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« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2009, 01:49:14 AM »
Church Implants Microchips in Members’ Right Hands

CROCKETT’S BLUFF, AR – In a startling collision of modern technology and ministry, Crockett’s Bluff Community Church is the first known church in America to use Logitech’s biochip technology to receive its weekly tithes and offerings.

According to last year’s church theme - “Be ID’d With CBCC in ‘03″ - the congregation of 15,782 outfitted each member of its flock with a subdermal microchip in the right hand. The device, smaller than a mustard seed, contains the banking information of each worshipper and is scanned by an usher as he or she enters the sanctuary.

Pastor Bud Caldwell readily admits news of the action is sure to send end times specialists scrambling to rewrite their works of eschatological punditry. “Oh there’ll be a buzz for a while. Especially from the Van Impe’s. Forgive me for saying this, but it doesn’t take much for Rexella to get her prophetic panties in a bunch. If those two were halfway to heaven when credit cards came out, I can only imagine.”

cont... http://www.holyobserver.com/techno-tithe-church-implants-microchips-in-members-right-hands/

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« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2009, 01:53:58 AM »
"Be part of the In Crowd" ::)


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« Reply #52 on: June 29, 2009, 01:58:08 AM »
"Cincinnati video surveillance company CityWatcher.com now requires employees to use VeriChip human implantable microchips to enter a secure data center"

http://www.spychips.com/press-releases/us-employees-verichipped.html

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Re: RFID
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2009, 02:08:02 AM »
Andy Rooney promotes the mark of the beast...

"We need some system for permanently identifying safe people... a tattoo somewhere maybe... I wouldn't mind having something implanted permanently in my arm"


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« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2009, 02:30:25 AM »
Tommy Thompson taking the Verichip...


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« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2009, 02:41:30 AM »
IBM RFID TV Advertisment - Start Shopping As a Chipped Human Now








THIS SHIT IS COMMING ON FASTER THAN I IMAGINED.  commercials promoting it, politicians taking and promoting it, nightclubs in America and Europe, Police Officers having the implants, Companies requiring the implants.  People taking them already in the name of convenience.  It's here and it's going to get bigger and bigger.

I'll go back to Christians on this.  They're clearly the biggest most powerful group in America.  They put up one hell of a fight against Gays... Where is the outrage over the RFID/IBM/Verichip direction?  If they're not fighting this, what does that say?

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« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2009, 02:52:33 AM »
That IBM advert is fucking scary shit :o
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« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2009, 03:59:18 AM »
That IBM advert is fucking scary shit :o
It even looks gloomy/evil like they filmed it that way on purpose.  I thought it was a spoof at first but it's real.


Here is another one from IBM.  I just watched this for the first time today and did a doubletake thinking of the post I made in this thread: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=284217.msg4051279#msg4051279


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« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2009, 04:24:35 AM »
It even looks gloomy/evil like they filmed it that way on purpose.  I thought it was a spoof at first but it's real.


Here is another one from IBM.  I just watched this for the first time today and did a doubletake thinking of the post I made in this thread: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=284217.msg4051279#msg4051279



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Re: RFID
« Reply #59 on: June 29, 2009, 04:29:35 AM »
These adverts are just odd and disturbing.
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« Reply #60 on: June 29, 2009, 04:33:30 AM »
Hugo...everything's gonna be alright...
I don't give a flying fuck.  I find it all interesting, that's all.  I gave up any actual personal hope that the people would guard against any misuse of shit like this a long long time ago.  They deserve what comes of it.

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« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2009, 04:47:19 AM »
holy shit!  Check this shit out.  Why mythbusters and Discovery won't touch any serious RFID issues...



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Re: RFID
« Reply #62 on: June 29, 2009, 04:57:59 AM »
How to hack RFID-enabled Credit Cards for $8


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« Reply #63 on: June 29, 2009, 06:38:06 AM »
How to hack RFID-enabled Credit Cards for $8


So encase the chip in stainless before implantation?

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I'll go back to Christians on this.  They're clearly the biggest most powerful group in America.  They put up one hell of a fight against Gays... Where is the outrage over the RFID/IBM/Verichip direction?  If they're not fighting this, what does that say?


I don't give a flying fuck.  I find it all interesting, that's all.  I gave up any actual personal hope that the people would guard against any misuse of shit like this a long long time ago.  They deserve what comes of it.


Maybe Christians (that are aware of what this could be) are not that afraid of the technology until it becomes a requirement.  If it comes down to it, I won't be chipped.  People I know talk about this stuff and share about the dangers of it though.  It's up to each person whether they will believe it though.  Many people already think Christians are nuts....do you think the louder we would shout about this it would help?

Another  theory is that by the time this thing becomes a requirement to buy and sell Christians will be out of the way ("raptured") anyway so many voices in opposition to this stuff won't be there.


