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Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience

The President discusses the breadth and depth of experience held by his nominee for the Supreme Court. In the course of a life that began in a housing project in the South Bronx and brought her to the pinnacle of her profession, Judge Sonia Sotomayor accumulated more experience on the federal bench than any incoming Supreme Court Justice in the past 100 years, touching nearly every aspect of our legal system. May 30, 2009. (Public Domain)
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 09:36:06 PM »
Just analysis: She's actually a brilliant political move...  If the 2nd amendment issues make the mainstream, republicans will be forced to go against her and the reason why they haven't in bulk now is because they want the hispanic vote... badly.  That's why we see some republicans telling rightwing talking heads to STFU on this.  If the media plays up the 2nd Amend issues, republicans are fucked...  They must be feeling a stalemate approaching....

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 09:47:54 PM »
Just analysis: She's actually a brilliant political move...  If the 2nd amendment issues make the mainstream, republicans will be forced to go against her and the reason why they haven't in bulk now is because they want the hispanic vote... badly.  That's why we see some republicans telling rightwing talking heads to STFU on this.  If the media plays up the 2nd Amend issues, republicans are fucked...  They must be feeling a stalemate approaching....
Brilliant move in many ways. Women...Hispanics...her compelling life story...it all makes for a swift confirmation.

Unfortunately for the repubes, they are being led by the hard right of the party, who are getting nastier by the day. Mostly these are white men not in political office, though we have to add the blonde Nazis Coulter and Ingram. Rush, Newt, Beck, Tancredo, Bucannan...these men (not surprisingly) are going extremely negative by calling the judge dumb, an affirmative action hire (something every minority who has achieved anything gets to be smeared with), and that she is a racist.

How are women and Hispanics supposed to feel about republicans after all this?  The comments are really over the top, and if the more moderate repubes don't reign these guys in, they are going to continue the destruction of their party. Very few moderate repubes holding an elected position have the guts to stand up to Rush.
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 09:59:19 PM »
Brilliant move in many ways. Women...Hispanics...her compelling life story...it all makes for a swift confirmation.

Unfortunately for the repubes, they are being led by the hard right of the party, who are getting nastier by the day. Mostly theses are white men not in political office, though we have to add the blonde Nazis Coulter and Ingram. Rush, Newt, Beck, Tancredo, Bucannan...these men (not surprisingly) are going extremely negative by calling the judge, dumb, an affirmative action hire (something every minority who has achieved anything gets to be smeared with), and that she is a racist.

How are women and Hispanics supposed to feel about republicans after all this?  The comments are really over the top, and if the more moderate repubes don't reign these guys in, they are going to continue the destruction of their party. Very few moderate repubes holding an elected position have the guts to stand up to Rush.
agree.  I didn't get it at first but it all came into focus earlier today.

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 10:47:30 PM »
I'm not sure, ...but if memory serves me correctly, ...didn't 240 call this one a long time ago?  ???

Hmmmm... wouldn't want to be playing chess with him.  :-\
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 10:57:35 PM »
I'm not sure, ...but if memory serves me correctly, ...didn't 240 call this one a long time ago?  ???

Hmmmm... wouldn't want to be playing chess with him.  :-\
call what?  reference please?  He may have, 240 makes some good calls...

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 11:00:01 PM »
call what?  reference please?  He may have, 240 makes some good calls...

240 predicted that Obama would name a qualified hispanic female to replace Souter on the Supreme Court.
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 11:23:07 PM »
240 predicted that Obama would name a qualified hispanic female to replace Souter on the Supreme Court.
who were you replying to?  Benny or me? 

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 11:28:17 PM »
who were you replying to?  Benny or me? 

Dah! Who asked me the question? ...and who did I quote in my reply?  Of course I'm replying to you silly. :D
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 11:32:46 PM »
Dah! Who asked me the question? ...and who did I quote in my reply?  Of course I'm replying to you silly. :D
no I meant the original statement you made.  "Who were you replying to" vs. "Who are you replying to"

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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2009, 12:12:04 AM »
no I meant the original statement you made.  "Who were you replying to" vs. "Who are you replying to"

I guess I was kind of replying to both of you since you were agreeing with Benny's statement.

ps: In this latest post, ...I'm replying to YOU.  ;D
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2009, 01:25:20 AM »
I guess I was kind of replying to both of you since you were agreeing with Benny's statement.

ps: In this latest post, ...I'm replying to YOU.  ;D
well then if you were replying to me in any way, I'm not sure your statement on 240's call is relevant to what I said.  You're just basically saying 240 called a hispanic nomination, which is a good call but doesn't apply to the analysis of the call.

