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Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« on: June 02, 2009, 07:02:36 AM »
Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
Tuesday, June 2, 2009

Former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina is armed with money and the support of well-placed Republicans for a possible run against Democratic U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer next year. But she's also got something that has dogged other wealthy political neophytes - a spotty voting record.

Fiorina, 54, of Los Altos Hills, who recently acknowledged that she is "seriously considering" a run, has voted in about 1 in 4 of the national, state and local elections in which she was eligible to cast a ballot since she registered in the Bay Area as a Republican in 2000, according to Santa Clara County records.

She didn't vote in presidential primaries in 2000 and 2004, the county's Registrar of Voters database shows. Nor did Fiorina cast a ballot in the primary or general elections in 2006, when Californians last voted for a U.S. senator, re-electing Democrat Dianne Feinstein.

In gubernatorial elections, the former HP chief didn't vote in general and primary elections in 2002 - the year Gray Davis was re-elected governor; she again failed to vote in the historic 2003 special election - the California gubernatorial recall that unseated Davis and brought Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger to power.

By not voting, Fiorina also failed to weigh in on a number of key educational, environmental and fiscal issues before voters - from library and park funding to school literacy programs. Among them: 2004's Proposition 57, the $15 billion statewide Economic Recovery Bond Act; 2004's Proposition 47, the $13 billion state bond to renovate public schools; and 2006's Proposition 84, which sought to promote clean energy and preserve California's environment.

"Carly acknowledges that she didn't vote some of the time - and she readily acknowledges that it's never good not to vote," Fiorina's chief of staff, Deborah Bowker, said Monday, adding that Fiorina doesn't dispute the records.

any ceos skip votes

But with just a year until Californians decide the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate next June, Fiorina's voting record could affect her prospects, experts say.

To many voters, "it's an abrogation of your rights as a citizen and it shows you didn't have time to care about the greater good," said Barbara O'Connor, professor of political communication at Cal State Sacramento. "It's citizens' responsibility to take their part in a democracy."

But a Business Week investigation of 100 top executives in 2000 found that "precious few" of the business elite cast ballots in often-critical state and local elections dating back as far as the 1980s. As CEO of Halliburton Co. in the late 1990s, Dick Cheney - who was elected vice president in 2000 - skipped 14 of 16 state and local elections. Oracle's Larry Ellison was registered but didn't vote during the period reviewed, the magazine said.

Meg Whitman, the 2010 GOP gubernatorial candidate who was CEO of eBay at the time of the magazine's study, was cited in the report as representative of an exclusive executive group with "worse than spotty" voting records. The magazine could not find a voter registration for Whitman, who didn't register even after being notified by the magazine, the report said.

The Chronicle reported last year that Whitman, an Atherton resident, registered in San Mateo County in 2002 as a decline-to-state voter and registered as a Republican in 2007. The billionaire businesswoman did not vote in more than half the federal, state and local elections after she registered to vote in the county, records show.

Al Checchi, the unsuccessful California Democratic gubernatorial candidate in 1998 and former Northwest Airlines executive, was also hurt by admitting to failing to cast ballots in four of the six California elections before his run, missing critical primary and general election ballots.

Whitman and Checchi said they regretted not voting, adding that they were busy or traveling on business. Such excuses don't play well with voters, O'Connor said.

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"We're all busy," she said. "You get an absentee ballot. It's a no-brainer."

The spotlight on Fiorina's voting record comes as her potential U.S. Senate candidacy has taken a higher profile in recent weeks.

Fiorina was diagnosed with breast cancer in March, and insiders say her prognosis and treatment have given her an excellent outlook. Republican insiders say she has been quietly meeting with "Kitchen Cabinet" advisers, rounding up potential fundraisers and campaign staffers, and putting out signals that she is preparing for a U.S. Senate run.

National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman John Cornyn of Texas has said he hopes to recruit Fiorina in the run against Boxer as a means of widening party appeal in California.

"I'm absolutely committed to recruiting candidates around the country that fit their states," Cornyn told Politico.com. "It really is a recipe for permanent minority status and irrelevance if we don't pay attention to the arithmetic and get back to a position so we can shape legislation."

Field Poll director Mark DiCamillo said Fiorina's voting record may hand potential opponents some potent ammunition.

"It's almost a race to see how they can frame it before the other guys get a chance," he said. "That could be one (where) the opposition side would say that she's not committed to public policy."

