agreed.
you know why the people in this thread are so adamant that guy is natural?
because it gives them hope that one day their shitty genetics will allow them to look like that.
even on anabolics very few who post in this forum would achieve that level of muscualrity or conditioning.
Total bullshit. Not much different than me..'cept I'm currently at a higher bf% due to too much cheating on my diet, and his hamstrings are better. 100% natty as well.
I will say one thing about this though.
My old training partner and I started working out around the same age, same bodyweight and height.
I grew way more muscular than he did and gained approx 10-15% more strength than him. This was doing the exact same workouts together for around 3 years. After 3 years of lifting he barely looked like he worked out, yet I got accused of using gear often. I haven't seen him in years but I'm sure he doesn't work out any longer.
I can see how genetics definitely play a role in determining how much muscle one can put on and how easy/difficult it is for one to lose bodyfat.
Unless someone is willing to diligently put in at least 5 years of solid training naturally and proper dieting, they have no reference point with which to comment on this subject.