Dorian Yates - New pics, new thread

[Relentless]

These arm look pretty damn big to me     (I see Pumpster & Hulkster are posting their favorite Dorian pics....the one's where he isn't even in the pose yet)

There are a few shots of Dorian that showcase great arm development...but they are few and far between and often feature the right arm.  Ronnie Coleman and Dorian's arms can't really be compared - Ronnie is light years ahead of Dorian.  I think Dorian's arms were often the worst amongst the top pros during his Olympia reign.

[gib]

Dorian is an increadibly ugly looking person, there is no doubt that. Especially his face which looks like a kind of bulldog.

He did produce some pretty amazing pics though. The one at the beginning of this thread is one of my favourites of him. There is another memorable one of him in a pair of socks, black and white, probably taken around the same time which also looks awesome.

[Royal Lion]

Let's go with shots where he's making the person he's standing beside look like Oliva.

Again, the side tri shot where he hasn't even hit the pose.  Here is the same pose when he is actually completing it and winning - typical biased pics by biased Dorian haters 

[Royal Lion]

There are a few shots of Dorian that showcase great arm development...but they are few and far between and often feature the right arm.  Ronnie Coleman and Dorian's arms can't really be compared - Ronnie is light years ahead of Dorian.  I think Dorian's arms were often the worst amongst the top pros during his Olympia reign.

Well of course he showcased his right arm because his left bicep was torn.  Just like when Ronnie's left tri was atrophied towards the end of his career he only displayed his right tricep.  No way Yates's arms were the worst amongst his olympia reign.  He always dominated the side-tricep poses, had huge forearms, and his pre-tear front dbl biceps was one of the best.  Post-tear, his right bicep was still huge, but of course his left bicep didn't compare.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Lying is always an option...

Why would I lie? what do I have to hide? I could work pumping gas and I would still know more on the subject than you Hulkster , pumpster and every other Trollman fan combined and why? because I've read up extensively on the subject , and basing your knowledge on your posts it's painfully obvious none of you know the first thing about how contests are judged , what the criteria is and what judges look for . 

and to answer your question I work for one of the largest flower wholesalers on the East coast , I start at 5 a.m ( or earlier ) and I'm usually out for the day by 1 p.m so I can post during the say when most people are still working and again who can't post with a mobile device during the day? and I still only average 11 posts a day 

[NarcissisticDeity]

How the hell would you know what Ronnie Coleman believes?  CONTEXT, dude.

Context? you want context? " would you beat Dorian? NO "  that's context 

again if he thought Dorian couldn't beat him he would flat out say so , he said it many times about Jay , he said the same about Gunther at the 2002 SOS , so Yes seeing Ronnie said on three separate occasions of the course of his career that he feels Dorian would beat him it's very safe to say Ronnie believes it and why? Dorian is a man who routinely beat him for years so when the great bodybuilder of all-time says he couldn't beat Dorian that carries weight 

[Hulkster]

because I've read up extensively on the subject

and learned nothing..

if there is one thing people begin to realize after 'debating' with you is that you have a set of ideas and you will not deviate from them, even if you have been proven wrong time and time again..

eg. you pick which quotes fit your agenda, and if contradictory quotes (along with visuals) show your first quote to be incorrect, you dont care and continue to push it anyway..

you are like classic debater comitting fallacy after fallacy- by sweeping contradictory evidence under your dorian-cum-stained-carpet..

[Hulkster]

and to answer your question I work for one of the largest flower wholesalers on the East coast

hahahaa ND is a flower girl!

hahahahaha

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

   

lol common sense is his kryptonite.

Here's the REAL view of those late 90s bricklayer arms.

common sense? the irony of YOU of all people typing that word , what do you know of common sense? 

" pumpster : Vic's calves are pathetic ,  Branch's ( Warrens ) aren't much better "

you absolutely know nothing about common sense , another pumpster gem " Ronnie dominated the 2001 Mr Olympia " lmao how so? by losing the whole prejudging 

[Hulkster]

ND's flower garden:

hahahahahaha

[Hulkster]

There are a few shots of Dorian that showcase great arm development...but they are few and far between and often feature the right arm.  Ronnie Coleman and Dorian's arms can't really be compared - Ronnie is light years ahead of Dorian.  I think Dorian's arms were often the worst amongst the top pros during his Olympia reign.

agreed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

and learned nothing..

if there is one thing people begin to realize after 'debating' with you is that you have a set of ideas and you will not deviate from them, even if you have been proven wrong time and time again..

eg. you pick which quotes fit your agenda, and if contradictory quotes (along with visuals) show your first quote to be incorrect, you dont care and continue to push it anyway..

you are like classic debater comitting fallacy after fallacy- by sweeping contradictory evidence under your dorian-cum-stained-carpet..

yeah the set of ideas is called the IFBB judging criteria and why deviate from them? that's how the game is played kid ...still haven't caught on either  you have NOT ever proven me wrong not once keep typing it's all you have , let's say you did prove me wrong YOU would not be in another Yates thread trying to prove Ronnie is better 

I post the quotes that prove what I've been saying all along , I claimed Yates was better conditioned out of the two and you denied , denied and denied , I posted quotes from Yates and McGough saying as much , proving I was right all along and how did you counter? denial as usual , so me ONE single quote that contradicts this statement YOU CAN'T DO IT and never could , I claimed Yates had better balance & proportion than Ronnie and I backed that up as well , where are quote to the contrary ? NO WHERE

You're not a debater under any circumstances because you don't even know how contests are judged , how the fuck can you even attempt to debate when you don't know the rules? you're the moron who claimed Yates lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler LMAO there is no debate just me correcting your nonsense

[Cleanest Natural]

 

stop this fucking debate!

