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An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« on: June 10, 2009, 03:58:35 PM »
Here is a different sort of topic.
This is a picture of the Kouros in the Getty Museum.  It’s a statue of a Greek man doing the “beach walk”.  They paid seven million dollars for it in the mid 1980’s.  There is a controversy surrounding it.  It is supposed to be from 500 B.C., but several art experts are suspicious that it’s a forgery carved in the late 1970’s early 1980’s and the patina achieved by a clever chemist.  So far no one has been able to definitively declare it genuine or fake.

The story is that one weekend a bodybuilder had come up from Venice and was browsing the museum, and Marion True, the curator saw him and being a sociable person approached him and asked him his opinion about the statue.
He replied, “No way this guy is from ancient Greece, I would say he had a prescription for dbol and used machines exclusively, no free weights.”  Marion asked him what he meant and after he explained to her what he said, she is supposed to have exclaimed, “We’ve been asking the wrong experts!”

So I put it to you; is it a genuine 500 B.C. statue, or a statue carved by a late twentieth century sculptor that has only seen modern bodybuilders/weight trainers?

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 04:05:08 PM »
Got Bigger legs an upper chest than Arvilla.

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 04:06:26 PM »
What a great post!  Seriously.  If you've read the book Blink, it opens with a very similar story.  A statue that a museum paid $10 million for, after having it throughly examined by a bunch of experts, turned out to be a fake.  They realized this only after others declared it a forgery after only looking at it for a few seconds.  The whole book is about how in the "blink" of an eye, we can often make better decisions than when we take our time to carefully research the topic.  It's a good read...


...oh, and my opinion on this one?  The nutsack is too big for him to be on D-bal....
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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 04:07:03 PM »
Got Bigger legs an upper chest than Arvilla.

Yeah, but Arvilla's delts CRUSH it ::)
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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 04:08:54 PM »
The small "package" is a dead giveaway that he was all gear.  >:(
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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 04:09:06 PM »
Yeah, but Arvilla's delts CRUSH it ::)

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 04:15:17 PM »
it's widely known that the ancient greeks exaggerated their sculptures...they were depictions of an ideal

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 05:13:24 PM »
If its really from 500 BC, i wonder what his diet was.
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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 05:23:45 PM »
Yes, bb'ing is an ancient past time and gods were depicted as muscular people.

Muscle = power
No doubt about it...

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 05:30:29 PM »


Muscle = power

That myth lasted for a long time.  Then came MMA where you have lanky pencil necks destroying muscle bound juice sponges...

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2009, 05:33:53 PM »
That myth lasted for a long time.  Then came MMA where you have lanky pencil necks destroying muscle bound juice sponges...



But from a visual point of view, they still are very powerful. Regardless of fighting prowess, the bigger physiques still convey a sense of power.

They ain't gonna make a statue of some 150lb guy and say "yeah he's small, but he can kick your arse"
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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2009, 06:06:57 PM »
Here is a different sort of topic.
This is a picture of the Kouros in the Getty Museum.  It’s a statue of a Greek man doing the “beach walk”.  They paid seven million dollars for it in the mid 1980’s.  There is a controversy surrounding it.  It is supposed to be from 500 B.C., but several art experts are suspicious that it’s a forgery carved in the late 1970’s early 1980’s and the patina achieved by a clever chemist.  So far no one has been able to definitively declare it genuine or fake.

The story is that one weekend a bodybuilder had come up from Venice and was browsing the museum, and Marion True, the curator saw him and being a sociable person approached him and asked him his opinion about the statue.
He replied, “No way this guy is from ancient Greece, I would say he had a prescription for dbol and used machines exclusively, no free weights.”  Marion asked him what he meant and after he explained to her what he said, she is supposed to have exclaimed, “We’ve been asking the wrong experts!”

So I put it to you; is it a genuine 500 B.C. statue, or a statue carved by a late twentieth century sculptor that has only seen modern bodybuilders/weight trainers?

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2009, 06:11:41 PM »
That myth lasted for a long time.  Then came MMA where you have lanky pencil necks destroying muscle bound juice sponges...


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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2009, 07:02:14 PM »
Not only UFC-esque fighting skills, a singing repertoire that could make Paul Potts jealous.
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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 08:29:35 PM »
it's widely known that the ancient greeks exaggerated their sculptures...they were depictions of an ideal



thank you.....someone with a brain, you would have to equally out of touch with reality to dignify anything that has been said by one of those 80's holdover frustrated bohemian bodybuilders that still hand around venice beach.....no doubt he was donnig the requisite Zubaz, Optimax shoes, bandana and fannypac.

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 02:18:21 AM »


Gayer than muscular greek statues.

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 02:51:37 AM »
Looks too primitive to have been carved as late as 500.  The Egyptian look, anatomical incorrectness, nondisplaced hips, etc, mean it would probably be a fair bit older.

Authentication would be pretty involved, I'd imagine.  Not sure what asking a bodybuilder would contribute to the process.  Good one tho.  8)

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 09:26:08 AM »


the Herakles statue is believed to be proof that Myostatin-related muscle hypertrophy occurred in the ancient world

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 12:09:48 PM »
Yeah, but Arvilla's delts CRUSH it ::)
and you just got off the phone from aquilla confirming he is NATURAL  ::)

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Re: An ancient Greek doing the "beach walk"
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 12:16:04 PM »


you gassed after only two minutes even while cranked out...not good.
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