Here is a good article re: The Mark of the Beast that was written a few years ago which brings in the biblical perspective of things.


Beware: The Mark of the Beast!
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The purpose of this report is to warn people of the coming “mark,” and especially warn them of the eternal consequences for consenting to this mark on themselves.

“And he (the Antichrist) causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, and he provides that no one should be able to buy or sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for that number is that of a man, and the number is six hundred and sixty-six.” (Revelation 13:16-18)

These ancient words from Holy Scripture, revealed by God to the Apostle John, describe a condition of world political and economic tyranny during the prophesied Great Tribulation of the last days just before Christ’s return.  The world will be under the control of “the beast.”

The beast is the Antichrist, who will be a man, and appear as a man, but who will also be the incarnation of Satan, Satan in human form.  He will be a brilliant, charming, and charismatic leader, but also devious, cruel, and totally evil.

The above passage speaks of a “mark” which the Antichrist will try to place on every person as a means of identification and control. It will be used in commerce, and without it no one will be able to buy or sell anything, making it a perfect device to control the masses and demand their allegiance. To live, people must eat and have goods. Therefore, this required mark will be able to totally control people – that is, most people. There will be some who reject the mark, for a most critical reason explained later below.

Until recent years, such a “mark” was a great mystery.  No one had any idea what it meant or how it would work. But for centuries the faithful have believed it, simply because it was in God’s Word. But with modern technology, just in the past few years, it is now clear how it could work. In fact, “mark” technology is already available.

 The mark could possibly be an implantable biochip, sometimes called a microchip, a rice-size radio frequency chip implanted in the human body just under the skin, such as on the hand, just like the book of Revelation says! They are already available and in use!

 Biochips are being used in animals to identify pets and to track herds. It is expected that millions of animals will soon have this chip. Several companies are involved in this.  One such company says, “Our goal is to ‘chip’ every pet in the U.S.” Radio frequency emissions from an implanted chip are picked up and transferred to a computer database, which quickly identifies the animal.

 This is merely a prelude to a mandatory implantable biochip in every human. At first, the purpose will appear beneficial and actually good, such as for identification and medical history.  Some are already implanting biochips in children so they can be tracked in cases of abduction.

 The “smart card”, already in use, is a prelude to the biochip.  Europe is reportedly in the lead in identification technology. The smart card was invented by a Frenchman.  At this writing, about 150 million Europeans already have smart cards.  In the U.S., a card called the MARC (interesting name!) is being used with military personnel. The MARC has a bar code, a magnetic strip, embossed data, a digitized photograph, and an integrated circuit (IC) computer chip bonded to it.

 The universal health card planned under President Clinton’s defeated effort to socialize the U.S. medical industry would have been a beginning for universal smart card use.  Possibly no one could have received healthcare without this card. The process was probably only delayed.

An implanted biochip will be much more efficient than a smart card and will be permanently personal; not subject to loss and theft.

 It is not the purpose of this report to go into detail on smart card and biochip technology, uses and trends. Much has been written and is available to the public, such as in bookstores and libraries. On the Internet, just type those words into a search engine and numerous references will be given. The purpose of this report is to only briefly explain their reality, but more importantly, to issue a most serious warning:

Do not take the mark of the beast!

“And another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “if anyone worships and beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” (Revelation 14:9-11)

A most critical problem is revealed here.  It is not just a matter of receiving a mark for purposes of identification and commerce.  Receiving it will require one to “worship the [Antichrist] and his image” (verse 11). How can this be?

Obviously, this tyrant ruler, the Antichrist, will require people to deny the great Creator God and his Son Jesus Christ and declare his own deity before they will be given a “mark,” which they will need to buy food or anything else needed to live. If a person denies God and His merciful blood atonement through Christ, which is the only way one can escape eternal torment, they will cast away and forfeit all chance at salvation.  The pressure to do so will be immense. But if you are living on the earth at the time this happens and did not make the rapture or catching away of believers when it occurred, DO NOT TAKE THIS MARK NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, even if it means your physical death!

This will be a time of severe testing for you. If you refuse the mark, you may die a martyr, but you will live with Christ in paradise forever and ever. Taking the mark may buy you only a few days, or at best a few months or years of physical life on this earth.  It is not worth it!

As I write this, there is relative peace and tranquility in the world, with some exceptions.  But tensions are rising. The New World Order is emerging.  National sovereignties are being ignored in favor of the United Nations and NATO.  Jerusalem is becoming a source of international conflict, precisely as prophesized by the ancient Hebrew prophet Zachariah (12:3). It is an explosion waiting to happen. Horror weapons of mass destruction have been proliferated to rogue nations and terrorists, and many experts, including the U.S. Senate, predict they will soon be used.