[Relentless]

Why would I lie? what do I have to hide? I could work pumping gas and I would still know more on the subject than you Hulkster , pumpster and every other Trollman fan combined and why? because I've read up extensively on the subject , and basing your knowledge on your posts it's painfully obvious none of you know the first thing about how contests are judged , what the criteria is and what judges look for . 

and to answer your question I work for one of the largest flower wholesalers on the East coast , I start at 5 a.m ( or earlier ) and I'm usually out for the day by 1 p.m so I can post during the say when most people are still working and again who can't post with a mobile device during the day? and I still only average 11 posts a day 

That's all I was looking for; an honest answer.  I have flexible hours and don't have to be constrained by an office and was wondering how you were able to post so often.

[Hulkster]

yeah the set of ideas is called the IFBB judging criteria and why deviate from them? that's how the game is played kid ...still haven't caught on either  you have NOT ever proven me wrong not once keep typing it's all you have , let's say you did prove me wrong YOU would not be in another Yates thread trying to prove Ronnie is better 

I post the quotes that prove what I've been saying all along , I claimed Yates was better conditioned out of the two and you denied , denied and denied , I posted quotes from Yates and McGough saying as much , proving I was right all along and how did you counter? denial as usual , so me ONE single quote that contradicts this statement YOU CAN'T DO IT and never could , I claimed Yates had better balance & proportion than Ronnie and I backed that up as well , where are quote to the contrary ? NO WHERE

You're not a debater under any circumstances because you don't even know how contests are judged , how the fuck can you even attempt to debate when you don't know the rules? you're the moron who claimed Yates lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler LMAO there is no debate just me correcting your nonsense

Flower Boy is melting down lol

[Relentless]

yeah the set of ideas is called the IFBB judging criteria and why deviate from them? that's how the game is played kid ...still haven't caught on either  you have NOT ever proven me wrong not once keep typing it's all you have , let's say you did prove me wrong YOU would not be in another Yates thread trying to prove Ronnie is better 

I post the quotes that prove what I've been saying all along , I claimed Yates was better conditioned out of the two and you denied , denied and denied , I posted quotes from Yates and McGough saying as much , proving I was right all along and how did you counter? denial as usual , so me ONE single quote that contradicts this statement YOU CAN'T DO IT and never could , I claimed Yates had better balance & proportion than Ronnie and I backed that up as well , where are quote to the contrary ? NO WHERE

You're not a debater under any circumstances because you don't even know how contests are judged , how the fuck can you even attempt to debate when you don't know the rules? you're the moron who claimed Yates lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler LMAO there is no debate just me correcting your nonsense

How do quotes relate to something that is SUBJECTIVE?  All you are doing is taking other people's opinions to back yours.  You haven't proven anything.

   

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flower Boy is melting down lol

Typical Hulkster can't respond so attack 

[Hulkster]

How do quotes relate to something that is SUBJECTIVE?  All you are doing is taking other people's opinions to back yours.  You haven't proven anything.

   

exactly.

 ND loves to post quotes that are proven wrong by the visuals, but he posts and believes the quotes anyway..even if there are other quotes that contradict his quote that are BACKED UP by the visuals..

like I said, its sweeping the evidence under the carpet..

[NarcissisticDeity]

How do quotes relate to something that is SUBJECTIVE?  All you are doing is taking other people's opinions to back yours.  You haven't proven anything.

   

Subjective? who is harder & drier is not subjective and yeah I'm taking other peoples opinions to back mine especially when the guy giving it is an IFBB judge , the criteria isn't subjective either you're in shape or you're not , either your calves are in proportion with your quads or they aren't I mean that's how contests are judged by direct comparison they decide who satisfies the criteria better and the best part is a group of individuals all come to the same conclusion

[Relentless]

common sense? the irony of YOU of all people typing that word , what do you know of common sense? 

" pumpster : Vic's calves are pathetic ,  Branch's ( Warrens ) aren't much better "

you absolutely know nothing about common sense , another pumpster gem " Ronnie dominated the 2001 Mr Olympia " lmao how so? by losing the whole prejudging 

You criticized me for attacking you personally, yet here you are insinuating someone else lacks common sense.

HYPOCRITE!

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly.

 ND loves to post quotes that are proven wrong by the visuals, but he posts and believes the quotes anyway..even if there are other quotes that contradict his quote that are BACKED UP by the visuals..

like I said, its sweeping the evidence under the carpet..

lmfao proven wrong by visuals? show the the visuals that prove Flex beat Dorian in 1993 , please do  again you are ALWAYS in direct opposition of the judges what does that tell us? you're wrong

[Relentless]

Typical Hulkster can't respond so attack 

"common sense? the irony of YOU of all people typing that word , what do you know of common sense?"

[Hulkster]

You criticized me for attacking you personally, yet here you are insinuating someone else lacks common sense.

HYPOCRITE!

NarcissisticFlowery rarely makes sense..

[ironneck]

time to ungay this thread

[Relentless]

lmfao proven wrong by visuals? show the the visuals that prove Flex beat Dorian in 1993 , please do  again you are ALWAYS in direct opposition of the judges what does that tell us? you're wrong

Do you believe judges get it right all of the time?  Do you believe people in positions of authority who are asked to make subjective decisions are always correct?

You're banging your head against the wall, ND.