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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2009, 03:37:28 PM »
I'm just curious if it's common knowledge by now, beyond this smart ass community that overpriced pre-packaged "formulas" don't work and not worth the money?

I spotted some kids yesteday making fun of the "9.234903433333333lb lean mass in 20.66666666 days" concept and they were skinny so the bullshit status must be catching up  ???

am I too optimistic?






Gotta love the "scientist" and Jays "serious" expression as the "genious" explains him the new "formula".

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2009, 03:38:10 PM »
hahhahahha, Just look at a company like AtLarge Nutrition who refuses to post a lab assay that I requested about one of their products. Not only is the company owner, Chris Douchebag Mason, a complete ass but he is peddeling a line of prducts the should be renamed Garbage Nutrition. Anyone who would trust a company like this is a FOOL!


No assays?

that's incredible.  every company allows for this.  what are they trying to hide?

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2009, 03:41:50 PM »
Guck dir doch die Produkte an, Faultier!

http://www.lsp-sports.net/epages/15510420.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15510420/Categories/Proteine

Protein Pudding=unique

I'm happy to have found one that meets all my criteria, but if UN goes out of business, I may reconsider. ;D

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2009, 03:44:56 PM »
I'm happy to have found one that meets all my criteria, but if UN goes out of business, I may reconsider. ;D
hey wave,

You know the transformation pics u post in some threads,

how long did it take you to go from your "before" to "after" pics?

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2009, 03:45:58 PM »
Mason, I know you read getbig.

why do you forbid Assays on your products?  Are they not of quality they say on the label?

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2009, 03:50:25 PM »
hey wave,

You know the transformation pics u post in some threads,

how long did it take you to go from your "before" to "after" pics?

3 month, lost about 13.5 lbs of fat and 1.5 lbs of muscle.

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2009, 03:51:48 PM »
3 month, lost about 13.5 lbs of fat and 1.5 lbs of muscle.

Do you have a link to UN products?
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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2009, 03:51:59 PM »
I dont know Chris Mason, but an independent lab assay is only like $100 on protein.Maybe his product wont make assay.
If a customer asks me for an assay I will gladly email or fax them a copy .
I know Dante from Trueprotein also offers assaays.
If a company wont give you and independent lab assay, dont give them your buissness.
Dont fall for a assay, request and indepedent assay from a company not affiliated with them.Anybody can make a product that will make it pass assay.
Miller Labs, or MVTL, require us to send a sealed bottle with a lot #

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2009, 03:55:00 PM »
Do you have a link to UN products?

That's what I use:
http://www.ultimatenutrition.com/catalog/protein/prostar_whey_gourmet.html

Any other good quality whey is fine too of course.

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2009, 03:56:34 PM »

If a company wont give you and independent lab assay, dont give them your buissness.
Dont fall for a assay, request and indepedent assay from a company not affiliated with them.Anybody can make a product that will make it pass assay.
Miller Labs, or MVTL, require us to send a sealed bottle with a lot #


Unless the product is bought by an anonymous third party who sends it to the lab, it doesn't matter much if it's sealed or whatever.

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2009, 04:00:11 PM »
That's what I use:
http://www.ultimatenutrition.com/catalog/protein/prostar_whey_gourmet.html

Any other good quality whey is fine too of course.

How is the taste and the wasserloeslichkeit? That cholocate mint looks really good, :), have you tried that flavour?
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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2009, 04:02:51 PM »
How is the taste and the wasserloeslichkeit? That cholocate mint looks really good, :), have you tried that flavour?

That's actually the one I use exclusively. Taste is very pleasant (relatively of course). Best dissolubility I have ever encountered.

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2009, 04:08:06 PM »
That's actually the one I use exclusively. Taste is very pleasant (relatively of course). Best dissolubility I have ever encountered.

You mean that you only eat chocolate mint? Have you never tried anything else?
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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2009, 04:11:15 PM »
You mean that you only eat chocolate mint? Have you never tried anything else?

I've tried a lot of their flavours but that's the one I like best, so I stuck with it.
Sometimes I use the peach one, which is also pretty good:
http://www.ultimatenutrition.com/catalog/protein/isocool.html

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2009, 04:13:47 PM »
I've tried a lot of their flavours but that's the one I like best, so I stuck with it.
Sometimes I use the peach one, which is also pretty good:
http://www.ultimatenutrition.com/catalog/protein/isocool.html

Bestellst du das online oder wie? Kann ich das auch von hier aus bestellen? ???
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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2009, 04:15:50 PM »
Bestellst du das online oder wie? Kann ich das auch von hier aus bestellen? ???

