The Pill Kills

[Straw Man]

http://www.thepillkills.com/

Attn. all GETBIG ProLifers - today was "The Pill Kills" day. 

how many of you you were out there exercising your big brains and protesting the use of birth control?

On Saturday, June 6, pro-lifers across the country will be participating in the largest protest ever against the birth control pill and other birth control products. Last year, participants across the United States shared the facts on exactly how the pill kills babies. This year, we will expose the sordid details surrounding the tragic effects these chemicals have on women. We will emphasize the truth about how the pill kills women.

Join American Life League and protest the pill. Help us unmask the truth and hopefully save lives. You can do this by having a presence outside of doctors’ offices, pharmacies, Planned Parenthood clinics and other family planning facilities, or even out on the sidewalk at a busy intersection. Wherever it is – help get the word out!


http://www.thepillkills.com/

[24KT]

http://www.thepillkills.com/

Attn. all GETBIG ProLifers - today was "The Pill Kills" day. 

how many of you you were out there exercising your big brains and protesting the use of birth control?

On Saturday, June 6, pro-lifers across the country will be participating in the largest protest ever against the birth control pill and other birth control products. Last year, participants across the United States shared the facts on exactly how the pill kills babies. This year, we will expose the sordid details surrounding the tragic effects these chemicals have on women. We will emphasize the truth about how the pill kills women.

Join American Life League and protest the pill. Help us unmask the truth and hopefully save lives. You can do this by having a presence outside of doctors’ offices, pharmacies, Planned Parenthood clinics and other family planning facilities, or even out on the sidewalk at a busy intersection. Wherever it is – help get the word out!


http://www.thepillkills.com/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/31054073#31054073

[Straw Man]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/31054073#31054073

good link - I posted it last week

doesn't really have anything to do with Evangelical nutjobs who are protesting the use of birth control

these people seem to get dumber by the day

how soon before they start murdering pharmacists?

[24KT]

good link - I posted it last week

doesn't really have anything to do with Evangelical nutjobs who are protesting the use of birth control

these people seem to get dumber by the day

how soon before they start murdering pharmacists?

It's just a matter of time before they start picketing pharmacies for carrying oral contraceptives, condoms etc.

The evangelical nutjobs will spread their tentacles wherever they can to radicalize their sheep. It's their MO.

[Stormspirit]

someone close to me believes the morning after pill is wrong, I asked him if an 11 year old girl gets raped by her uncle should she be allowed an abortion? he said 'it's an unfortunate circumstance but no'
I don't understand how anyone can justify fucking up a 11 year old girls life even more after getting raped by her uncle by forcing her to carry his baby to birth.  I think it's more important to spare her more pain and torment than to save some tiny fetus that isnt even remotely developed.  i don't understand that POV at all. with that said, i think abortion used as birth control is wrong and late term abortions a woman should have no right to choose unless her life is in danger.

[Straw Man]

someone close to me believes the morning after pill is wrong, I asked him if an 11 year old girl gets raped by her uncle should she be allowed an abortion? he said 'it's an unfortunate circumstance but no'
I don't understand how anyone can justify fucking up a 11 year old girls life even more after getting raped by her uncle by forcing her to carry his baby to birth.  I think it's more important to spare her more pain and torment than to save some tiny fetus that isnt even remotely developed.  i don't understand that POV at all. with that said, i think abortion used as birth control is wrong and late term abortions a woman should have no right to choose unless her life is in danger.

explain to him that the morning after pill is not an abortion pill, it merely prevents conception.
if he's got no problem with a condom then he should have no problem with the morning after pill.
of course, if he's like some of the pro-lifers on this board then facts will be useless.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/morning-after-pill/AN00592

[24KT]

someone close to me believes the morning after pill is wrong, I asked him if an 11 year old girl gets raped by her uncle should she be allowed an abortion? he said 'it's an unfortunate circumstance but no'
I don't understand how anyone can justify fucking up a 11 year old girls life even more after getting raped by her uncle by forcing her to carry his baby to birth.  I think it's more important to spare her more pain and torment than to save some tiny fetus that isnt even remotely developed.  i don't understand that POV at all. with that said, i think abortion used as birth control is wrong and late term abortions a woman should have no right to choose unless her life is in danger.

The particular pill in question these guys are rallying against is NOT even the morning after pill.
It's the traditional birth control pill designed to prevent conception in the first place.

[24KT]

explain to him that the morning after pill is not an abortion pill, it merely prevents conception.
if he's got no problem with a condom then he should have no problem with the morning after pill.
of course, if he's like some of the pro-lifers on this board then facts will be useless.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/morning-after-pill/AN00592

I wonder how soon it'll be before these nutjobs start protesting abstinence, since that too prevents conception

[LurkerNoMore]

Wonder how many of these protesters are religious nuts?

