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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2009, 01:08:13 PM »
We have steadily lost 600,000 jobs a month.

You are wrong.

We lost 600k+ in january.

According to the BLS, we have lost less jobs each month.

Now, is the BLS lying?


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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2009, 01:17:15 PM »
All this praying that Obama's economic policy would fail, and still we're appraoching 9000.

Because the dollar is down, oil is up, hence wall street does well.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2009, 01:22:10 PM »
Because the dollar is down, oil is up, hence wall street does well.

Back in Nov 2008, the dollar was down and oil was sky high - and the DOW was at 7400.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2009, 01:24:00 PM »

Hey lurker - serios question -  do you still have your Obama sticker on your car??? 

I can't stand people who place stickers on their cars.  That annoys the piss out of me.  And people with the "In Memory of" graphics need to be forcefully run off the road.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2009, 01:26:22 PM »
Back in Nov 2008, the dollar was down and oil was sky high - and the DOW was at 7400.

yep, so it's even worse. I wonder what people will say this November when DOW drops to 3000.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2009, 01:29:53 PM »
You are wrong.

We lost 600k+ in january.

According to the BLS, we have lost less jobs each month.

Now, is the BLS lying?



The U.S. has lost 2.2 million jobs since President Barack Obama took office. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the total number of jobs nationwide fell from 134.3 million at the end of January to 132.2 million at the end of May.

The unemployment rate now stands at 9.4 percent, up from 7.6 percent at the end of January.
 
“I think my initial measure of success is creating or saving 4 million jobs,” said President Obama on February 9.
 
Monthly job losses reported by the BLS are as follows:
 
Feb:     651,000
Mar:     663,000
Apr:     539,000
May:    345,000
Total: 2,198,000


Now,the last two months the losses have slowed.However,as the other poster posted,how many more jobs can be lost in the construction sector.There are only so mant people working.Again,the stimulous was supposed to create jobs,NOT slow job losses.It has  failed.It has not saved or created ONE job.Record deficits,inflation looming,deflation looming,a government take over and thus the wrecking of health care,he has failed and he will coninue to fail.He needs to go back to being a community destroyer like he was before,because as of now,he is a nation wrecker.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2009, 01:35:16 PM »
The U.S. has lost 2.2 million jobs since President Barack Obama took office. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the total number of jobs nationwide fell from 134.3 million at the end of January to 132.2 million at the end of May.

The unemployment rate now stands at 9.4 percent, up from 7.6 percent at the end of January.
 
“I think my initial measure of success is creating or saving 4 million jobs,” said President Obama on February 9.
 
Monthly job losses reported by the BLS are as follows:
 
Feb:     651,000
Mar:     663,000
Apr:     539,000
May:    345,000
Total: 2,198,000


Now,the last two months the losses have slowed.However,as the other poster posted,how many more jobs can be lost in the construction sector.There are only so mant people working.Again,the stimulous was supposed to create jobs,NOT slow job losses.It has  failed.It has not saved or created ONE job.Record deficits,inflation looming,deflation looming,a government take over and thus the wrecking of health care,he has failed and he will coninue to fail.He needs to go back to being a community destroyer like he was before,because as of now,he is a nation wrecker.


You said we have lost 600k jobs per month, steadily.

Then you showed data that since he's taken over, he's made improvements

Feb:     651,000
Mar:     663,000
Apr:     539,000
May:    345,000

Which is it billy? 

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2009, 01:40:40 PM »

You said we have lost 600k jobs per month, steadily.

Then you showed data that since he's taken over, he's made improvements

Feb:     651,000
Mar:     663,000
Apr:     539,000
May:    345,000

Which is it billy? 

SORRY,IT WAS 540,000 A MONTH.YEP,YOU GOT ME,THINGS ARE GREAT.THE STIMILOUS IS WORKING LIKE A CHARM.GREAT POINT.LETS SEE,ONE TRILLION DOLLARS TO "SAVE" 60,000 JOBS.Do the math,come back to me and tell me whatt that equals per job and then tell me how things are better.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2009, 01:43:55 PM »
SORRY,IT WAS 540,000 A MONTH.YEP,YOU GOT ME,THINGS ARE GREAT.THE STIMILOUS IS WORKING LIKE A CHARM.GREAT POINT.LETS SEE,ONE TRILLION DOLLARS TO "SAVE" 60,000 JOBS.Do the math,come back to me and tell me whatt that equals per job and then tell me how things are better.

Oh, so you're averaging now?

Then you've now proven that the avg amount of jobs lost ech month has gone down each month thanks to obama.

Thanks, rahm!

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2009, 01:47:59 PM »
Oh, so you're averaging now?

Then you've now proven that the avg amount of jobs lost ech month has gone down each month thanks to obama.

