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A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds
By Tom Precious

COMENT ON THIS STORY at Inside the News, 'More people think about leaving the Empire State'

 
 ALBANY -- Nearly a quarter of the state's population is at least giving thought to leaving New York for better conditions elsewhere, a new poll has found.

The Siena College Research Institute poll released this morning shows 11 percent of New Yorkers say they are going to move unless conditions in the state improve while another 10 percent say they would like to move out "as quickly as I can." Only 16 percent flatly say they are never moving.

The poll found 52 percent believe the state is moving in the wrong direction, while only 33 percent say New York is going in the right direction. The rest don't know or have no opinion.

The poll found 36 percent have no plans currently to move from the state, while 25 percent say they might move out once they retire.

Broken down by various subgroups, 18 percent of Republican and 16 percent of Latino voters say they will move if things don't improve, while 14 percent of voters age 18 to 34 years old and 13 percent of upstate voters say they would like to move out as quickly as they could.

Those most committed to the state? Black voters, 26 percent of whom say they will never move, and New York City voters, 24 percent of whom said the Empire State will always be their home.

The poll found only 8 percent said the economy of the state is good and only 1 percent called it excellent; the rest rated it either fair or poor. Siena said the number of people claiming they are considering moving from the state is the highest since the poll began asking the question; it did not say how many years that has been.

The wide-ranging poll found these other trends:

--Support for legalizing same-sex marriage in New York has slid from a previous Siena poll a month ago, when 53 percent said they supported and 39 percent opposed the right. In the new poll, New Yorkers are split -- 46 percent to 46 percent -- in favoring and opposing gay marriage. Democrats, younger voters, and Jews support it, while Republicans, older voters, African Americans, Protestants and Catholics generally oppose it. Thirty-nine percent of opponents say they will be very disappointed if the Legislature passes a same-sex marriage law, while only 16 percent of supporters say they will be very disappointed if it fails;

--Gov. David A. Paterson's support among voters seems to have bottomed out, with 27 percent viewing him favorably and 60 percent unfavorably -- statistically unchanged from a month ago. And he still would lose badly if the election were held today to potential challengers, including GOP's Rudolph Giuliani and Democrat Andrew Cuomo;

--The vast majority of New Yorkers wants a cap on their property taxes, a move being pushed by Paterson but opposed by Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, D-Manhattan. Seventy-two percent want an annual cap on the growth of their property taxes, compared to 20 percent who oppose one.

Despite the problems in Albany this session, New Yorkers say they want the Democrats to continue control of the State Senate, which they took over in January after 70 years of GOP dominance. Fifty-seven percent want the Senate to remain Democratic, compared to 37 percent who do not. There are nearly twice as many Democrats as Republicans in the state, according to state election board records.

tprecious@buffnews.com

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Anyone wonder why NY is a mess????

This poll confirms exactly what is wrong with NY, the voters are complete morons. 


 

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2009, 12:04:25 PM »
Get better voters then.

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2009, 12:12:31 PM »
ALBANY -- Nearly a quarter of the state's population is at least giving thought to leaving New York for better conditions elsewhere, a new poll has found.

they'll still be socially progressive, making where they move to more socially progressive

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2009, 12:14:31 PM »
Get better voters then.

Its impossible.  I did not want to go here with this thread, but so be it.  Notice who in the poll are the most liking of the big apple????  Black Voters.

Why is that?  

Guess which group over all others is over-represented on the welfare, medicaid, social service, public employees' union, and state funded programs rolls????

They are always going to vote for the candidate who promises more free stuff from the average taxpayer.  A terrible economy does not affect the typical black voter because he or she is either on social assistance already, or is part of the govt employee unions who never lay people off.

This state is totally screwed because we now have a one party state where one party is assured election every time no matter what due to the gerrymandering of the electorate.

The average taxpayer who is not a govt employee or welfare case has no say in this state.  

Lurker - even though you are a Dem, you have to admit that it is not good for a democracy when one party is always in power and can do whatever it wants all the time no matter what becasue the other party never has a chance.  It breeds corruption, graft, waste, fraud, abuse, which is exactly what is wrong with NYS right now.  The same is true for Michigan, MA, CT, etc.

 

        

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2009, 12:16:30 PM »
they'll still be socially progressive, making where they move to more socially progressive

No, they are productive people like Golisano and Rush who contribute millions of dollars a year in taxes who are tired of funding a corrupt democrat run govt who is making the Big Apple into the Rotten Apple. 

Golisano and Rush alone paid more in NYS Taxes than all the millions of acorn welfare bums combined.   

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2009, 12:18:57 PM »
FL is so broke right now, it's not funny.

I'm happy to see them arrive and inject some $ into this economy!

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2009, 12:28:30 PM »
FL is so broke right now, it's not funny.

I'm happy to see them arrive and inject some $ into this economy!

You know what 240 - you are right.  They will pump millions into Florida.  NYS screwed the pooch on this one becaise it refuses to cut spending and thinks it can tax everything and anything at all times.     

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2009, 12:32:12 PM »

Lurker - even though you are a Dem, you have to admit that it is not good for a democracy when one party is always in power and can do whatever it wants all the time no matter what becasue the other party never has a chance.  It breeds corruption, graft, waste, fraud, abuse, which is exactly what is wrong with NYS right now.  The same is true for Michigan, MA, CT, etc.

 

        

Which is exactly why I said "get better voters."  Because let's face it, your party isn't exactly producing better candidates that have better ideas or can generate enough enthusiasm and interest from the moderate and independent crowd to ever win an election again are they?

You have a minority shrinking base that is throwing hissy fits and kicking out anyone that can actually bring the people on the fence back into the fold in order to win an election.

BTW, I am an independent. 

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2009, 12:39:35 PM »
Which is exactly why I said "get better voters."  Because let's face it, your party isn't exactly producing better candidates that have better ideas or can generate enough enthusiasm and interest from the moderate and independent crowd to ever win an election again are they?

You have a minority shrinking base that is throwing hissy fits and kicking out anyone that can actually bring the people on the fence back into the fold in order to win an election.

BTW, I am an independent. 

Thats the problem - what is the GOP to do???  When 50.1% of the population is getting free stuff from the govt - how do you out pander the dems in a state like NYS????

The GOP in NY like the dems of any other state.  There is literally no difference in parties in this state.   The two are one in the same. 

   


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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 12:40:56 PM »
You know what 240 - you are right. 

QFT.  :)


man, it's broke down here.  Seriously.  333386, I'll buy ya dinner and a box of .45 for the range if you ever make th move down here.  City is becoming a ghost town :(

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 12:42:58 PM »
QFT.  :)


man, it's broke down here.  Seriously.  333386, I'll buy ya dinner and a box of .45 for the range if you ever make th move down here.  City is becoming a ghost town :(

I dont have a .45.  I am looking at a Kimber .45 since they are made in Yonkers and I would love to keep local people employed. 

I could use .9mm, .223, 7.62 x 39, now that you are offering.   ;D

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2009, 12:44:18 PM »
I could use .9mm, .223, 7.62 x 39, now that you are offering.   ;D

lol it's like you're actually reading my shopping list.  great minds.

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Re: A quarter of New Yorkers consider leaving state, poll finds.
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 12:53:38 PM »
lol it's like you're actually reading my shopping list.  great minds.

I have a good stock already of most rounds, but dont want to use them up at the range.  I would rather use ammo I can get my hands on now, but that has meant only shooting .22 as of late.  That GSG5 I got two months ago has more rounds through it already than almost everything else I have just due to ammo prices.

9mm is now $20 a box!