DiCamillo predicted that with Boxer - the incumbent and odds-on favorite for re-election - ramping up her campaign and collecting campaign cash, "you will see her trying to game voters' impressions."

candidates' spotty voting

Carly Fiorina
(former HP CEO, possible candidate for U.S. Senate)
-- Voted in 5 of 18 elections, 2000-08

Meg Whitman
(former eBay CEO, candidate for California governor)
-- Voted in 6 of 13 elections, 2002-07

Dick Cheney
(former Halliburton CEO, former U.S. vice president)
-- Voted in 2 of 16 Texas elections in five years in '90s

Al Checchi
(ex-Northwest Airlines exec, candidate for governor in 1998)
-- Voted in 2 of 6 elections before his run

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 07:04:17 AM »
Here we go again.   ::)

As I have said before, failing to vote is disqualifying because not voting tells us that the person does not care about public affairs or public service at all; they are only in the political arena to serve themselves (ego, money, connections).  That is not unusual in politics (or any number of other fields) but to see voting as a priority only when you (or your personal friend) are running for office is pretty transparent.  Sorry Carly: no sale.

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 02:01:12 PM »
Will someone please tell Carly that looks matter?  She is not going to get elected looking like this.  :-[


Fiorina, targeting Boxer, is still cultivating her base
On paper, she is unwaveringly conservative. Off the cuff, she sometimes sounds more moderate.

As Senate candidate Carly Fiorina spoke to a standing-room-only meeting of local Republicans here, she hit familiar points -- her rise to become leader of Hewlett-Packard, her "common sense" approach to fixing the nation's economy and her pledge to give incumbent Barbara Boxer the fight of her life.

Amid all the fiscal talk, Fiorina dropped in a line about her conservative social beliefs.

"Barbara Boxer has never faced a candidate like me. . . . I will not permit her, for example, just to assume that all the women of California will vote for her," Fiorina told hundreds of people crowded in a hotel ballroom. "I say this as a proud pro-life conservative who believes marriage is between a man and a woman."

The fact that Fiorina felt compelled to detail her views on abortion and same-sex marriage underscores one of her greatest challenges as she seeks the Republican nomination: The party's most faithful voters are not convinced she is one of them.

Part of the reason is that, unlike her primary opponents, Assemblyman Chuck DeVore of Irvine and former U.S. Rep. Tom Campbell, Fiorina is an unknown political quantity. She has never sought election to public office before now, so she doesn't have a paper trail of legislation, statements and votes... http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fiorina1-2010feb01,0,3925194.story

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2010, 02:04:15 PM »
She was the person most loudly defending Mccain's defense of the Bush tax cuts.  You know, the ones Mccain opposed rightly for 7 years before deciding to run for president.

She definitely has that stink on her.

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 02:07:28 PM »
She was the person most loudly defending Mccain's defense of the Bush tax cuts.  You know, the ones Mccain opposed rightly for 7 years before deciding to run for president.

She definitely has that stink on her.

Unreal, here a person who actually did something in the private sector, and you idiots are going to vote for Barbara Boxer? 

We deserve the hell we face with idiots voting for people like Barbara Boxer. 

Remember this gem from that disgusting girl? 





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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 02:12:09 PM »
nobody's defending the turd Boxer.  At least I'm not.  She's one of my top 5 least liked people in politics.

Is it possible, in some universe, that they both majorly suck?

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2010, 02:12:46 PM »
Unreal, here a person who actually did something in the private sector, and you idiots are going to vote for Barbara Boxer? 

We deserve the hell we face with idiots voting for people like Barbara Boxer. 

Remember this gem from that disgusting ####? 






The Bush tax cuts were GREAT for the country!!!Under Bush and the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS America was in great shape,the minute the dems took the house it all fell apart.Boxer"please call me senator" is finnished!!

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2010, 02:15:27 PM »
Fiorina needs to run this clip 24/7. 

Barbara Boxer/Pelosi/Feinstein/Wasserman-Shultz/ and rest of these liberal hags need to go. 

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 02:23:33 PM »
Who do you think looks and sounds more Jewish,Wasserman-Shultz or Chuck Shumer?

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 02:25:46 PM »
Who do you think looks and sounds more Jewish,Wasserman-Shultz or Chuck Shumer?

Bro - I live in NYC - I cant tell.  Probably Anothy Weiner or Gary Ackerman or that other slob Nadler take the cake on the Jewish accent though. 

