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Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« on: June 13, 2009, 07:47:31 AM »
Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
By Parisa Hafezi and Fredrik Dahl

TEHRAN (Reuters) – Hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won re-election by a thumping margin, official figures showed Saturday, but his moderate challenger rejected the tally as a "dangerous charade" that could lead to tyranny.

The scale of Ahmadinejad's victory -- he took nearly twice as many votes as former Prime Minister Mirhossein Mousavi with counting almost complete after Friday's poll -- upset widespread expectations that the race would at least go to a second round.

Interior Minister Sadeq Mahsouli said Ahmadinejad won 62.6 percent of the vote and Mousavi 33.75 percent. Turnout was a record 85 percent of eligible voters.

Mousavi protested against what he said were many obvious violations.

"I'm warning I will not surrender to this dangerous charade. The result of such performance by some officials will jeopardize the pillars of the Islamic Republic and will establish tyranny," Mousavi said in a statement made available to Reuters.

He had been due to hold a news conference, but police at the building turned journalists away, saying it was canceled.

Iranian and Western analysts abroad greeted the results with disbelief. They said Ahmadinejad's re-election would disappoint Western powers aiming to convince Iran to halt work they suspect is aimed at making bombs, and could further complicate efforts by U.S. President Barack Obama to reach out to Tehran.

"It doesn't augur well for an early and peaceful settlement of the nuclear dispute," said Mark Fitzpatrick at London's International Institute for Strategic Studies.

A bitterly fought campaign generated strong interest around the world and intense excitement inside Iran. It revealed deep divisions among establishment figures between those backing Ahmadinejad and those pushing for social and political change.

Ahmadinejad accused his rivals of undermining the Islamic Republic by advocating detente with the West. Mousavi said the president's "extremist" foreign policy had humiliated Iranians.

Friday night, before official results emerged, Mousavi had claimed to be the "definite winner." He said many people had been unable to vote and ballot papers were lacking.

He also accused authorities of blocking text messaging, with which his campaign tried to reach young, urban voters.

State election commission figures showed Ahmadinejad had secured a second four-year term with 61.6 percent of ballots against 32.5 percent for Mousavi with 39 million votes counted. It put the turnout at 80 percent of 46 million eligible voters.

Trita Parsi, president of the Washington-based National Iranian American Council, expressed disbelief at the wide margin in Ahmadinejad's favor. "It is difficult to feel comfortable that this occurred without any cheating," Parsi said.

Ali Ansari, who heads the Institute for Iranian Studies at St Andrews University in Scotland, said: "People will wake up today in Iran in shock, not that Ahmadinejad has won, but that he has won on such a dramatic scale."

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Western capitals had hoped a victory for Mousavi could help ease tensions with the West, which is concerned about Tehran's nuclear plans, and improve chances of engagement with Obama, who has talked of a new start if Tehran "unclenches its fist."

Now they must again deal with Ahmadinejad, who has refused talks with six world powers over Iran's nuclear program.

The three-week election campaign was marked by mudslinging, with Ahmadinejad accusing his rivals of corruption. They said he was lying about the economy. Inflation, officially put at 15 percent, and unemployment were core issues in the debate.

It was unclear how Mousavi's supporters, who thronged the streets of Tehran nightly during the campaign, might react to Ahmadinejad's victory. U.S. strategic intelligence group Stratfor called the situation "potentially explosive."

Scuffles broke out overnight between police and chanting Mousavi supporters in a Tehran square, a Reuters witness said. Police said they had boosted security across the capital. All gatherings have been banned until final results are declared.

Ahmadinejad draws his bedrock support from rural areas and poorer big city neighborhoods. Mousavi enjoys strong backing in wealthier urban centers, especially among women and the young.

Two other candidates attracted only tiny voter support.

Ahmadinejad, 52, won power four years ago, vowing to revive the values of the 1979 Islamic revolution. He has expanded the nuclear program, which Iran says is only for electricity generation, and stirred international outrage by denying the Holocaust and calling for Israel to be wiped off the map.

"If there was a shadow of hope for a change in Iran, the renewed choice of Ahmadinejad expresses more than anything the growing Iranian threat," Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said in a statement. "The international community must stop a nuclear Iran and Iranian terror immediately."

Ahmadinejad, who has cultivated relations with U.S. foes around the world, received telephoned congratulations from Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, the Fars news agency said.

Mousavi, 67, rejects Western demands that Iran halt uranium enrichment, but argued for a different approach to Iran-U.S. ties and nuclear talks -- although these are policy areas ultimately controlled by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The United States has had no ties with Iran, the world's fifth biggest oil exporter, since shortly after the 1979 Islamic revolution. Obama said his country had "tried to send a clear message that we think there is the possibility of change."
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 08:08:59 AM »
A shame, I was hoping there would be a change with the election.

