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RFID
« on: June 03, 2009, 11:07:51 AM »
Okay so I've been reading a lot about rfid and the implantable rfids.  Does that scare anyone else?  Also, the Bible mentions something similar to this.  It says no man shall be able to buy stuff without the mark in their hand or head.  How is it possible the Bible, or the fairy tale book as most people on here refer to it as, could have been right about this?  Just makes you wonder.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 11:40:54 AM »
How is it possible the Bible, or the fairy tale book as most people on here refer to it as, could have been right about this?

Same way I can say that one eye color will be universal in all humans and in about... oh what, 2000 years or so??  And then my prediction might be perceived as "accurate" and "right".  Thus making me a prophet.  Even somewhat like the very slim possibility of RFID.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 12:38:51 PM »
Okay so I've been reading a lot about rfid and the implantable rfids.  Does that scare anyone else?  Also, the Bible mentions something similar to this.  It says no man shall be able to buy stuff without the mark in their hand or head.  How is it possible the Bible, or the fairy tale book as most people on here refer to it as, could have been right about this?  Just makes you wonder.

It should make you aware that the BIBLE is NOT a fairy tale book. Not only is the MARK OF THE BEAST spoken of but it also tells of america and the financial state it is in as well as the fact that it will be destroyed. You should read the BIBLE more...very accurate stuff in there.


Same way I can say that one eye color will be universal in all humans and in about... oh what, 2000 years or so??  And then my prediction might be perceived as "accurate" and "right".  Thus making me a prophet.  Even somewhat like the very slim possibility of RFID.

Well it has been more than 2000 years of humans on the planet and guess what..eye colors are still diverse. Now if you want to be really prophetic.... tell me what will become of america, Europe, Russia, Middle East, China and Africa in the very near future...and the events that will lead up to this "becoming"??
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Re: RFID
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 07:29:42 PM »
It has become obvious that the individuals responsible for guiding the destiny of this planet are directly following scripture from the Bible. What is puzzling is as obvious as this is, atheists are still in complete denial.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »
It has become obvious that the individuals responsible for guiding the destiny of this planet are directly following scripture from the Bible. What is puzzling is as obvious as this is, atheists are still in complete denial.

I guess we're all waiting for natural selection to wipe these people out  ;D

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Re: RFID
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 10:05:18 PM »
Okay so I've been reading a lot about rfid and the implantable rfids.  Does that scare anyone else?  Also, the Bible mentions something similar to this.  It says no man shall be able to buy stuff without the mark in their hand or head.  How is it possible the Bible, or the fairy tale book as most people on here refer to it as, could have been right about this?  Just makes you wonder.
nobody here gives a rats ass.  Well a few but they're the same ones who have been posting on it.  You won't get an OMG, this is fucked up out of anyone here.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 10:12:59 PM »
Rf id is a means for the authorities, government, "the Man"...whatever you want to call it, to track all your activities by following your purchases.  If there are no anonymous financial transactions, there can be no "underground".  All things will be known, you can't buy marijuana, steroids, firearms, anything on the quiet...anything considered "contraband".  They will try to do this by minting currency with Microscopic Rf id chips in the money that will have the serial numbers encoded.  They will know who has given you money because the banks will be required to make the information available to..."the Man".  Retailers, service providers will have the same requirements.  If the chips are in the consumer products, they will know what you buy, and who sold it to you, how much you paid.  If you go buy that ounce of marijuana one weekend, there will be an imbalance somewhere.  Plus if they intercept a drug trafficker's money, they will know who gave it to them, because of the encoded serial numbers.

Really, it can be looked upon as a twenty first century version of the stamp act of 1765 where Britain wanted to track financial transactions, legal documents, permits, commercial contracts, newspapers, wills, pamphlets, and playing cards in the American colonies.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 11:43:34 PM »
RFID is can be easily blocked or destroyed.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 12:00:28 AM »
RFID is can be easily blocked or destroyed.

Obviously it can be, but the concern is that without said implant, a person will not be able to conduct any transactions.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2009, 12:02:11 AM »
RFID is can be easily blocked or destroyed.
hahaha, and then what?  You didn't think about that did you?

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2009, 01:09:03 AM »
hahaha, and then what?  You didn't think about that did you?