[Straw Man]

Wonder how many of these protesters are religious nuts?

Well this particular protest is sponsered by the American Life League which is a hard right Roman Catholic pro-life group.

According to Wiki:

ALL's mission is to end all forms of abortion without any exceptions for health, rape, incest, fetal abnormality, viability, or IVF.

Crusade for the Defense of Our Catholic Church [2] in which ALL seeks to persuade Catholics about its views on abortion, as well as expose pro-choice Catholic politicians who knowingly defy Church doctrine and statements by church officials, including Pope John Paul II, Mother Theresa, and Pope Benedict XVI. In 2004, ALL published a full-page advertisement in USA Today urging Catholic priests and bishops to deny Communion to Catholic legislators who support abortion rights.[1] The League's slogan in this matter is "You can't be Catholic and pro-abortion."

and:

ALL has also come under criticism for how it spends its donations. In the fiscal year ending in 2005, ALL spent one third of its income on fundraising and administrative expenses, including almost 9% or $699,857 paid out to its CEOs, more than any other charity in the "public benefit" category.[5] In the fiscal year ending in 2007, $127,707 (1.89%) was paid out to its president Judie Brown

[24KT]

Well this particular protest is sponsered by the American Life League which is a hard right Roman Catholic pro-life group.

According to Wiki:

ALL's mission is to end all forms of abortion without any exceptions for health, rape, incest, fetal abnormality, viability, or IVF.

Crusade for the Defense of Our Catholic Church [2] in which ALL seeks to persuade Catholics about its views on abortion, as well as expose pro-choice Catholic politicians who knowingly defy Church doctrine and statements by church officials, including Pope John Paul II, Mother Theresa, and Pope Benedict XVI. In 2004, ALL published a full-page advertisement in USA Today urging Catholic priests and bishops to deny Communion to Catholic legislators who support abortion rights.[1] The League's slogan in this matter is "You can't be Catholic and pro-abortion."

and:

ALL has also come under criticism for how it spends its donations. In the fiscal year ending in 2005, ALL spent one third of its income on fundraising and administrative expenses, including almost 9% or $699,857 paid out to its CEOs, more than any other charity in the "public benefit" category.[5] In the fiscal year ending in 2007, $127,707 (1.89%) was paid out to its president Judie Brown

They sound to me like a seditious terrorist organization attempting to infiltrate and undermine the US government and compromise it's principals of separation of church & state. Someone should look into their tax exempt status.

[loco]

good link - I posted it last week

doesn't really have anything to do with Evangelical nutjobs who are protesting the use of birth control

these people seem to get dumber by the day

how soon before they start murdering pharmacists?

Are Evangelicals and the American Life League group the same thing?  Do you know what an Evangelical is?

[Butterbean]

I'm not on this board much but don't remember seeing anyone against preventative birth control.   

[24KT]

Are Evangelicals and the American Life League group the same thing?  Do you know what an Evangelical is?

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/evangelical

Adjective
evangelical (comparative more evangelical, superlative most evangelical)

1. Pertaining to the gospel(s) of the Christian New Testament
2. Pertaining to the doctrines or teachings of the Christian gospel or Christianity in general.
3. Protestant; specifically, designating European churches which were originally Lutheran rather than Calvinist.
4. Pertaining to a movement in Protestant Christianity that stresses personal conversion and the authority of the Bible (evangelicalism).
5. Zealously enthusiastic.

[Straw Man]

Are Evangelicals and the American Life League group the same thing?  Do you know what an Evangelical is?

they don't appear to be the same thing but they seem to come together on certain issues

I think I know what an evangelical is

thinks they are a sinner
thinks jesus is god and came to earth to die for their sins
thinks they have a personal relationship with jesus

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after that it just gets nutty

[loco]

they don't appear to be the same thing but they seem to come together on certain issues

I think I know what an evangelical is

thinks they are a sinner
thinks jesus is god and came to earth to die for their sins
thinks they have a personal relationship with jesus

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after that it just gets nutty

They are not the same thing.  So please stop spewing ignorance and hate toward a group of people whom you seem to know nothing about.  Evangelicals as a group are not against birth control.  And Roman Catholics are not Evangelicals.

That goes for you to, Jag.  Stop your ignorance and hate.  Mormons and Jehovah's Witness are not Evangelicals either.

[Alex23]

good link - I posted it last week
doesn't really have anything to do with Evangelical nutjobs who are protesting the use of birth control
tese people seem to get dumber by the day
how soon before they start murdering pharmacists?

Hahahaha the black voodoo witch being exposed as a reposter...

