Author Topic: Ed Van Amsterdam receives Olympia wild card? (Read 23035 times)

Chick · « **Reply #150 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:02:24 PM »

Quote from: kmhphoto on May 31, 2009, 03:57:48 PM

Why not?

It underminds the integrity of the qualifying process...if you allow it for one, then the line becomes much longer and convoluted as to who merits consideration and who doesn't.

The way it is now, you either qualify on your OWN merit, or you don't. No gray area

alejandro_torres · « **Reply #151 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:06:17 PM »

so can levrone compete without an invitation?!?

Chick · « **Reply #152 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:08:37 PM »

Quote from: alejandro_torres on May 31, 2009, 04:06:17 PM

so can levrone compete without an invitation?!?

No...how would he?

alejandro_torres · « **Reply #153 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:09:33 PM »

if he descides to compete and shit... he needs to qualify too???

kmhphoto · « **Reply #154 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:09:45 PM »

Quote from: alejandro_torres on May 31, 2009, 04:06:17 PM

so can levrone compete without an invitation?!?

No, he would need to be put forward by the promoter to the IFBB for consideration.

alejandro_torres · « **Reply #155 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:11:30 PM »

but lets be honest, if he says, i want to do the o, they will let him!!!

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #156 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:19:44 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 31, 2009, 03:27:42 PM

There are lots of guys deserving, but it wont change the fact that we have a system in place....and no athletes are given an invite due to sponsor consideration

Enough money he'll be there

kmhphoto · « **Reply #157 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:13:40 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 31, 2009, 04:02:24 PM

It underminds the integrity of the qualifying process...if you allow it for one, then the line becomes much longer and convoluted as to who merits consideration and who doesn't.

The way it is now, you either qualify on your OWN merit, or you don't. No gray area

But the rules explicitly allow for a special invite and it has been awarded before.
And whoever decided to include the rule didn't consider it to be undermining the integrity of the qualifying process so why are you?

But you are correct that there is no gray area - a special invite can be awarded to someone who has not qualified by other means.

So considering your position as IFBB Athletes rep and your opinion that the rule undermines the integrity of the qualifying process are you going to call for the rule to be removed?

nicky.smth · « **Reply #158 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:15:05 PM »

Quote from: alejandro_torres on May 31, 2009, 04:11:30 PM

but lets be honest, if he says, i want to do the o, they will let him!!!

of course if levrone says he wants to do the Olympia they let him in

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #159 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:17:35 PM »

Quote from: kmhphoto on May 31, 2009, 06:13:40 PM

But the rules explicitly allow for a special invite and it has been awarded before.
And whoever decided to include the rule didn't consider it to be undermining the integrity of the qualifying process so why are you?

But you are correct that there is no gray area - a special invite can be awarded to someone who has not qualified by other means.

But considering your position, are you going to call for the rule to be removed?

It's comical how Chick just pretends the "special invite" rule doesn't exist, yet it's right there in black and white. It's part of the rules, and has been used before.

Chick · « **Reply #160 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:18:07 PM »

Quote from: kmhphoto on May 31, 2009, 06:13:40 PM

But the rules explicitly allow for a special invite and it has been awarded before.
And whoever decided to include the rule didn't consider it to be undermining the integrity of the qualifying process so why are you?

But you are correct that there is no gray area because the rules state it.

But considering your position, are you going to call for the rule to be removed?

Yes, the rules allow for the promoter to submit for consideration a "special invite"...the rule has been in place for some time.

Unfortunately, the former "regime" didn't understand ( or chose not to) the intention of the rule, or who it was intended for.

Of course they didn't see it as undermining the integrity, they had their own self interests in mind...

Why call for it's removal?

kmhphoto · « **Reply #161 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:20:17 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 31, 2009, 06:18:07 PM

Yes, the rules allow for the promoter to submit for consideration a "special invite"...the rule has been in place for some time.

Unfortunately, the former "regime" didn't understand ( or chose not to) the intention of the rule, or who it was intended for.

Of course they didn't see it as undermining the integrity, they had their own self interests in mind...

Why call for it's removal?

Wasn't it Joe Weider who asked for the inclusion of Gunther?

If you consider the rule to be undermining the qualifying process, then shouldn't it be removed?

Chick · « **Reply #162 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:20:27 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 31, 2009, 06:17:35 PM

It's comical how Chick just pretends the "special invite" rule doesn't exist, yet it's right there in black and white. It's part of the rules, and has been used before.

No one said it doesn't exist, moron....