It is believed that the Antichrist will soon arise out of international chaos, and that he will be a charismatic leader who will seem to have solutions to the world’s overwhelming economic, social, and political problems.  He will receive a fatal wound, but will recover (Revelation 13:3).  He will blaspheme God. Thinking him divine and wonderful, or just to be able to buy and sell, most of the inhabitants of the earth will worship him – except those whose names are written in the BOOK OF LIFE belonging to the Lamb (Jesus Christ).

And it was given to him (The antichrist) to make war with the saints and to overcome them; and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of THE LAMB who has been slain. If anyone has an ear, let him hear (Revelation 13:7-9).

The LAMB is the Lord JESUS CHRIST who was slain as a Lamb and shed His own blood to purchase our redemption, just as prophesied by the ancient Hebrew prophet, Isaiah, several hundred years before His birth (e.g. chapter 53).

The revelation of the Antichrist

The Lord Jesus Christ is coming, first to rapture or catch away His church, those who placed their trust in Him during the 2,000 year church age. He will then come in power at the end of the Great Tribulation, which He described: “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, no ever shall” (Matthew 24:21).

Guided by the Holy Spirit, the Apostle Paul wrote, concerning “the day of the Lord”:

Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (the day of the Lord) will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things: And you know what restrains him now so that in his time he may be revealed.  For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. And then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming: that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, so as to be saved.  And for this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they might believe what is false, in order that they may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth. And it was for this He called you through our gospel, that you may gain the glory or our Lord Jesus Christ. So then brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us (2 Thessalonians 3:15)

As Christ is coming, so is Antichrist during the Tribulation. Many people will be deceived by the Antichrist. Many people will die. But many, whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life, will be faithful until the end.

If you are reading this and you find yourself in this situation, just remember the words of the Lord and stand firm. If you have received Christ, you were written about thousands of years ago. God knows exactly who you are, by name. You are chosen. And as recorded in the Scriptures above, we “give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit, and faith in the truth.”

Just in case…

Just in case you have never “received” Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, I urge you to do so right now, at this very moment: “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name.” (John 1:12). We receive Him by faith: “FOR BY GRACE YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH FAITH; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD: NOT AS A RESULT OF WORKS, THAT NO ONE SHOULD BOAST” (Ephesians 2:8-9). We receive Him by invitation: “Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him” (Revelation 3:20).

Here is a suggested prayer to receive Christ: “Dear Lord Jesus. I need you. I believe you are the Son of God and that you died for my sins. I ask you to forgive my sins and come into my heart to be my Lord and Savior.  Help me to live for you, and if necessary die for you. By faith, I open the door of my heart and I receive you right now, and I thank you for what you have done and will do. In Jesus’ name. Amen”.

Talk to God (pray) frequently. Read His Word (the Bible). Fellowship with other believers. May God bless and sustain you, and give you courage and peace.

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Re: RFID
« Reply #64 on: June 29, 2009, 07:35:41 AM »
Stella, yes, if Christians were united against this technology it wouldn't stand a chance.  They're a lot more vocal over gays than they are the coming of the mark.  Plus a lot on the left are against this stuff of other reasons too so that really just leaves the corporations profiting and a few dimwits who think it's cool for it.  For what this represents to Christians, I'm baffled at the relative silence.  There was probably more outcry over prop 8 than putting guards in place against misuse of this technology.  I mean if they're going to accept the end coming and this just being part of it, why the hell worry about gays and all that?  Ok, they figure they won't take the chip if it comes to that?  Nobody was knocking on their doors forcing them into a gay marriage either :D

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« Reply #65 on: June 29, 2009, 08:37:55 AM »
Stella, yes, if Christians were united against this technology it wouldn't stand a chance.  They're a lot more vocal over gays than they are the coming of the mark.  Plus a lot on the left are against this stuff of other reasons too so that really just leaves the corporations profiting and a few dimwits who think it's cool for it.  For what this represents to Christians, I'm baffled at the relative silence.  There was probably more outcry over prop 8 than putting guards in place against misuse of this technology.  I mean if they're going to accept the end coming and this just being part of it, why the hell worry about gays and all that?  Ok, they figure they won't take the chip if it comes to that?  Nobody was knocking on their doors forcing them into a gay marriage either :D
I'm not one that gets overly excited about the gay thing so I really didn't follow Prop 8 and other gay stuff.

What do you think Christians should do to protest/put guards in place against this technology?
 
If a company makes it and sells it to people that want it and it's not illegal, how can people stop it from happening?   What are your suggestions?
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« Reply #66 on: June 29, 2009, 09:09:59 AM »
I'm not one that gets overly excited about the gay thing so I really didn't follow Prop 8 and other gay stuff.

What do you think Christians should do to protest/put guards in place against this technology?
 