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2009, 01:38:54 AM »
well then if you were replying to me in any way, I'm not sure your statement on 240's call is relevant to what I said.  You're just basically saying 240 called a hispanic nomination, which is a good call but doesn't apply to the analysis of the call.

I remember his reasoning being somewhat similar to the analysis Benny gave. Not sure... may have to look it up.
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 11:30:17 PM »
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Sotomayor said: ``I would hope a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.''

If she had said that statement if she was white, or a man, or a Republican,   we would have people marching on the street, demanding firing and an apology.

Since she is Hispanic and a women, we can forgive her pathetic statement of her being superior.


WTF - and they will confirm this person....

Amazing...


I am all for a Hispanic women on the Supreme Court, but one of thinks she is better than others... no


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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 11:41:06 PM »
If she had said that statement if she was white, or a man, or a Republican,   we would have people marching on the street, demanding firing and an apology.

Since she is Hispanic and a women, we can forgive her pathetic statement of her being superior.


WTF - and they will confirm this person....

Amazing...


I am all for a Hispanic women on the Supreme Court, but one of thinks she is better than others... no


Ron, I understand you're both displeased & put off by her statement, but isn't the operative part of that sentence
"who hasn't lived that life." Let's not take these these out of context. To what life was she referring?
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 03:09:30 AM »
I'm sure Sotomayor will make a fine judge.

But the whole race obsession that so many - Sotomayor included - in the US seem to have is just fucked up.
Her comparison on herself and a white male is just stupid.

However, getting her on the court may help to get everyone less focused on race.   

IMO, a black/white president has made the race issue less prevalent.
I don't for a minute think anyone should be placed as president to deal with racial issues, the whole 'white man's burden', and inferiority complex of blacks.
But it's a nice side effect. A bonus if you will.
It struck me just the other day btw - I think Obama is a religious nut, doesn't have the balls to deal with the banks, et al.
But he is quickly becoming the leader of the free world.
And doing a pretty good job with it.
I honestly don't understand why so many of you Americans have so much antipathy towards the guy. Sure, I understand that you disagree with his policies. But he does a pretty good job of representing the USA.

Kind of how Kennedy was - wasn't the greatest pres, but represented the USA awesomely. Nixon was probably a (much) better politician, but Kennedy had the golden boy image.

Not much of anti-Americanism today. Is that worth anything?
   
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2009, 03:36:04 AM »
I'm sure Sotomayor will make a fine judge.

But the whole race obsession that so many - Sotomayor included - in the US seem to have is just fucked up.
Her comparison on herself and a white male is just stupid.

It is a uniquely American phenomenon  :-\


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However, getting her on the court may help to get everyone less focused on race.   

Only after the neo-cons and extreme right wing puppet masters stop pulling the right wings strings.

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IMO, a black/white president has made the race issue less prevalent.

It has, ...but some folks still wish for the good ol days, and refuse to let it die it's long overdue death.  :-\

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But he is quickly becoming the leader of the free world.
And doing a pretty good job with it.
I honestly don't understand why so many of you Americans have so much antipathy towards the guy. Sure, I understand that you disagree with his policies. But he does a pretty good job of representing the USA.

Most guys doing the screaming don't have a clue about the world outside of the US borders.
They have absolutely NO idea how well he is doing, ...and the extreme right wants it that way.

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Kind of how Kennedy was - wasn't the greatest pres, but represented the USA awesomely. Nixon was probably a (much) better politician, but Kennedy had the golden boy image.

Let's hope he's not like Kennedy in every way.

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Not much of anti-Americanism today. Is that worth anything?
   

There's still alot of anti-Americanism these days, ...it's just that more of it is coming from within the USA  ;D
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2009, 03:44:26 AM »
It is a uniquely American phenomenon  :-\


Only after the neo-cons and extreme right wing puppet masters stop pulling the right wings strings.