Yes online, I'm sure there a UK online shops that import and sell UN products.

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2009, 04:17:50 PM »
Species offers them as well - nothing to hide - I wish every company could say the same. 

Of course, imagine sitting on a warehouse of product that can't make assay - haha now that's a glorious moment.  i predict mason is quiet on this one, eh chris?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=272888.0

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2009, 04:19:19 PM »
Yes online, I'm sure there a UK online shops that import and sell UN products.

Such gerade, finde aber nix... ??? Hilft mir der Computermeister?
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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2009, 05:00:45 PM »
Protein bars are bad new.Most contain Hydrolised collagen protein, as there main ingredient, or soy Protein.Collagen protein is made from the remains of an animal, the skin bones, hooves, anus skin, the parts they cant use.They put these parts in large bathsd until they turn to liquid.
Hydolised protein, geletain protein or collagen protein, is junk.Alot of companies try to dusguise the name.
Alos another problem with bars is they are made by candy companies for the protein manufactures.Because bar manufac turing equiptment is expensive they sub contract the job to Hershey, or another company.
So god knows what the bar really is when its done.
Plus to make matters worse, they use heat to bake some of these bars, to put the chocolate coating on the bar.When protein is heated it denatures the bar making the protein content useless.
I persoanly stay away from protein bars, they have to many fillers, use inferior protein, and basically contain a ton of gylcerin.Which makes me tired becasuse it creates a spike in my insulin levels, for a brief moment followed by a massive crash.Protein have so much shit in them they are just bascially proceesed crap.
You cant get lean or look good eating protein bars.If you want a bar, eat a candy bar, chocolaste is good for you, it releases endophins in your body, and can increase mood.In some studies it has shown that the PEA in chocolate, can actually help stop the release of cortisol.
Fuck protein bars, give me a some peanut M&M'S , Reeses, peanut butter cups, mint 3 Muskateers, or some Ghiradelli chocolate.
Why screw around with protein bars, when you can have the real deal?
Candy bars taste better, and are better for you.
Sorbitol, Malitol, and sugar alchogols, is a bunch of garbage.
This stuff can really fuck up your digestive system.Nothing like crapping your pants if you eat to much of this crap.
I have nothing against Chris Mason, maybe his bar is good.But protein bars in general, are pretty much garbage.

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2009, 05:01:08 PM »
Good companies, in no particular order
Bio-Plex, excellent protein
AST There VP2 IS GREAT
Met-RX, the original white box, the rest of it is owrthless
Natures Best iSOPURE,Whey Protein Isolate
True Protein Dante, honest knowledgable guy, who takes pride in what he does
Extreme Labs offers assays on there products
Labarada assays his products regularly
ISS There Pro M3 is a pretty good product.
Optimum Nutrition, the Pro Complex is okay, the other products arent
Species a good Whey Protein Isolate

Companies to look out for

Muscle Tech, they have no shame, exagerated claims on average products
VPX makes up chemical names

hahahaha, isnt that the pot calling the kettle black.

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2009, 06:51:37 PM »
I'm just curious if it's common knowledge by now, beyond this smart ass community that overpriced pre-packaged "formulas" don't work and not worth the money?

I spotted some kids yesteday making fun of the "9.234903433333333lb lean mass in 20.66666666 days" concept and they were skinny so the bullshit status must be catching up  ???

am I too optimistic?





Hahaha, Anatorp70 isn't even sold anymore. As if Jay even uses anything MuscleTech produces. He doesn't. How sad these ads are of a studio made to look like a lab with an actor posing as some scientist and someone with a camera just happened to quickly take a snapshot of the scientist explain the concept of the new cutting-edge product to help Jay grow even more muscle.



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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2009, 07:03:31 PM »
I use musashi p40. Used by australian sporting teams and different sports. Very fucking tasty. Strawberry sundae. Mmm

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2009, 07:04:53 PM »

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2009, 07:16:56 PM »
How about some of the older companies, like Beverly International? I hear their name from time to time as being a good one. As far as newer companies, I bought some Progenex and can honestly say it is a very good protein as far as recovery(albeit very overpriced).

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Re: Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2009, 07:19:01 PM »
I will admit to getbig that I once fell for a musletech ad. I was around 15 years old (19 now), and I bought anator p70 when it came out.

...it cost me 80 bucks for 1 tub...

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