U.S. urged to apologize for 1930s deportations

[loco]

Who was president during the 1930's when this occured?

Hoover.  He authorized this program.

[Deicide]

No, it's crazy conspiracy talk that falsely implicates your country that is anti-American. 

Do you feel guilt for the first 9/11?

[OzmO]

You are the one who needs to learn a thing or two Samson.

This thread is about "The Mexican Repatriation", a US government program authorized by President Hoover, which targeted Mexicans and Mexican Americans, most of which were legal immigrants, some legal permanent residents of the US and others US citizens, yet they were all deported anyway simply because they or their ancestors were born in Mexico.

I am making people aware of an event in US History that few are aware of because it was left out of most American history textbooks.

Never in my life have i heard this.

[240 is Back]

Who was president during the 1930's when this occured?

It does not matter.  To question a president's decisions is to display a unique blend of fascism, marxism, and of course, socialism.

You hate america if you quesiton her leaders.











 

[Hereford]

Never heard of this before.  Good post Loco.  I don't believe they should have deported American citizens or their immediate families even if they were illegal.

Interesting how stupid you get Samson123.  American indians who CHOOSE to live on reservations in many cases have it pretty good, at least in N. Cali.  Many get monthly income from the government and many are now getting monthly income from casino revenues.  Some cases I've seen personally had them getting 50-70k per year free.

Yup, most still live like trash though. Good thing for the casinos and government checks!

[Dos Equis]

Do you feel guilt for the first 9/11?

Of course not. 

[Deicide]

Of course not. 

Do you feel there was wrong doing done?

[Dos Equis]

Do you feel there was wrong doing done?

By the terrorist animals who attacked and murdered innocent civilians?  Absolutely. 

[Deicide]

By the terrorist animals who attacked and murdered innocent civilians?  Absolutely. 

I meant but the CIA/US government who overthrew a democratically elected leader in Chile on 9/11/1973 and installed a dictator and aided in the murder of thousands and tortured of tens of thousands. Do you feel the US was wrong in doing this?

[Dos Equis]

I meant but the CIA/US government who overthrew a democratically elected leader in Chile on 9/11/1973 and installed a dictator and aided in the murder of thousands and tortured of tens of thousands. Do you feel the US was wrong in doing this?

Do I feel guilt about something allegedly done in 1973??  No.  I don't believe the U.S. aided in the murder of thousands of torture of tens of thousands.  Nonsense. 

Why do you hate America? 

[Stormspirit]

I meant but the CIA/US government who overthrew a democratically elected leader in Chile on 9/11/1973 and installed a dictator and aided in the murder of thousands and tortured of tens of thousands. Do you feel the US was wrong in doing this?

the reason the US and Europe became so dominant and wealthy is through exploitation of other countries, it's a dog eat dog world, anyone else would have/has done it.  i think it's important to point out hypocrisy, that the US has not much moral ground to stand on, but I definitely don't regret the things that made our civilizations powerful and wealthy.  I think it's also hypocritical to benefit from exploitation of the third world yet be an outspoken critic of it.

[Deicide]

Do I feel guilt about something allegedly done in 1973??  No.  I don't believe the U.S. aided in the murder of thousands of torture of tens of thousands.  Nonsense. 

Why do you hate America? 

So there was no US supported military coup in Chile on 9/11/1973? This is all just fiction, never happened?

I don't hate America, I hate the goverment and what it does.

[Deicide]

the reason the US and Europe became so dominant and wealthy is through exploitation of other countries, it's a dog eat dog world, anyone else would have/has done it.  i think it's important to point out hypocrisy, that the US has not much moral ground to stand on, but I definitely don't regret the things that made our civilizations powerful and wealthy.  I think it's also hypocritical to benefit from exploitation of the third world(you) yet be an outspoken critic of it.

At least you admit it. People like BB refuse to believe any of it even though US intervention and military coups in Latin America have been ongoing for over 50 years and they are well documented facts.

[Stormspirit]

maybe beachbum should watch the economic hit men part of zeitgeist 2, most of the movie is shit though.

[Stormspirit]

economic hit men, 3 parts:

[Dos Equis]

So there was no US supported military coup in Chile on 9/11/1973? This is all just fiction, never happened?

I don't hate America, I hate the goverment and what it does.

That wasn't your question.  You claimed the United States aided in the murder of thousands of torture of tens of thousands.  Yes, that is fiction.  Never happened.  And what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?    

You don't hate America.  You just talk like you hate America.  

[Deicide]

maybe beachbum should watch the economic hit men part of zeitgeist 2, most of the movie is shit though.