Considering that the OP was worried about them being in him I simply specified that they can be easily become a nonissue.

You're "then what" applies to what? No where in this thread anyone mentioned a specific situation , only the general idea of putting a chip in you was mentioned.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 01:25:42 AM »
Considering that the OP was worried about them being in him I simply specified that they can be easily become a nonissue.

You're "then what" applies to what? No where in this thread anyone mentioned a specific situation , only the general idea of putting a chip in you was mentioned.
yes he did. ::)  Can't you read?

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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 01:49:43 AM »
yes he did. ::)  Can't you read?

Saying that he read somewhere about something and that the bible mentioned something about something is hardly a comment that is worth taking into account.

Not to mention that I got a BSPF running on most of the posters here so I don't take most of their words too seriously.

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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 06:10:04 AM »
Rf id is a means for the authorities, government, "the Man"...whatever you want to call it, to track all your activities by following your purchases.  If there are no anonymous financial transactions, there can be no "underground".  All things will be known, you can't buy marijuana, steroids, firearms, anything on the quiet...anything considered "contraband".  They will try to do this by minting currency with Microscopic Rf id chips in the money that will have the serial numbers encoded.  They will know who has given you money because the banks will be required to make the information available to..."the Man".  Retailers, service providers will have the same requirements.  If the chips are in the consumer products, they will know what you buy, and who sold it to you, how much you paid.  If you go buy that ounce of marijuana one weekend, there will be an imbalance somewhere.  Plus if they intercept a drug trafficker's money, they will know who gave it to them, because of the encoded serial numbers.

Really, it can be looked upon as a twenty first century version of the stamp act of 1765 where Britain wanted to track financial transactions, legal documents, permits, commercial contracts, newspapers, wills, pamphlets, and playing cards in the American colonies.

Unlikely - mostly because you could quite easily 'wipe' the RFID if you wanted. Plus the fact is a lot of transactions & gifts still occur between individuals where there is no logging to 'the man'.

The more likely scenario is we all get chipped with RFID and these replace money to a large extent or even we still have money but the chips inside us are read wherever we go.


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Re: RFID
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 07:52:52 AM »
You think the general populace of any country would actually accept being "chipped"? Seriously... the most apathetic countries on Earth wouldn't even fly with this shit.
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Re: RFID
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 08:32:42 AM »
You think the general populace of any country would actually accept being "chipped"? Seriously... the most apathetic countries on Earth wouldn't even fly with this shit.

I could see it happening.  They are trying to pass a law that creates a nationalized drivers license.  This license will have an rfid transmitter inside it.  Very small step to implants from there.

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 09:15:00 AM »
You think the general populace of any country would actually accept being "chipped"? Seriously... the most apathetic countries on Earth wouldn't even fly with this shit.

According to the bible, the mark (possibly being chipped) will be the only option for buying and selling. 


“And he (the Antichrist) causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, and he provides that no one should be able to buy or sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name."  (Revelation 13:16-17)


Some people contend believers that would have never accepted the chip will have been "raptured" previously to this time period and later others will be killed for refusing the chip.

"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands." (Rev. 20:4).

Plus they could make it appealing as an end to cash-related crimes and identity theft etc.  and our desire for convenience....for instance you could walk into a store and walk out w/your merchandise...no lines...sensors could determined who and what you should be charged.
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Re: RFID
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 09:39:42 AM »
You think the general populace of any country would actually accept being "chipped"? Seriously... the most apathetic countries on Earth wouldn't even fly with this shit.
hahaha, there's a time I would never have thought the British would have ever put up with a tenth of the big brother shit you guys have today, but here you are proving me completely wrong.

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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2009, 09:42:37 AM »
I could see it happening.  They are trying to pass a law that creates a nationalized drivers license.  This license will have an rfid transmitter inside it.  Very small step to implants from there.
forced implants don't even have to really happen do they?  I mean if everyone has to have their RFID transmitting ID to do anything, what's the difference?  And that shit is on the doorstep.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 09:45:59 AM »
It should make you aware that the BIBLE is NOT a fairy tale book. Not only is the MARK OF THE BEAST spoken of but it also tells of america and the financial state it is in as well as the fact that it will be destroyed. You should read the BIBLE more...very accurate stuff in there.