Thanks, rahm!

Well what the fuck did you think I meant when I said 600,000 a month.That was an average.AGAIN,try to follow.When the messiah took office,the unemployment rate was under 8%[he predicted that would be the high point if his stimulous passed].Its now approaching 10%.ANYONE with even the slightest bit of common sense COULD NEVER EVER say "things are getting better".Only a fool like Olberman would say something as assanine as that.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2009, 02:46:01 PM »
Olbermann is smarter than you, and he bases his conclusions on logic and good reasoning unlike right wingers.

haha its hilarious i can practically hear the pounding of the fists and the grinding of the teeth of all these right wing douches MELTING DOWN over mention of the name 'Obama'.

hahahahahahahahahaha how does it feel to know your side is drifting closer and closer to being totally obsolete every day?  ;D

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2009, 02:53:25 PM »
Olbermann is smarter than you, and he bases his conclusions on logic and good reasoning unlike right wingers.

haha its hilarious i can practically hear the pounding of the fists and the grinding of the teeth of all these right wing douches MELTING DOWN over mention of the name 'Obama'.

hahahahahahahahahaha how does it feel to know your side is drifting closer and closer to being totally obsolete every day?  ;D

You just discredited your entire existence with that statement.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2009, 03:05:28 PM »
Olbermann is smarter than you, and he bases his conclusions on logic and good reasoning unlike right wingers.

haha its hilarious i can practically hear the pounding of the fists and the grinding of the teeth of all these right wing douches MELTING DOWN over mention of the name 'Obama'.

hahahahahahahahahaha how does it feel to know your side is drifting closer and closer to being totally obsolete every day?  ;D

You use the man who hides under the desk as your support???

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2009, 03:25:56 PM »
Great news.  Of course no one will credit Obama for any of this.  Just like when the economy turns around it will be because "it was always going to happen" and have nothing to do with him being in charge.  That's just the way you guys work huh? Bash everything, retain nothing.  Almost Bruce Lee like, almost.
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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 03:56:33 PM »
Great news.  Of course no one will credit Obama for any of this.  Just like when the economy turns around it will be because "it was always going to happen" and have nothing to do with him being in charge.  That's just the way you guys work huh? Bash everything, retain nothing.  Almost Bruce Lee like, almost.

He really doesn't deserve credit for this. Only 5% stimulus money has been spent. Outside of that he really doesn't have an economic policy for us to say "Hey now, this shit is really working the way he said!"

Sorry.

And I don't mean to rail on you or anything but it leads back to what he promised with the stimulus, what he said the budget was going to hinge on etc. It really gets capped off with the original "the stimulus will create x amnt. jobs" which got, ever so subtley turned into "the stimulus will create or SAVE x amount of jobs" Now, there is no way to prove jobs saved or ,because the stimulus hasn't even really been spent yet, jobs created. Which is perfect for the admin. All of the economists on his team know that saying the stimulus will save jobs is a crock and if they weren't in politics at this point they would never be caught uttering those words.

It really is brilliant because all the admin. needs to say after another month of half a million job losses is say "Hey, it could have been 1 million jobs lost if not for my Stimulus Plan!". Even though there is not a shred of evidence, proof or statistics that can prove it.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2009, 08:08:12 AM »
The dow is up a bit...thats a good sign, but is only one indicator of what is going on.

With the insane amount of $ that was spent on the stimulus, TARP and other bailouts, we should be seeing dramatic recovery if these programs were worth while.  We have seen a little improvement in the dow but experienced greater unemployment than predicted by the Obama administration, worse national debts, appears like there will be less growth than predicted later this year, a devaluation of the currency with all the money that was printed and the gov has imposed its will on private industry.
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« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2009, 08:10:24 AM »
You have no idea what you are writing about. ZERO

The only thing that is a ZERO is your false messiah who has racked up more debt in 200 days than all previous presidents COMBINED!

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2009, 08:11:33 AM »
Ok Benny instead of cutting and pasting leftist bullshit, make ur own arguement. The dems in congress are backing away from this shit, the bailout money hasn't done anything, unemployment has gone beyond what ur messiah said it would..hmmmmm FAILURE.
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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2009, 10:05:45 AM »
You have no idea what you are writing about. ZERO

You have to do better than that.

Copying and pasting doesn't count.

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2009, 10:25:55 PM »

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The market isn't necessarily going "up" because of the fundamentals are improving. Lots of involvement with major institutions and the Fed with a boatload of printed money.

Unemployment still high and will probably go above 10%, oil/gas going up through $75 per barrel/3.00 a gallon.

Not to mention a doubling of interest rates on treasury bonds. And higher mortgage rates.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: DOW hits 8800
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2009, 08:14:54 AM »
You have to do better than that.

Copying and pasting doesn't count.
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