Hmmm, I do get slightly persuaded by some of the Dorian arguments. He was obviously awesome, but similarly The Dorian camp must feel slightly when watching the Dorian off-season vid that basically his arms are almost completely non-existant. A small point maybe, but then watching that Ronnie '99 video, he really has the size and fullness to match up to Dorian, with the crazy muscle bellies, slim waist and no week bodyparts. Calves not great like Dorian. More aesthetic for sure at that point in his career. Dorian looks intimidating and thick as a brick, but do you Dorian guys not think when he does the front double biceps and one-arm biceps/quads outstretched pose that he's lacking a little in the crucial arm department? I can't imagine Arnold assessing that in one of his commentaries and being kind.