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Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« on: May 29, 2009, 08:07:14 AM »
Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
by Stuart Whatley

Beginning in the weeks leading up to President Obama's meetings with Middle Eastern leaders, the administration laid the groundwork for its strong position against Israeli settlements, marking a break from the soft-gloved approach of years past. And this week, tensions have increased between Obama and the new Israeli government under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, following their meeting last week when Obama said, "there is a clear understanding that we have to make progress on settlements; that settlements have to be stopped in order for us to move forward," the AP reports.

Netanyahu's frustration with the Obama administration's demands was made apparent Wednesday when, according to Foreign Policy, he vented to a confidante the question: "What the hell do they want from me?"

According to the Woodrow Wilson Center's Aaron David Miller, speaking to McClatchy, Obama's intransigence and direct rhetoric on the contentious settlements issue is risky policy. From McClatchy:

    "What we're seeing from the Obama administration is an uncharacteristically tough policy on settlements without a corresponding detailed strategy to justify it. It looks like a significant fight with the Israelis,"

    "They've essentially issued an ultimatum to Israel . It's a game of chicken, an Obama-Netanyahu game of chicken."

The Washington Post's Jackson Diehl, in his Friday column, discusses the intractability of the Israeli-Arab peace process as a "waiting game" where both sides refuse to budge until the other makes the first concessionary move. As Diehl points out, Obama's unprecedentedly tough approach to Israel -- which Miller describes as risky and incomplete -- is an attempt to break this impasse. From Diehl:

    Obama, in contrast, has repeatedly and publicly stressed the need for a West Bank settlement freeze, with no exceptions. In so doing he has shifted the focus to Israel. He has revived a long-dormant Palestinian fantasy: that the United States will simply force Israel to make critical concessions, whether or not its democratic government agrees, while Arabs passively watch and applaud. "The Americans are the leaders of the world," Abbas told me and Post Editorial Page Editor Fred Hiatt. "They can use their weight with anyone around the world. Two years ago they used their weight on us. Now they should tell the Israelis, 'You have to comply with the conditions.'"
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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 08:09:42 AM »
Good! It's about time we dismantled the Zionist apartheid state, sent the settlers back to their countries of origin, and returned the land to the owners.

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 06:26:29 PM »
Not really a lot of land left for them to take. Why bother now?

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 08:13:26 PM »
Don't leave out sending the israelis back to Germany so the Germans can finish the job..

No, how about we send them to kick you out of YOUR land and home and see how you like it then  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 08:33:15 PM »
I missed who the owners were..do u mean the worthless palestinians who sort just ended up there because nobody else wanted em....or maybe its the Romans who kicked the jews out in the first place.....
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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 08:34:15 PM »
I missed who the owners were..do u mean the worthless palestinians who sort just ended up there because nobody else wanted em....or maybe its the Romans who kicked the jews out in the first place.....

I mean the Palestinians who were living in their land and villages until 1948, most of whom were expelled by the usurping Zionist entity.

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 08:35:51 PM »
Yeah...there were jews there as well. My heart bleeds for em... ::)
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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 08:36:17 PM »
I missed who the owners were..do u mean the worthless palestinians who sort just ended up there because nobody else wanted em....or maybe its the Romans who kicked the jews out in the first place.....

Hmmmm... that's odd... I thought it was the Jews who ended up there because no one else wanted them?   :-\
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 08:37:38 PM »
Yeah...there were jews there as well. My heart bleeds for em... ::)

Your heart is of no concern whatsoever. The usurping Zionist entity will be dismantled, the apartheid regime and its settlers repatriated, and the rightful owners will retake their land.

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009, 08:38:22 PM »
All this means is they are ready to stop building settlements for now. The US economy is bad and unless it looks like they're making an effort people might realize how much money we're pissing away over there.

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009, 08:48:15 PM »
Your heart is of no concern whatsoever. The usurping Zionist entity will be dismantled, the apartheid regime and its settlers repatriated, and the rightful owners will retake their land.

Yeah...the IDF will have a say..arabs are horrible soldiers, and nobody in the Middle East wants the palestinians. Nobody is invading Israel and surviving.
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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 08:48:51 PM »
Your heart is of no concern whatsoever. The usurping Zionist entity will be dismantled, the apartheid regime and its settlers repatriated, and the rightful owners will retake their land.

You mean it will go back to the Jews that were there a few thousand years ago?  ???

It's war. They lost. Israeli land now. They got in bed with the right people. The Muslims didn't.


I assume that you'll be giving the land you're living on back to the Native Americans, though?

