presentation , so while Ronnie may have advantages in part of this criteria Dorian has more advantages in ALL of this criteria

What separates Dorian any year is balance & proportion and density & dryness these are areas Dorian will always have a clear advantage compared to any year Ronnie How so?  Ronnie displayed conditioning and SEPARATION no one has matched before or since, depending on the year Ronnie has an advantages in muscular bulk however that's negated by a deficiency in conditioning & balance balance? do you think Ronnie would have had better "balance" if he had torn his bicep?, another clear advantage for Yates is posing & presentation , Dorian is clearly better at posing and posing to show his physique off to it's best advantage clearly better?  thats a matter of opinion, and many disagree with you

Ronnie 2001 who cares about Ronnie in 2001?  That was not anywhere close to his best condition, why would you pick that year of all others?may come very close to equaling Dorian in density & dryness but falls short in muscular bulk , balance & proportion , posing & presentation , etc this is how it works Dorian simply meets ALL of the criteria better than Ronnie and this is exactly how he would win because this is judged in every single pose in every single round , so please learn how contests are judged before you try and say why Ronnie would win then you would spare yourself the embarrassment of claiming Dorian wouldn't win a single body part especially when it's not how contests are judged  ;) Again, you seem to think these IDIOTS judging bodybuilding shows get it right.  Do you ever stop and wonder if judges rewarding less-than-worthy physiques might have something to do with this sport not being on ESPN anymore and having deteriorated in general?  The judges argument simply doesn't work.  IFBB judging has been exposed as a travesty time and time again.