Arnold was so bad in 80 that...

[WillGrant]

not about the shit you conveyed that he said to Mentzer before he went on stage
that is unadulterated bs

Were you there Moose? Cos George Butler was , snapping and filming for the doco "the comeback" and he is on record relaying this line making note to how funny it was to watch hering Arnolds austrian accent and the way it deflated mentzer like a knife into a football.

Ive a copy of MMI sitting right here where butler talks about it a non weider properganda magazine btw.

Face it , Arnold dominated on stage and in the minds of his so called competition.

[lax]

Were you there Moose? Cos George Butler was , snapping and filming for the doco "the comeback" and he is on record relaying this line making note to how funny it was to watch hering Arnolds austrian accent and the way it deflated mentzer like a knife into a football.

Ive a copy of MMI sitting right here where butler talks about it a non weider properganda magazine btw.

Face it , Arnold dominated on stage and in the minds of his so called competition.

MMI.

Now there is a reputable source...I hear all the IFBB pros write their own articles in there, too.

[WillGrant]

MMI.

Now there is a reputable source...I hear all the IFBB pros write their own articles in there, too.

As reputable as you claiming not to be moosejay? 

[Figo]

Face it , Arnold dominated on stage and in the minds of his so called competition.

that, he did!

[Figo]

Even if Arnold had weak legs it doesn't mean that the rest of the guys did, so how did Zane beat them?
Anyway Arnolds legs were twice as big as Zanes, and Zane just looked like crap I'm sorry to say.

Zane was far from his best in 80, injuries made him reconsider competing that year, but he went ahead.

[Tarantula157]

Zane was far from his best in 80, injuries made him reconsider competing that year, but he went ahead.

...And he asked his friend Arnold whether to compete,but Arnold gave him the wrong advice

[ARNIE1947]

Arnold's form sucks.

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[Royal Lion]

This is a great shot of Arnold from 1980.  He deserved the win.

[Immortal_Technique]

Mentzer's HIT chest was shallow. His 4' frame let him down. Good forarms yes but got dwarfed overall everywhere except quads.

[funk51]

I'd have Duval, Katz, Corney, and even Waller ahead of him...Tony Emmott, too...just by virtue that they at least TRAINED legs

Pollux

also roger walker, he bitches about his placement in a bodybuilding.com interview.

[NordicNerd]

What it means, simply, is the show was fixed for Arnold. He would have been 8-9th place in a fair show

I'm not seing what you are seing. To me, based on the pictures, Arnold is the winner, The others look like midgets compared to him and he has some standout bodyparts like arm and chest. Legs are not impressive though.

NN

[Lion666]

AS DOWNSIZED as he was there from his best ,he is still in most shots schooling mentzer.which proves if it was 73/75 mentzer would be wiping the sweat of arnolds brow.

yup,,, this was the best chance anyone ever had at beatin arnold,, they stil couldnt.

[Lion666]

I'd have Duval, Katz, Corney, and even Waller ahead of him...Tony Emmott, too...just by virtue that they at least TRAINED legs

Pollux

you see
but you don't see
A would have had a hard time beating wheelchair bb's with those 'wheels'

You gotta admit this

yeah gotta admit too same way arnold made it look like everyone else didnt even train upper body
arnold didnt have a lot of size on his legs but he destroye everyone everywhere else.  stnding near anyone it was evident he won

[Lion666]

well
'aNtony'

look at arnold zane bdb pose

Zane=legs
Arnold=NO LEGS

no Olympia with no legs

understand?

yeah but its a bdb pise,, if we go by comments before about arnolds legs as small, he has bigger legs than zane buy zanes are more cut, however arnolds in bdb not really flex quad
so even  just bc arnlds legs werent greast he had some points that they were there traind with ome size but he destroyed uveryone on upperbosy. if legs were the difference maker all the time platz woulda won o's...
it does add,, repeat add to jay's dominance.
in a close call thats helps but if an upper body is superior wirh slightly weaker lower bod compared to the competitors upr body win 

[wild willie]

Guys......


Here is the bottom line.....

Arnold trained 6-8 weeks for this show......was he at his best......NO.....but was he good enough to beat these other gents.....YES.....the only guy that comes close is Chris Dickerson.....Arnold 1st place and Chris 2nd place......Arnold's bis were unreal in 80......as was his chest......along with those insane calves.....Dickerson's calves were mind blowing.....Arnold also had a nice routine......and he was in pretty darn good condition......He was good enough to win in 80......my .02!

[Darren Avey]

Arnie was the clear winner in 80, if you disagree you know nothing about body building.

[hench]

yep add to that Arnold was very cut and vascular.
Even Dickersons calves amazing were tiny next to Arnolds which were actually smaller than usual. So just goes to show how good Arnold still was

Guys......


Here is the bottom line.....

Arnold trained 6-8 weeks for this show......was he at his best......NO.....but was he good enough to beat these other gents.....YES.....the only guy that comes close is Chris Dickerson.....Arnold 1st place and Chris 2nd place......Arnold's bis were unreal in 80......as was his chest......along with those insane calves.....Dickerson's calves were mind blowing.....Arnold also had a nice routine......and he was in pretty darn good condition......He was good enough to win in 80......my .02!

[JP_RC]

Arnie was the clear winner in 80, if you disagree you know nothing about body building.

QFT

[monstercalves]

actually the weirdos are the people that hate pro bodybuilding yet continue to post here

what do you have to say about them "freud"

E

well said earl...... i dont understands these guys......theres a lot of them aswell ..... weird 


maybe we should start posting on a tennis forum ....we might enjoy it 

[Wiggs]

This is a great shot of Arnold from 1980.  He deserved the win.

No it's not he looks like he has a the aids...

[#1 Klaus fan]

No it's not he looks like he has a the aids...

Oh so conditioning is nowadays "AIDS"...

[Wiggs]

Oh so conditioning is nowadays "AIDS"...

look how small he looks compared to good arnold shots...doesn't look right.

[wild willie]

Remember one thing guys........





Arnold is numero uno!!!

[Bill Loguidice]

In some shots, Arnold looks well off his prime, but in others he looks pretty good. Where I think Arnold wins it is in the comparisons. He's just much larger than the other guys and very conditioned, and coming off three years of Zane wins, I think that might have also worked in his favor along with the whole "it's Arnold" factor. In short, I think it's a fair argument to say that, though controversial, he probably should have won a close decision. The other rankings seem off, but again, that may have been due to quirks of the scoring system.

Where we probably had the greatest travesty in the Olympia was Columbu in '81, followed by Dorian's last win, followed by a few Coleman victories. Guys with obviously damaged bodyparts should not win it all.

[Bazooka]

Dickerson was awesome in 1980 he should have taken that O.