Well it has been more than 2000 years of humans on the planet and guess what..eye colors are still diverse. Now if you want to be really prophetic.... tell me what will become of america, Europe, Russia, Middle East, China and Africa in the very near future...and the events that will lead up to this "becoming"??

The Bible isn't a fairy tale book? Good one!!!!!!! You're quite the joker!








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Re: RFID
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2009, 07:08:31 PM »
The Bible isn't a fairy tale book? Good one!!!!!!! You're quite the joker!

Whether you think its a fairy tale or not is irrelavent. It's the script that's being followed. Why is that so hard to understand for athiests? I'd suggest you get reading.

Here is Aaron Russo commenting on the subject. He had no reason to lie about the subject...


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Re: RFID
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2009, 07:23:57 PM »
Rf id is a means for the authorities, government, "the Man"...whatever you want to call it, to track all your activities by following your purchases.  If there are no anonymous financial transactions, there can be no "underground".  All things will be known, you can't buy marijuana, steroids, firearms, anything on the quiet...anything considered "contraband".  They will try to do this by minting currency with Microscopic Rf id chips in the money that will have the serial numbers encoded.  They will know who has given you money because the banks will be required to make the information available to..."the Man".  Retailers, service providers will have the same requirements.  If the chips are in the consumer products, they will know what you buy, and who sold it to you, how much you paid.  If you go buy that ounce of marijuana one weekend, there will be an imbalance somewhere.  Plus if they intercept a drug trafficker's money, they will know who gave it to them, because of the encoded serial numbers.

Really, it can be looked upon as a twenty first century version of the stamp act of 1765 where Britain wanted to track financial transactions, legal documents, permits, commercial contracts, newspapers, wills, pamphlets, and playing cards in the American colonies.
people can barter if it gets that bad, people don't want paper or electronic numbers, they want goods and services.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2009, 02:54:26 AM »
hahaha, there's a time I would never have thought the British would have ever put up with a tenth of the big brother shit you guys have today, but here you are proving me completely wrong.

Same with the Yanks do isn't it? Wire tapping and all that...

There could be a movement... I've been thinking about this since getting a speeding ticket... that if every citizen showed their desire physically to remove the cameras the government wouldn't have power to stop the action, people being as apathetic as they are would never do it, but if it happened the big brother system could be taken down by the people OVER NIGHT.

What this has to do with speeding tickets is... that if everyone started going 100MPH on the highway/motorway the traffic cops would be POWERLESS to stop it and the government would have to concede...

A bit anarchist I know but honestly think we need some of that shit right now...
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Re: RFID
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2009, 03:17:50 AM »
Same with the Yanks do isn't it? Wire tapping and all that...

There could be a movement... I've been thinking about this since getting a speeding ticket... that if every citizen showed their desire physically to remove the cameras the government would have power to stop the action, people being as apathetic as they are would never do it, but if it happened the big brother system could be taken down by the people OVER NIGHT.

What this has to do with speeding tickets is... that if everyone started going 100MPH on the highway/motorway the traffic cops would be POWERLESS to stop it and the government would have to concede...

A bit anarchist I know but honestly think we need some of that shit right now...
yes, I'm shocked and disappointed with what we've allowed to happen too.  Still I can't count the number of shocking Big Brother news that's come out of England over recent years.  It seems like it starts over there and we follow shortly after.  And I'm mostly talking about the In Your Face Big Brother stuff.  Remember, most of the wire tapping stuff and all that was denied over and over and later was revealed as true.  With you guys over there, I've been shocked at what you've accepted knowingly.  I'm just saying, go back 25 years ago or so and tell people over there that the landscape of London today would look very Big Brother and many would probably say no way, they won't accept it.  Well here we are and they do.  Now with this RFID stuff, I'm sure if they came out tomorrow and said, hey, you all have to have this thing or you can't do anything, there would be huge opposition.  But introduce it gradually and get everyone use to the benefits of it for both business and consumer, toss in a major national crisis and years down the road, it becomes a different perspective entirely.


I think you're right, or I hope you're right that there could be a movement to reverse some of this nonsense.  But perhaps I'm just a dreamer

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Re: RFID
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2009, 03:25:28 AM »
I don't doubt it's in the realm of possibility; but honestly can't see it happening any time soon.
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