What I said was that it should only be used in special circumstances (injury) or a former Mr. Olympia, etc....not some sponsor consideration

It WAS used before...by your buddy Wayne, for the wrong reasons...which the other athletes didn't appreciate very much

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #163 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:22:42 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 31, 2009, 06:20:27 PM

No one said it doesn't exist, moron....

What I said was that it should only be used in special circumstances (injury) or a former Mr. Olympia, etc....not some sponsor consideration

It WAS used before...by your buddy Wayne, for the wrong reasons...which the other athletes didn't appreciate very much

Wayne? Why would Wayne care if Gunter was in the O? On the other hand, Gunter was a Weider athlete.

Chick · « **Reply #164 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:23:04 PM »

Quote from: kmhphoto on May 31, 2009, 06:20:17 PM

Wasn't it Joe Weider who asked for the inclusion of Gunther?

If you consider the rule to be undermining the qualifying process, then shouldn't it be removed?

Joe, or Wayne...

The rule isn't undermining if given to the proper individual (who is deserving)....merely giving it to an athlete because their company is a sponsor would be....as would any joe blow that just didn't get the qualification by competing.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #165 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:23:12 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 31, 2009, 06:20:27 PM

No one said it doesn't exist, moron....

What I said was that it should only be used in special circumstances (injury) or a former Mr. Olympia, etc....not some sponsor consideration

It WAS used before...by your buddy Wayne, for the wrong reasons...which the other athletes didn't appreciate very much

$ will get him in

Chick · « **Reply #166 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:24:58 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 31, 2009, 06:22:42 PM

Wayne? Why would Wayne care if Gunter was in the O? On the other hand, Gunter was a Weider athlete.

There are lots of things you wouldn't have any knowledge of, this being one of them...unfortunately, posting 40+ times on Getbig daily doesn't give you anymore insight into pro bodybuilding

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #167 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:26:21 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 31, 2009, 06:24:58 PM

There are lots io things you wouldn't have any knowledge of, this being one of them...unfortunately, posting 40+ times on Getbig daily doesn't give you anymore insight into pro bodybuilding

Damn great point Chick

you are doing a great job with what u r given to work with.

chaos · « **Reply #168 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:33:19 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 06:26:21 PM

Damn great point Chick you are doing a great job with what u r given to work with.

Given that Chick works with bodybuilders, are you saying he is doing a great job handling his oiled up men in thongs?

kmhphoto · « **Reply #169 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:34:56 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 31, 2009, 06:23:04 PM

Joe, or Wayne...

The rule isn't undermining if given to the proper individual (who is deserving)....merely giving it to an athlete because their company is a sponsor would be....as would any joe blow that just didn't get the qualification by competing.

Personally I think it would only be undermining if the sponsor asked for a non IFBB athlete to be allowed to compete.

Of course all those who don't get an invite will be pissed

crownshep · « **Reply #170 on:** June 01, 2009, 04:47:48 AM »

How come Mike Mattarazzo got a special invite in 91.
How come Francis Benfatto got a special invite in 89.
How come Armando Defant got a special invite in 89.
How come Ulf Larsson got a special invite in 87.
How come Gary Leonard got a special invite in 86.
How come Ben Herder,Salvador Ruiz,Ali Malla,and John Brown got special invites in 85.

Euro-monster · « **Reply #171 on:** June 01, 2009, 04:54:45 AM »

Quote from: crownshep on June 01, 2009, 04:47:48 AM

How come Mike Mattarazzo got a special invite in 91.
How come Francis Benfatto got a special invite in 89.
How come Armando Defant got a special invite in 89.
How come Ulf Larsson got a special invite in 87.
How come Gary Leonard got a special invite in 86.
How come Ben Herder,Salvador Ruiz,Ali Malla,and John Brown got special invites in 85.

Dont worry...chick is just messing with us..he knows as well as Ed knows that he is doing the O by special invite...chick is not allowed to spill the beans yet thats all...

Chick · « **Reply #172 on:** June 01, 2009, 04:55:35 AM »

Quote from: Chick on May 29, 2009, 08:38:45 PM

When Wayne was shown the door

already answered on page 6

robins · « **Reply #173 on:** June 01, 2009, 05:35:56 AM »

Ed's gym say's that Ed is doing the Olympia

ironneck · « **Reply #174 on:** June 01, 2009, 05:37:26 AM »

Quote from: robins on June 01, 2009, 05:35:56 AM

Ed's gym say's that Ed is doing the Olympia

haha he's wearing ed hardy^^