If a company makes it and sells it to people that want it and it's not illegal, how can people stop it from happening?   What are your suggestions?
easy, make it illegal now.  Define what it can and more importantly can't be used for.  This isn't unusual when new technology is presented to us, especially when it's controversial.  Just like Stem Cells and all those embryo issues.  There was a pretty significant Christian opposition to that and in turn you have politicians playing to it and it was very limited.  What should be done now is to define where you can go with this and where you can't.  First thing on the list of don'ts is that no matter what this cannot be forced on ANY person by any means including orchestrated nessecity.  In other words it can't be "voluntary" and at the same time have the banks or other basic service/industry require it. 

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« Reply #67 on: June 29, 2009, 09:37:22 AM »
Hugo, the majority of the people who oppose same sex marriage in the US are not the same people who believe that there will be a "Mark of the Beast" or an "anti-Christ" or a "False Prophet."  Of those who oppose same sex marriage in the US, few believe these things. 

Many different religions oppose same sex marriage, as do many secular people who are socially conservative.

That is why you don't see the same group opposing this new technology.

I have heard that when Social Security numbers first came out in the US years ago, some Christians believed it was the mark of the beast, but it wasn't it.  Same thing when credit card numbers first came out, but it wasn't it.  Now it's this chip.

Many of those who believe that the world will be forced to take this mark of the beast also believe that they will not be around to see it because they will be "raptured" out of this world, so why oppose it now?

Others believe that they will be here to see it, but they believe that there is nothing that can stop it.  They believe that they will not take the mark and that they will have to hide.  If they believe that they will have to hide from the government, why would they publicly protest and freely expose themselves to the government as the opposition?

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« Reply #68 on: June 29, 2009, 10:31:12 AM »
Hugo...everything's gonna be alright...

No it's not!

The United States will still be here to ruin the world!

US BAD!!! BAD BAD BAD  AAAAAAGHGHGGH!!!!!!


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« Reply #69 on: June 29, 2009, 02:02:41 PM »
No it's not!

The United States will still be here to ruin the world!

US BAD!!! BAD BAD BAD  AAAAAAGHGHGGH!!!!!!


why would you blame the United States for evil shit?  Isn't it better to blame those responsible rather than the whole country.  The spirit of what's right is alive in many but it only takes a few among many to do wrong that effects us all.  Weed out the bad, don't blame the whole.  No need to be anti-American because something is wrong.

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« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2009, 05:17:13 PM »
why would you blame the United States for evil shit?  Isn't it better to blame those responsible rather than the whole country.  The spirit of what's right is alive in many but it only takes a few among many to do wrong that effects us all.  Weed out the bad, don't blame the whole.  No need to be anti-American because something is wrong.

Certian ones among us blame the US as a whole for all the worlds ills.

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« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2009, 04:50:41 AM »
Hugo, the majority of the people who oppose same sex marriage in the US are not the same people who believe that there will be a "Mark of the Beast" or an "anti-Christ" or a "False Prophet."  Of those who oppose same sex marriage in the US, few believe these things. 

Sorry, I don't believe that for a second.  I'm not saying non christians were not against gay marriage, I'm sure many were.  That's not the point.  The fact is the majority of the fight financially came from Christian groups.  I posted those stats in the thread on prop 8 a while back.  It's obviously very important to Christians...

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« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2009, 05:02:38 AM »
Sorry, I don't believe that for a second.  I'm not saying non christians were not against gay marriage, I'm sure many were.  That's not the point.  The fact is the majority of the fight financially came from Christian groups.  I posted those stats in the thread on prop 8 a while back.  It's obviously very important to Christians...

Mormons?  Evangelical Christians do not consider Mormons true Christians, and I do not know what Mormons believe about the Mark of the Beast.  So I would not expect them to oppose the chip for religious reasons.

Of all the Christians who oppose same sex marriage, many believe that the events described in the book of Daniel and in the book of Revelation already happened in the first and second centuries.  They don't believe that this chip will be the Mark of the Beast because they do not believe that there will ever be a Mark of the Beast.  So don't expect them to oppose this technology either.

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« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2009, 12:08:38 PM »
Sorry, I don't believe that for a second.  I'm not saying non christians were not against gay marriage, I'm sure many were.  That's not the point.  The fact is the majority of the fight financially came from Christian groups.  I posted those stats in the thread on prop 8 a while back.  It's obviously very important to Christians...

Also very important to the voters in Hawaii and Oregon, both overwhelmingly liberal states.  Also very important to all the Democrats in Congress who voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and the Democrat president who signed it into law.   

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« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2009, 12:27:32 PM »
Also very important to the voters in Hawaii and Oregon, both overwhelmingly liberal states.  Also very important to all the Democrats in Congress who voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and the Democrat president who signed it into law.   
still not my point, but ok.