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 08:10:17 AM »
You mean Dear Leaders' speech did not part the sea in Iran????

Wow, who would have guessed?

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2009, 08:12:53 AM »
A shame, I was hoping there would be a change with the election.


Apparently all the West's wishing and cheer leading couldn't make it so. Assuming it wasn't completely rigged, the people of Iran have spoken regarding the voice they want speaking on behalf of them to the rest of the world.  :-\
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2009, 08:41:59 AM »
fixing an election...

if bush can do it here in America...
surely..the 3rd world will soon catch on....

hey the pakistanis already learned from bush and now blame everything on Osama
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2009, 09:02:02 AM »
fixing an election...

if bush can do it here in America...
surely..the 3rd world will soon catch on....

hey the pakistanis already learned from bush and now blame everything on Osama

Please, give it up, Bush is gone. 

Deflecting from the daily mistakes and fumbles by ZERO by still attacking Bush is pathetic. 

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2009, 09:05:06 AM »
As if the outcome was ever in any doubt. He'll get another 4 years, probably double their unemployment rate from 30% to 60%, completely annihilate the last semblance of an economy for them, and then get voted out.

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2009, 09:52:58 AM »
either way this is a loss for Ahmadinejadamabababa, from what ive heard its pretty clear that the majority of the people dont want him in, he may have 'won' in a fixed result but the tide definitely seems to be turning away from the hardliners in iran, they do not have the support of the populace

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2009, 09:58:05 AM »
Riots after an election?  God bless America. 

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2009, 10:10:31 AM »
yeah, the incumbent has never lost int he history of iranian elections.  millions of iranians marching on the streets with an obama-like candidate, polls show everything neck and neck.

polls had to stay open way longer because of the long lines - and monster turnouts always favors the change candidate.

Ahmedijahad declared vistory when the state still called it neck and neck, yet he somehow knew...

state agency counts all ballots.  dude wins with exactly 2/3 of the vote.

Yeah, okay...

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2009, 10:11:43 AM »
You mean Dear Leaders' speech did not part the sea in Iran????

Wow, who would have guessed?

33, we could all use a good laugh.  Please go on record and tell us you believe the election was completely fairly held, with no fishy business. 

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2009, 10:12:32 AM »
There were millions of people marching in the streets of Tehran for Moussavi the other day. Ahmadinejad had to bus in people from the countryside to counter the rallies. Then he wins 2/3 of the vote. Shocker.

The outcome of that election was decided long ago.

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2009, 10:47:58 AM »
33, we could all use a good laugh.  Please go on record and tell us you believe the election was completely fairly held, with no fishy business. 

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2009, 12:25:24 PM »
Video of protests from Vanak Square, Tehran:



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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2009, 08:47:51 PM »
As if the outcome was ever in any doubt. He'll get another 4 years, probably double their unemployment rate from 30% to 60%, completely annihilate the last semblance of an economy for them, and then get voted out.

Are you talking about Obama winning a second term?

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2009, 09:43:55 PM »
Election battles turn into street fights in Iran
By ANNA JOHNSON and BRIAN MURPHY, Associated Press Writers

TEHRAN, Iran – Opponents of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad clashed with police in the heart of Iran's capital Saturday, pelting them with rocks and setting fires in the worst unrest in Tehran in a decade. They accused the hard-line president of using fraud to steal election victory from his reformist rival.

The brazen and angry confrontations — including stunning scenes of masked rioters tangling with black-clad police — pushed the self-styled reformist movement closer to a possible moment of truth: Whether to continue defying Iran's powerful security forces or, as they often have before, retreat into quiet dismay and frustration over losing more ground to the Islamic establishment.

But for at least one day, the tone and tactics were more combative than at any time since authorities put down student-led protests in 1999. Young men hurled stones and bottles at anti-riot units and mocked Ahmadinejad as an illegitimate leader. The reformists' new hero, Mir Hossein Mousavi, declared himself the true winner of Friday's presidential race and urged backers to resist a government based on "lies and dictatorship."

Authorities, too, pushed back with ominous measures apparently seeking to undercut liberal voices: jamming text messages, blocking pro-Mousavi Web sites and Facebook and cutting off mobile phones in Tehran.

The extent of possible casualties and detentions was not immediately clear. Police stormed the headquarters of Iran's largest reformist party, the Islamic Iran Participation Front, and arrested several top reformist leaders, said political activists close to the party.The activists spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Mousavi did not appear in public, but warned in a Web message: "People won't respect those who take power through fraud."