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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2010, 02:28:50 PM »
nobody's defending the turd Boxer.  At least I'm not.  She's one of my top 5 least liked people in politics.

Is it possible, in some universe, that they both majorly suck?

Bang - a pro-business woman who understand business.  We dont need anymore communists like Boxer/Pelosi/ et al. 


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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2010, 02:34:28 PM »
Will someone please tell Carly that looks matter?  She is not going to get elected looking like this.  :-[


Fiorina, targeting Boxer, is still cultivating her base
On paper, she is unwaveringly conservative. Off the cuff, she sometimes sounds more moderate.

As Senate candidate Carly Fiorina spoke to a standing-room-only meeting of local Republicans here, she hit familiar points -- her rise to become leader of Hewlett-Packard, her "common sense" approach to fixing the nation's economy and her pledge to give incumbent Barbara Boxer the fight of her life.

Amid all the fiscal talk, Fiorina dropped in a line about her conservative social beliefs.

"Barbara Boxer has never faced a candidate like me. . . . I will not permit her, for example, just to assume that all the women of California will vote for her," Fiorina told hundreds of people crowded in a hotel ballroom. "I say this as a proud pro-life conservative who believes marriage is between a man and a woman."

The fact that Fiorina felt compelled to detail her views on abortion and same-sex marriage underscores one of her greatest challenges as she seeks the Republican nomination: The party's most faithful voters are not convinced she is one of them.

Part of the reason is that, unlike her primary opponents, Assemblyman Chuck DeVore of Irvine and former U.S. Rep. Tom Campbell, Fiorina is an unknown political quantity. She has never sought election to public office before now, so she doesn't have a paper trail of legislation, statements and votes... http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fiorina1-2010feb01,0,3925194.story

You do know she was diagnosed with breast cancer right? 

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2010, 04:11:48 PM »
Unreal, here a person who actually did something in the private sector, and you idiots are going to vote for Barbara Boxer? 

We deserve the hell we face with idiots voting for people like Barbara Boxer. 

Remember this gem from that disgusting ####? 


Reality check: Fiorina’s claim to fame is actually her weakest link; she does not “understand” business.  She ran HP into the ground and got fired.  Had she stayed much longer the company would have collapsed.  Mark Hurd cleaned up Fiorina’s mess and turned the company around.  Don’t take my word for it; talk to anyone who worked at HP during her tenure.  Look at the stock price during her tenure and the loss of market cap. :o

Carly is the classic case of someone “failing up.”  And now, after nearly 20 years of never voting nor being interested in public affairs, she wants to be Senator. ::)

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 04:27:13 PM »
"She has been a strong proponent, along with other technology executives, of the expansion of the H-1B visa program"

Wow, she supported giving away amaerican jobs to foreigners.  "They took our jobbbbbs"



"Forina was forced out of HP in 2005 after its stock price had fallen in value by half. In early January 2005, the Hewlett-Packard board of directors discussed with Fiorina a list of issues that the board had regarding the company's performance"

Hmm.

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 06:20:14 PM »
So again, why choose barbara boxer instead when that pig has done a far worse job for the taxpayer?

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2010, 07:05:03 PM »
isn't there a non-wrothless pig that could run?

Why is always two turds against each other?

Cali doesn't have a single candidate that isn't anti-gun sloth or anti-american worker?

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2010, 07:07:24 AM »
Reality check: Fiorina’s claim to fame is actually her weakest link; she does not “understand” business.  She ran HP into the ground and got fired.  Had she stayed much longer the company would have collapsed.  Mark Hurd cleaned up Fiorina’s mess and turned the company around.  Don’t take my word for it; talk to anyone who worked at HP during her tenure.  Look at the stock price during her tenure and the loss of market cap. :o

Carly is the classic case of someone “failing up.”  And now, after nearly 20 years of never voting nor being interested in public affairs, she wants to be Senator. ::)


Could you please run down the many great things Boxer has done in her senate career?

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Re: Fiorina's scant voting record could haunt her
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2010, 07:24:32 AM »
Could you please run down the many great things Boxer has done in her senate career?

Exactly, this is the exact reason we have the democrats in office that we do.  Fiorina at least knows the private sector, Boxer has a 100% FAILURE record yet they are willing to keep this worthless brooklyn bag bitch in office. 

I hate the average democrat voter more every day with their mentality.