[24KT]

They are not the same thing.  So please stop spewing ignorance and hate toward a group of people whom you seem to know nothing about.  Evangelicals as a group are not against birth control.  And Roman Catholics are not Evangelicals.

That goes for you to, Jag.  Stop your ignorance and hate.  Mormons and Jehovah's Witness are not Evangelicals either.

No Loco, you stop your ignorance. I use the word in it's adjective form, not as a proper noun.
If English was your first language, perhaps you'd know this. Anyone can be evangelical.

[loco]

No Loco, you stop your ignorance. I use the word in it's adjective form, not as a proper noun.
If English was your first language, perhaps you'd know this. Anyone can be evangelical.

Oh, I see.  So you and Straw Man think "anyone" is against birth control.   

[24KT]

Hahahaha the black voodoo witch being exposed as a reposter...

Voodoo witch?     Should I take it you no longer have a school boy crush on me?

PS: There's a reason you were stuck in TimeOut for so long {mwahahahaha}

[24KT]

Oh, I see.  So you and Straw Man think "anyone" is against birth control.   

No, I said anyone can be considered evangelical. I use the word as an adjective not a noun.
Seriously, get a better grasp of the english language if you're going to try to converse in it.

[loco]

No, I said anyone can be considered evangelical. I use the word as an adjective not a noun.
Seriously, get a better grasp of the english language if you're going to try to converse in it.

So tell us, Condi Rice, who can be considered evangelical?  Can you be considered evangelical, since anyone can be?

[Straw Man]

They are not the same thing.  So please stop spewing ignorance and hate toward a group of people whom you seem to know nothing about.  Evangelicals as a group are not against birth control.  And Roman Catholics are not Evangelicals.

That goes for you to, Jag.  Stop your ignorance and hate.  Mormons and Jehovah's Witness are not Evangelicals either.

when did I say Roman Catholics and Evangelicals were the same thing?

When did I ever mention Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses?

So you don't think some Evangelicals are against birth control?

Have you read any of the Abstinence Only Curricullum?  There are plenty of lies about birth control in that material and there are in fact Evangelicals who are opposed to birth control.  There are even some on this board.

BTW - I don't hate either group.   I do condemn some of  their actions but I have no problem with them as a group.  I think people should be free to believe do whatever they want as long as it doesn't impose on the freedom of others

[Straw Man]

Oh, I see.  So you and Straw Man think "anyone" is against birth control.   

how do you arrive at these conclusions.

It apparent that a certain segment of the pro-life movement is also against birth control

It's apparent that some of those people belong to various flavors of Jesus is God crowd (multiple forms of christians, catholics, etc..).

They mostly appear to be part of the more extreme christian and catholic groups.

I'm not saying you're one of those people but why all the nonsense trying to pretend they don't exist

[loco]

when did I say Roman Catholics and Evangelicals were the same thing?

Then why did you quote me and address my comment directly with this?

Really?  Evangelicals are not against birth control to my knowledge.  The Roman Catholic church is, and they are not Evangelicals.

http://www.thepillkills.com/

Attn. all GETBIG ProLifers - don't forget that today is "THE PILL KILLS" DAY 

On Saturday, June 6, pro-lifers across the country will be participating in the largest protest ever against the birth control pill and other birth control products. Last year, participants across the United States shared the facts on exactly how the pill kills babies. This year, we will expose the sordid details surrounding the tragic effects these chemicals have on women. We will emphasize the truth about how the pill kills women.

Join American Life League and protest the pill. Help us unmask the truth and hopefully save lives. You can do this by having a presence outside of doctors’ offices, pharmacies, Planned Parenthood clinics and other family planning facilities, or even out on the sidewalk at a busy intersection. Wherever it is – help get the word out!

http://www.thepillkills.com/

Well this particular protest is sponsered by the American Life League which is a hard right Roman Catholic pro-life group.

Explain the above.

When did I ever mention Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses?

I was addressing Jag about that.  She is the one confusing Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses with Evangelicals.  Perhaps she should stop answering for you when I ask you a question.

So you don't think some Evangelicals are against birth control?

Have you read any of the Abstinence Only Curricullum?  There are plenty of lies about birth control in that material and there are in fact Evangelicals who are opposed to birth control.  There are even some on this board.

BTW - I don't hate either group.   I do condemn some of  their actions but I have no problem with them as a group.  I think people should be free to believe do whatever they want as long as it doesn't impose on the freedom of others

I grew up in an Evangelical Christian home.  I have attended Evangelical churches all my life, in two different countries.  Not once have I heard an Evangelical oppose birth control.

But having been raised in a mostly Roman Catholic nation, I did hear opposition to birth control all the time from Catholics.