Many backers took this call to the streets. Thousands of protesters — mostly young men — roamed through Tehran looking for a fight with police and setting trash bins and tires ablaze. Pillars of black smoke rose among the mustard-colored apartment blocks and office buildings in central Tehran. In one side road, an empty bus was engulfed in flames.

Police fought back with clubs, including mobile squads on motorcycles swinging truncheons.

The scuffles began when protesters gathered hours outside the Interior Ministry around the time officials announced the final election results showing a nearly 2-to-1 landslide for Ahmadinejad. Demonstrators chanted "the government lied" and waved the ribbons of Mousavi's "green" movement — the signature color of his youth-driven campaign.

"I won't surrender to this manipulation," said a statement on Mousavi's Web site. "The outcome of what we've seen from the performance of officials ... is nothing but shaking the pillars of the Islamic Republic of Iran's sacred system and governance of lies and dictatorship."

Many sections of central Tehran appeared calmer after midnight, with no signs of open clashes. But the mood remained tense. Large groups of riot police patrolled the streets, moving along drivers who had been honking their horns in apparent protest.
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2009, 04:34:48 AM »
We had about 1,000 Iranian protestors at Mel Lastman Square in Toronto.

Mousavi supporters and Achmedinejad supporters all came out.

It was tense, ...but there was no violence and no arrests. Both sides stayed away from each other.
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2009, 04:43:27 AM »
We had about 1,000 Iranian protestors at Mel Lastman Square in Toronto.

Mousavi supporters and Achmedinejad supporters all came out.

It was tense, ...but there was no violence and no arrests. Both sides stayed away from each other.

Why dont those vermin go back to Iran if they are so concerned?

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2009, 04:49:12 AM »
Why dont those vermin go back to Iran if they are so concerned?

They weren't vermin. They were people.
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2009, 04:52:32 AM »
They weren't vermin. They were people.


Whatever. 

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2009, 01:00:31 PM »
Because they get more handouts in Canada   8)

I often wonder why people so passionate about their homeland move away...
Perhaps a more socialist system like Canada or England/other European countries promotes migration to that country.  The problem is migration without assimilation.

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2009, 03:36:28 PM »
Because they get more handouts in Canada   8)

Handouts?  ::) 

You obviously have no clue about Toronto's Persian population,
...they are some of the richest most affluent people around.

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I often wonder why people so passionate about their homeland move away...

Take a look at the vicious beatings the fundamentalist government is currently dishing out to Mousavi supporters and you'll  understand. Christians don't like Islamic fundamentalism thrust down their throats.

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Perhaps a more socialist system like Canada or England/other European countries promotes migration to that country.  The problem is migration without assimilation.

There is no problem of Persian assimilation in Canada. Maybe if Canada was more than just a country on the map to you, ...a country you clearly know very little about, ...you wouldn't make such a foolish assumption. silly man.  :P


As an aside, those election numbers seem somewhat askew to me especially when one looks at the demographics of Iran. 60% of her population is under the age of 30. For those results to be true, I can only assume that too many lies, told by too many people, about Achmedinejad, only served to galvanize the population behind him. Mousavi should have taken it easily.
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2009, 04:38:58 PM »
Why dont those vermin go back to Iran if they are so concerned?

Migrants can express their political opinions about their home nations...i think its called freedom of speech, not sure why you would deny them that.

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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2009, 03:55:57 AM »
I talked to an Iranian friend last night.

He told me he had little hope.

As for the election he said it was probably rigged.

He pointed to the fact that the result came within 24 hours, despite Iran having a fairly poor infrastructure.

In his estimate had the election been fair, the result would have taken at least 4-5 days or even a week.

He told me that while Mousavi perhaps may be a little less conservative than Ahmadinejad, he's still one of only 4 candidates that were accepted by the Guardian Council.

400 people applied.

Only 4 were accepted - and all 4 are pro sharia law.

So it's really a choice between AIDS and cancer.


AIDS, you can't beat.

Cancer, you have a slim chance.
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Re: Ahmadinejad wins Iran election, Mousavi cries foul
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2009, 04:01:48 AM »
I talked to an Iranian friend last night.

He told me he had little hope.

As for the election he said it was probably rigged.

He pointed to the fact that the result came within 24 hours, despite Iran having a fairly poor infrastructure.

In his estimate had the election been fair, the result would have taken at least 4-5 days or even a week.

He told me that while Mousavi perhaps may be a little less conservative than Ahmadinejad, he's still one of only 4 candidates that were accepted by the Guardian Council.

400 people applied.

Only 4 were accepted - and all 4 are pro sharia law.

So it's really a choice between AIDS and cancer.


AIDS, you can't beat.

Cancer, you have a slim chance.

It'd be really cool if you said that all in Swedish.
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