Or read a book.

Chomsky often says (paraphrasing) "we did it so it doesn't count/is ok/is just forgotten". American exceptionalism. As a libertarian government orchestrated violence is deeply offensive to me as I believe nations much like individuals have the right of self-determination and autonomy. When other nations elect leaders in a fair way, the US has not moral or ethical right to interfere and impose violence on them because it does not get its way but sadly since the end of WWII the US (government) has committed hideous crime after crime without any repercussions whatsoever. Then the 2nd 9/11 happens, which horrible enough does not compare in the slightest to some of the atrocities the US government has committed but once again, "it happened to us", so everything is different.

[Deicide]

That wasn't your question.  You claimed the United States aided in the murder of thousands of torture of tens of thousands.  Yes, that is fiction.  Never happened.  And what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?    

You don't hate America.  You just talk like you hate America.  

So the most quote intellectual and author alive is just a fruitcake who is making things up?

Never happened, huh?

[Stormspirit]

Or read a book.

Chomsky often says (paraphrasing) "we did it so it doesn't count/is ok/is just forgotten". American exceptionalism. As a libertarian government orchestrated violence is deeply offensive to me as I believe nations much like individuals have the right of self-determination and autonomy. When other nations elect leaders in a fair way, the US has not moral or ethical right to interfere and impose violence on them because it does not get its way but sadly since the end of WWII the US (government) has committed hideous crime after crime without any repercussions whatsoever. Then the 2nd 9/11 happens, which horrible enough does not compare in the slightest to some of the atrocities the US government has committed but once again, "it happened to us", so everything is different.

In my ideal world I feel the same, but as overpopulated as we are(not enough resources to go around) and the fact that other nations would just do what we did or worse, I'm not so sure.  All I know is I'd rather be at the top than the bottom.

[Deicide]

In my ideal world I feel the same, but as overpopulated as we are(not enough resources to go around) and the fact that other nations would just do what we did or worse, I'm not so sure.  All I know is I'd rather be at the top than the bottom.

At least you are honest whilst people like BB just sleep through the fog. He is a Christian fundamentalist so facts probably aren't that compelling for him.

[Dos Equis]

So the most quote intellectual and author alive is just a fruitcake who is making things up?

Never happened, huh?

   No, I dispute your contention that the United States government "aided in the murder of thousands and tortured of tens of thousands."  I could give a rat's behind what other fellow America-hating liberal you can find to make the same allegation.  Pure fiction. 

And again, what in the world does this have to do with anything?  What point are you trying to make? 

[Deicide]

  No, I dispute your contention that the United States government "aided in the murder of thousands and tortured of tens of thousands."  I could give a rat's behind what other fellow America-hating liberal you can find to make the same allegation.  Pure fiction. 

And again, what in the world does this have to do with anything?  What point are you trying to make? 

My point is that US has done far more horrible things to other countries than compared to 9/11 purely in terms of human loss of life. You are the one who believes in fiction. Endless coups, assassinations, drug trafficking, arms trafficking, unconstitutional wars...yes, none of this has ever happened. If you don't mind that, at least admit it but do not befoul the memory of innocents who have died as a result of such actions, just be honest.

[Dos Equis]

My point is that US has done far more horrible things to other countries than compared to 9/11 purely in terms of human loss of life. You are the one who believes in fiction. Endless coups, assassinations, drug trafficking, arms trafficking, unconstitutional wars...yes, none of this has ever happened. If you don't mind that, at least admit it but do not befoul the memory of innocents who have died as a result of such actions, just be honest.

I see.  It's a moral equivalency argument.  Sorry, not buying.  What happened on 9/11 was horrible.  It doesn't make a hill beans difference if "far more horrible" things have been done in the past.  It doesn't justify the murder of innocents on 9/11.  It doesn't bring any of the dead back to life.  Completely irrelevant to 9/11. 

[Deicide]

  No, I dispute your contention that the United States government "aided in the murder of thousands and tortured of tens of thousands."  I could give a rat's behind what other fellow America-hating liberal you can find to make the same allegation.  Pure fiction. 

And again, what in the world does this have to do with anything?  What point are you trying to make? 

[Deicide]

I see.  It's a moral equivalency argument.  Sorry, not buying.  What happened on 9/11 was horrible.  It doesn't make a hill beans difference if "far more horrible" things have been done in the past.  It doesn't justify the murder of innocents on 9/11.  It doesn't bring any of the dead back to life.  Completely irrelevant to 9/11. 

No one said it justified anything but it should make US stop and think about our own wrong doing.