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Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« on: June 01, 2009, 06:54:00 AM »
Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences.....(The impact of the Obama train wreck)
American Thinker ^ | June 01, 2009 | Lee Cary

Posted on Monday, June 01, 2009 7:47:23 AM by IrishMike

Entirely predictable, the unintended consequences of nationalization of GM and Chrysler will still come as a surprise to Obama partisans and the media.

Some of the acronyms will remain the same, but their meanings will change. GM becomes Government Motors; GMAC is Government Motors Assistance Corporation. Chrysler becomes part Italian, part U.S. government -- an arranged international marriage. Like dinosaurs mating.

Played for chumps, the bondholders from both original companies are left with chump change on the dollar. Pieces of the old GM, like Saturn or Hummer, will disperse like orphans of a dismembered family. Some may live on with others; others will die off in some backwater market.

The federal government will have its sought-after mechanism to coerce us into small, fuel efficient vehicles. The American Green Fleet. Heralded as a partnership between the American labor movement and an enlightened government energy policy, the consumer of an American Green car will be called patriotic.

In Government Motors ads, unsolicited testimonials from delighted customers will champion the enhanced life style of being able to spend less money on gas, and more on, well, other things. A GMAC ad will tell how buyers can take advantage of a special tax deduction by buying their Green Car on President's Day, or Labor Day weekend.

It will, in short, be the completed merger of hard automotive manufacturing science with the specious science of manmade global warming.

For awhile, all will seem well -- until the Law of Unintended Consequences accelerates the train wreck toward an ugly impact.

The federal government and their junior partners, the United Auto Workers, will be like the two dogs that chased the garbage truck every day. One day the truck stopped and the dogs caught it. Now what do they do?

Nevermind why the garbage trucked stopped. Maybe it started stalling when senior management car guys, who knew how to make, and loved making, cars passed their leadership on to bean counters and sales-hype types. Or, maybe it was hubris born of unchallenged success. For some executives the motto "What's good for GM is good for America" became scripture. But consumers stopped reading that scripture in the 1970's.

On January 15, 1953, GM President and CEO Charles "Engine Charlie" Wilson, testifying before a congressional hearing on his appointment as Secretary of Defense in the Eisenhower administration, said,

"[F]or years I thought what was good for our country was good for General Motors and vice versa. The difference did not exist. Our company is too big. It goes with the welfare of the country."

Had Charlie seen the future, he might have said, "It goes on the welfare of the country." His beloved company became one of the biggest -- some banks are bigger still -- among the nation's new mega-welfare recipients. With many more welfare checks to come.

The Obama administration may assume that GM and Chrysler customers will remain loyal to the brands. But look, there weren't enough loyal customers last year to save them. So the government car wizards must assume that the new, leaner GM and Chrysler will lure customers away from Ford and the foreign brands. But wait, Ford's been gaining market share against the two new government automobile companies lately.

So down the track awaits Unintended Consequence (UC) #1: The old GM and Chrysler that once commanded a cadre of loyal customers now has new owners. Who's to say they'll remain loyal? When your favorite restaurant comes under new ownership, and that ownership has a reputation for serving bad food elsewhere, do you keep eating there? Only if you want food poisoning.

When sales of Chevy's and Hemi's continue to decline, the government will have to act to protect their -- meaning "our" -- investment (bailout). That'll require special tax breaks for Chevy-Hemi buyers, and higher taxes on those who buy other brands in order to make up the lost treasury revenues.

When that doesn't work, here comes UC #2: Additional tariffs on imported automobiles. But since many foreign brands are now manufactured in U.S. plants, that's won't work. So, foreign manufacturers operating U.S. plants will be subject to a Value Added Tax (VAT) to subsidize unsold government cars.

When people prefer the quality and superior fuel efficiency technologies of, say, Toyota and Honda, that'll trigger UC #3: Forced downsizing, and even closure, of foreign brand U.S. manufacturing plants in the face of government pressure to unionize their work force. That means lost jobs for non-union American auto workers. The UAW will cry crocodile tears.

UC #3 will trigger UC #4: Tariff retaliation from nations who have auto plants here but also import products from the U.S. In short, a trade war.


And then there's that major fault line in the Obama administration's plan for the American Green Fleet. The federal government has taken over much of an industry that it knows nothing about operating for a profit. In fact, it has no clue how to operate anything for a profit. It's only knows how to be a cost center, not a profit center.

So the government -- meaning "we" -- will subsidize the inevitable, sustained losses of Government Motors and the new Chrysler. Ten of billions more coming in bailouts.

And that will lead to UC#5: We won't have enough money to keep GM and Chrysler alive indefinitely, even with the Federal Reserve's printing presses running in overdrive. The only way for GM and Chrysler to succeed, for awhile longer, will be for the government to substantially reduce competition from foreign brands and tax gas to the point that Ford's profitabile reliance on trucks and SUV sales drives it, too, into bankruptcy. Anyone want to bet against that eventually happening?

Then, finally, there's UC #6: Many us have bought our last GM or Chrysler product and will abstain from further purchases on the following consumer principle, that still lives in this as yet only partially socialized nation.