Yeah...the IDF will have a say..arabs are horrible soldiers, and nobody in the Middle East wants the palestinians. Nobody is invading Israel and surviving.

The Jordanians should have wiped them out when they wanted to back in the 70s after all the Black September shit.

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2009, 08:52:51 PM »
You mean it will go back to the Jews that were there a few thousand years ago?  ???

It's war. They lost. Israeli land now. They got in bed with the right people. The Muslims didn't.


I assume that you'll be giving the land you're living on back to the Native Americans, though?

Native Americans owned London?  ???

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 08:54:47 PM »
Native Americans owned London?  ???

Ahh, a European gimmick this time. Was directed more towards the Americans like "Doctor" Kaje that have no qualms about living on Native American land that was taken through force but want to tell others that they can't stay on land that they took through force.

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2009, 08:55:54 PM »
U Brits have enough problems with ur wacky immigration/political correctness issues to worry about Israel.
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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2009, 08:56:02 PM »
Ahh, a European gimmick this time. Was directed more towards the Americans like "Doctor" Kaje that have no qualms about living on Native American land that was taken through force but want to tell others that they can't stay on land that they took through force.

I will forgive you just this time, but only on account of your avatar  :P

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2009, 09:10:31 PM »
Shay Laren's her name if you want to dig up more of her. HugoChavez has apparently photographed her or some shit.

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2009, 10:51:56 PM »
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Good! It's about time we dismantled the Zionist apartheid state, sent the settlers back to their countries of origin, and returned the land to the owners.

So when are all the Palestinians going to go, since they were not there 2,000+ years ago.   

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2009, 11:12:08 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2009, 11:16:17 PM »
So when are all the Palestinians going to go, since they were not there 2,000+ years ago.   

Ron,firstly the unbelievably racist comment by SAMSON should get him banned, it's not the first time he spouse such racism.

Secondly, most of these morons have no knowledge of how Israel was formed, they think that before the Jews came there it was a prosperous area, it was filled by a couple of nomadic tribes with no nationality or relation.

The Palestinians were created WITH Israel, when the British mandate was dismantled , the problem was that the Arabs started a war and that the neighboring countries took the lands that the UN gave the "Palestinians".

People should understand that there is no such thing as a the Palestinian people before Israel was formed, they have nothing to do with the biblical Palestinians.

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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2009, 11:25:09 PM »
Ron,firstly the unbelievably racist comment by SAMSON should get him banned, it's not the first time he spouse such racism.

Secondly, most of these morons have no knowledge of how Israel was formed, they think that before the Jews came there it was a prosperous area, it was filled by a couple of nomadic tribes with no nationality or relation.

The Palestinians were created WITH Israel, when the British mandate was dismantled , the problem was that the Arabs started a war and that the neighboring countries took the lands that the UN gave the "Palestinians".

People should understand that there is no such thing as a the Palestinian people before Israel was formed, they have nothing to do with the biblical Palestinians.

I find that funny considering most Jews today, ...Israeli or otherwise have nothing to do with the biblical Jews. ;D
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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2009, 11:48:38 PM »
Ron,firstly the unbelievably racist comment by SAMSON should get him banned, it's not the first time he spouse such racism.

you post more racist hateful shit than anyone.


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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2009, 11:50:41 PM »
thank god finally an american president has at least some balls to stand up to the Zionist terrorists.
Conservative, christian politicians do nothing but lick their balls no matter what while the israelis just laugh at how easily the american christian gentile pigs are like putty in their hands.

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Re: Obama Takes Toughest Stance With Israel In A Generation
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2009, 12:01:12 AM »
Ron,firstly the unbelievably racist comment by SAMSON should get him banned, it's not the first time he spouse such racism.

Secondly, most of these morons have no knowledge of how Israel was formed, they think that before the Jews came there it was a prosperous area, it was filled by a couple of nomadic tribes with no nationality or relation.

The Palestinians were created WITH Israel, when the British mandate was dismantled , the problem was that the Arabs started a war and that the neighboring countries took the lands that the UN gave the "Palestinians".

People should understand that there is no such thing as a the Palestinian people before Israel was formed, they have nothing to do with the biblical Palestinians.

Thats actually not true...Palestinian intellectuals as early as 1910 were talking about a Palestinian People, theres various newspapers and archive documents that show it. By 1920's there was a definite Palestinian national consciousness, the Jewish intellectuals noticed it and didnt really know how to deal with it, since most had not anticipated the rise of an Arab nationalism to counter the Jewish nationalism...The best warning is given by Ahad Ha'am who visited Palestine in 1892 who stated that the Arabs would become nationalist if the Jewish settlements continued to grow