Can Europe stem the tide of Muslim growth and immigration?

[Deicide]

This is scary stuff. I even remember 10 years ago, there were much fewer Muslims than now.
Very scary...

[SAMSON123]

Islam is the best thing to ever come to europe

[Deicide]

Islam is the best thing to ever come to europe

You are smoking crack. I hope you are joking...

[SAMSON123]

You are smoking crack. I hope you are joking...

I don't smoke anything...

[Deicide]

I don't smoke anything...

Why do you think that is a good thing?

[Slapper]

Islam is shit.

Same with all other religions.

[Purple Aki]

Islam is the best thing to ever come to europe

Nah, it was the Griswalds, in my opinion.

[Deicide]

Islam is shit.

Same with all other religions.

True but Islam is a foreign element to Europe.  As a European I worry about the future of Europe. Like I said 10 years ago it wasn't this bad.

[GigantorX]

True but Islam is a foreign element to Europe.  As a European I worry about the future of Europe. Like I said 10 years ago it wasn't this bad.

Give it about another 25-50 years and it will be white Europe which will be a foreign element.

Either way, Europe needs to open the floodgates and let them in because their own birthrates are declining. They need workers to help support their socialist states and the welfare/benefits that go along with it.

France will most likely be the first to go.

Just my opinion, though.

[Slapper]

True but Islam is a foreign element to Europe.  As a European I worry about the future of Europe. Like I said 10 years ago it wasn't this bad.

Believe me, Europe will not fall in Islam's hands. There is friction all over the place. I mean, when I was in Spain I remember reading the newspapers there and getting a sense that there was a certain Islamophobe undertone (google "violence in El Ejido" for example).

To be honest patience is already wearing thin in many places around Europe. I don't think it has reached a boiling point yet, but it is getting there. And governments will not do anything about it because it is "free" labor that you are talking about (since their job is to serve only the elites).

What happened in Paris a couple of years ago is a warning. Many of those people had legitimate concerns and complaints about racism, but it all got drowned out in the sea of violence. I guarantee you that come another 2-3 outbursts of violence, ala Paris, and as Daniel Day Lewis once said "the will be blood".

[Hereford]

For Deicide:

[SAMSON123]

For Deicide:

You gave Decide a little red X...how thoughtful...

Ooops now it is working

[MCWAY]

This is scary stuff. I even remember 10 years ago, there were much fewer Muslims than now.
Very scary...

Folks have been saying that for the last 5 years, at least. The Europeans ain't having enough babies; their birthrates are severly low and, at this rate, the Muslims will overpopulate them.

Europe (some of it, anyway) prides itself on being void of religious beliefs; but, if this keeps up, they'll be bowing the knee to Allah sooner than later.

 

[GigantorX]

Folks have been saying that for the last 5 years, at least. The Europeans ain't having enough babies; their birthrates are severly low and, at this rate, the Muslims will overpopulate them.

Europe (some of it, anyway) prides itself on being void of religious beliefs; but, if this keeps up, they'll be bowing the knee to Allah sooner than later.

 

One could say that Europe is too pacifist and apathetic to really care what will result from the flood of Muslims who refuse to integrate, use their welfare and simply sit tight and out populate them. The riots in France SHOULD have been a stern wake up call to not only France, but Europe as a whole. There is simply to much accommodation and to much babying of the Muslims to ever have them NEED or WANT to integrate into Europe. Teo Van Gogh was murdered in cold blood for him simply making a video condemning Islam, but in there really was no response (I could be wrong). The govts. should have stood up and taken notice, instead they accommodated more. And, Arabs no longer call themselves "French-Arabs" they are simply "Muslims" now.

How long until the various European govts, in an attempt to accommodate the Muslims simply outlaw Christianity and force all to be Muslim? And I know it's totally over the top, but I said it to illustrate a point.

[Fury]

Debussey can tell you about the anti-Muslim sentiment running through Norway right now.

Really though, they have no one to blame but themselves. Their refusal to assimilate, constant attempts to control freedom of speech, the extremist baggage most of them bring with them and other reasons are why people are tired of them.

What would happen if I moved to Saudi Arabia and tried to change everything? I'd have my head cut off. Yet they think it's ok for them to infest Europe and try to change it to how they like it. No thanks. Like Australia's PM iterated, they're more than welcome to leave if they don't like it.

[MCWAY]

Debussey can tell you about the anti-Muslim sentiment running through Norway right now.

Really though, they have no one to blame but themselves. Their refusal to assimilate, constant attempts to control freedom of speech, the extremist baggage most of them bring with them and other reasons are why people are tired of them.

What would happen if I moved to Saudi Arabia and tried to change everything? I'd have my head cut off. Yet they think it's ok for them to infest Europe and try to change it to how they like it. No thanks. Like Australia's PM iterated, they're more than welcome to leave if they don't like it.

Being tired of it is one thing. Doing something about it is quite another.

[Hereford]

If Europeans are anything like Americans, they are too lazy to do anything about it.

[shootfighter1]

Good posts.  This is a real problem IMO.  European Governments want to be good, just and allow freedom and equality to all...which is great, except that most muslims want to push their beliefs, traditions and laws to the areas the immigrate too.  This cannot be tolerated.  I believe in freedom of religion as well but Islam is one of the most backward, archaeic religions there is and their religion and culture is inseperable.

Why do so many muslims immigrate to Europe anyway, what is wrong with their homelands?  If I were to move to another country, I'd want to respect their culture, traditions and people.  If Europe wants to preserve their culture, traditions and history, they must be proactive in preventing a muslim takeover.

[MCWAY]

Good posts.  This is a real problem IMO.  Europeans want to be good people and allow freedom and equality to all...which is great, except that most muslims want to push their beliefs, traditions and laws to the areas the immigrate too.  This cannot be tolerated.  I believe in freedom of religion as well but Islam is one of the most backward, archeaic religions there is and their religion and culture is inseperable.

Why do so many muslims immigrate to Europe anyway, what is wrong with their homelands?  If I were to move to another country, I'd want to respect their culture, traditions and people.  If Europe wants to preserve their culture, traditions and history, they must be proactive in preventing a muslim takeover.

Their homelands don't allow them to rake in enough $$$$$$$!!!!

If Europeans are anything like Americans, they are too lazy to do anything about it.

I beg to differ on that one. Conservative Americans and those who recognize this country's Judeo-Christian heritage are willing and able to stand up for it.

Their liberal counterparts, on the other hand tend to mirror the Europeans.