"The real bosses, in the capitalist system of market economy, are the consumers. They, by their buying and by their abstention from buying, decide who should own the capital and run the plants. They determine what should be produced and in what quantity and quality. Their attitudes result either in profit or in loss for the enterprises. They make poor men rich and rich men poor. They are no easy bosses. They are full of whims and fancies, changeable and unpredictable. They do not care a whit for past merit. As soon as something is offered to them that they like better or that is cheaper, they desert their old purveyors. With them nothing counts more than their own satisfaction. They bother neither about the vested interest of capitalists nor about the fate of the workers who lose their jobs if, as consumers, they no longer buy what they used to buy." Bureaucracy, Ludwig von Mises, 1944, pp. 20-21

To succeed, the Obama administration will ultimately have to monopolize most of the U.S. auto fleet. Half-way measures won't work. Just ask the USPS about their competitive disadvantages in operating against FedEx, UPS, et al.

The impact of the train wreck that will complete the devolution of the U.S. auto industry is coming. And it won't be pretty.

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Someone please explain to me how what the govt is doing is not the textbook definition of "Facism"????

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 06:57:26 AM »
This is actually a consequence of our allowing Japan to practice comparative pricing 20+ years ago and refusing to put a proper tariff on imported autos. We've also had the capacity to produce more fuel efficient cars since the 50s but didn't want to alienate US oil producers.

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2009, 06:59:22 AM »
This is actually a consequence of our allowing Japan to practice comparative pricing 20+ years ago and refusing to put a proper tariff on imported autos. We've also had the capacity to produce more fuel efficient cars since the 50s but didn't want to alienate US oil producers.

Dont underestimate the cost of carrying 500,000 retirees who take out a ton of $$$$ from the company.

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 07:09:35 AM »
Dont underestimate the cost of carrying 500,000 retirees who take out a ton of $$$$ from the company.

We should have been protecting US jobs long term but no one listened and now it's too late.

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 07:17:01 AM »
We should have been protecting US jobs long term but no one listened and now it's too late.

The best way to protect jobs is to produce great products at a competitive price and not be saddled with unecessary regulations, costs, and union work rules.   

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 07:46:00 AM »
The best way to protect jobs is to produce great products at a competitive price and not be saddled with unecessary regulations, costs, and union work rules.   

Comparative pricing allowed countries to charge different rates for goods. Some kind of tariff on foreign goods should have been imposed forever ago.

We could make a more fuel efficient vehicle immediately but choose not to because of several reasons. The main 2 being gas taxes and an oil monopoly. Now that people are driving less govts are raising property taxes to off set the losses. Jobs being exported (NAFTA & GAT) and/or outsourced has weakened the tax base too far but no one was paying attention to how poor they were getting because there is so much cheap stuff coming out of china. Were unions greedy in a lot of cases? Hell yes, but some of what they were trying to prevent came true because the American public really didn't see any harm coming from Illegals doing jobs we were too proud to do or people in Bangladesh answering tech support questions. As far as the oil monopoly goes..... we haven't built a new refinery in ages because no one can afford to comply with the restrictions. Another simple fact is that US oil producers can't make money below $25-30/barrel. Below that price it's actually not worth pumping it. Gas has to be at about $1.60/gal (before taxes) to keep their industry solvent. This is why we aren't seeing more fuel efficient vehicles, increased ethanol usage or hybrids more people can afford.

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 07:49:36 AM »
The fact is that people like driving trucks and there is no reason why the customer should not get what they want.  GM & Ford make great trucks, not little 4 cylinder go carts. 


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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 01:31:18 PM »
Our govt. has let other nations manipulate their currencies, have closed markets to our products and dump their products in our markets for quite some time. S. Korea will not let the U.S. to export cars into their market, instead GM had to purchase an almost bankrupt Daewoo to gain access. Although ALL S. Korean producers got to set up manufacturing plants in the U.S. with plenty of financial breaks at the Federal and State levels and import all the cars they wanted as well.

Japan has depends on a weak Yen as their economy is tilted in favor of exports. They have just about funded all of their auto companies research into hybrid vehicles, have very closed markets when it comes to importing American goods and have always manipulated their currency to gain a significant price advantage in American markets.

What did the U.S. do? Nothing much really. While our own industries were being gutted and shipped out to more affordable regions, our govt. rooted them on and really thought nothing of a future where the U.S. has lost all of its industrial base. Well, that time is drawing closer.

We are really good at producing reality TV, debt and wild financial vehicles though.

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 01:41:35 PM »
This is actually a consequence of our allowing Japan to practice comparative pricing 20+ years ago and refusing to put a proper tariff on imported autos. We've also had the capacity to produce more fuel efficient cars since the 50s but didn't want to alienate US oil producers.

Yes, because the best way to support American business is to tax the competition back down onto our level.  ::)

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 01:57:11 PM »
Yes, because the best way to support American business is to tax the competition back down onto our level.  ::)

That def. doesn't work.

All I would want is a balanced approach that at least tries to put foreign and domestic concerns on a level playing field. It's naive' but it's better than the mess we have at this point.

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 02:01:03 PM »
That def. doesn't work.

All I would want is a balanced approach that at least tries to put foreign and domestic concerns on a level playing field. It's naive' but it's better than the mess we have at this point.

Its simple math.   They cannot product cars at a profit with their fixed cost structure.   

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 02:58:08 PM »
Its simple math.   They cannot product cars at a profit with their fixed cost structure.   

Yep. There has always been a "magic number" concerning the amount of sales needed to support that fixed cost structure. In 2004 they dropped below that number, never to return.

I mean, at the end they had 180 billion dollars in debt to only 85 billion in assets.

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Re: Chrysler, GM, and the Law of Unintended Consequences...
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 03:04:56 PM »
They have been screwed for a long time. It's doubtful we learned anything from ENRON and the employees will end up taking a bath while Wall Street was allowed time to bail out.