It has, ...but some folks still wish for the good ol days, and refuse to let it die it's long overdue death.  :-\

Most guys doing the screaming don't have a clue about the world outside of the US borders.
They have absolutely NO idea how well he is doing, ...and the extreme right wants it that way.

Let's hope he's not like Kennedy in every way.

There's still alot of anti-Americanism these days, ...it's just that more of it is coming from within the USA  ;D
a smug smart-ass post from jag - why am I not surprised? ::)
 
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2009, 04:15:31 AM »
a smug smart-ass post from jag - why am I not surprised? ::)
 

Because you've read my posts over the past 5 years.  ;D
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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2009, 07:19:14 AM »
Its funny how the left keeps saying "if republicans go against her they risk loosing the hispanic vote".Really?We just ran a guy that WROTE the amnesty bill.Did the hispanics vote for him?

I also find it amazing that we get libs saying implying that being against her is "racist" yet they went after Clarence Thomas with a venom never before seen.His story was MORE compelling then hers,he came from a harder background and he was African American.Yet libs tried to destroy him with ZERO bite back.Incredible how THEY get to decide whats racist and what isnt.

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2009, 07:20:48 AM »
Its funny how the left keeps saying "if republicans go against her they risk loosing the hispanic vote".Really?We just ran a guy that WROTE the amnesty bill.Did the hispanics vote for him?

I also find it amazing that we get libs saying implying that being against her is "racist" yet they went after Clarence Thomas with a venom never before seen.His story was MORE compelling then hers,he came from a harder background and he was African American.Yet libs tried to destroy him with ZERO bite back.Incredible how THEY get to decide whats racist and what isnt.

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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2009, 07:58:44 AM »
Its funny how the left keeps saying "if republicans go against her they risk loosing the hispanic vote".Really?We just ran a guy that WROTE the amnesty bill.Did the hispanics vote for him?

I also find it amazing that we get libs saying implying that being against her is "racist" yet they went after Clarence Thomas with a venom never before seen.His story was MORE compelling then hers,he came from a harder background and he was African American.Yet libs tried to destroy him with ZERO bite back.Incredible how THEY get to decide whats racist and what isnt.


I think it's very justified to press Sotomayor about what definitely could be perceived as flat out racism.

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2009, 09:03:09 AM »
I'd like to look past her comment too....if she said that her life experiences put her in a position to offer a richer perspective to the court, few would have had a problem with that.  She chose her words very poorly and said her race and gender makes her a better judge than white males.  Hard to argue with what she said, it was quite racial.
The other issue is that we must have laws that apply equally to all.  One's upbringing may give a richer perspective but we cannot apply the nations laws differently to each citizen because of race.  Thats what we are trying to get away from and the evils of past minority discrimination.

The decision with the white and hispanic firefighters also bothers me greatly.  I don't see how you could prevent those individuals from getting a promotion because of their race.  Seems clearly racist.  I expect that verdict to be overturned.  We must treat people equally in this country.

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2009, 09:15:52 AM »
I'd like to look past her comment too....if she said that her life experiences put her in a position to offer a richer perspective to the court, few would have had a problem with that.  She chose her words very poorly and said her race and gender makes her a better judge than white males.  Hard to argue with what she said, it was quite racial.
The other issue is that we must have laws that apply equally to all.  One's upbringing may give a richer perspective but we cannot apply the nations laws differently to each citizen because of race.  Thats what we are trying to get away from and the evils of past minority discrimination.

The decision with the white and hispanic firefighters also bothers me greatly.  I don't see how you could prevent those individuals from getting a promotion because of their race.  Seems clearly racist.  I expect that verdict to be overturned.  We must treat people equally in this country.

Look, the woman is definately qualified.  Obama was elected and he gets his choice, which is not the person I would choose.  That being said, debating and discussing Sotomayors' legal decisions is purely fair game.     

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Re: Weekly Address: President Obama on Judge Sotomayors Experience
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2009, 10:06:54 AM »
Look, the woman is definitely qualified.  Obama was elected and he gets his choice, which is not the person I would choose.  That being said, debating and discussing Sotomayors' legal decisions is purely fair game.     

Whats sad is you have guys like Schmuck Schumer trying to threaten ANYONE who dares question a hispanic by beating them over the head with the race card.This disgrace went after Alito,and made himself look like an incompetent ass in the process,but republicans cant dare ask a question of a minority or they do so "at their own peril".Thats very sad.