Author Topic: Dorian Vs Jay ( Ronnie says Dorian is better ) (Read 35220 times)

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #100 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:45:33 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 16, 2009, 06:37:10 PM

Flowerboy is melting down!

so is Royal Pain!

they type all the words, yet none are backed up by real life!

eg.

total bullshit. Ronnie 99 is 257 pounds (same size), way more ripped, striated, just as dry and no major proportion issues at all (even his calves don't look undersized, unlike dorian's twig arms!):

all your bullshit cannot overcome real life:

note the perfect proportions of Ronnie's 99 form: no balance issues what so ever.

unlike mr twigs on a barrel, who would just barely beat Jay, getting owned fromt the front, but winning from the back.

it would be nasser vs dorian all over again.

meltdown , Hulkster in yet another Yates thread trying to prove Ronnie wrong lmfao

he never recovered

Royal Lion · « **Reply #101 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:50:20 PM »

Lol...."real life" would be seeing them in person and nearly everyone who ever saw Dorian in person has said he was on another level and totally dominant. I saw Ronnie in real life and in 02 he did not dominate, but in 03-05 he sure did. You think that posting the worst pics of Dorian is real life?

Those are great shots of Ronnie you posted. Dorian is right there though.

Royal Lion · « **Reply #102 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:52:07 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on June 16, 2009, 06:45:33 PM

meltdown , Hulkster in yet another Yates thread trying to prove Ronnie wrong lmfao

he never recovered

Lol - ND leaves the Truce thread only to be followed into every thread he posts in. Come on, Hulkster, you even followed ND into the thread he started on aestetics and started bashing Yates. Give it up already!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #103 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:55:10 PM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on June 16, 2009, 06:50:20 PM

Lol...."real life" would be seeing them in person and nearly everyone who ever saw Dorian in person has said he was on another level and totally dominant. I saw Ronnie in real life and in 02 he did not dominate, but in 03-05 he sure did. You think that posting the worst pics of Dorian is real life?

Those are great shots of Ronnie you posted. Dorian is right there though.

Ronnie has seen Dorian many times live and in person and there is a very good reason he said he couldn't beat Dorian

Hulkster is deathly afraid of great pics of Yates for a reason and 1999 lol admittedly Ronnie said on multiple occasions his best Olympia was his best because he was better conditioned lol

Hulkster owned by Ronnie once again

delta9mda · « **Reply #104 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:55:18 PM »

wtf?! ronnie barely beat wheeler and Yates manhandled a peak wheeler at the 93 Olympia. can you see where this is going?

Royal Lion · « **Reply #105 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:58:11 PM »

Quote from: delta9mda on June 16, 2009, 06:55:18 PM

wtf?! ronnie barely beat wheeler and Yates manhandled a peak wheeler at the 93 Olympia. can you see where this is going?

Exactly - Ronnie won in 98 because Wheeler was off and didn't look conditioned from the back. 93 Wheeler was in peak condition, but was dominated by Yates.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #106 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:59:03 PM »

Quote from: delta9mda on June 16, 2009, 06:55:18 PM

wtf?! ronnie barely beat wheeler and Yates manhandled a peak wheeler at the 93 Olympia. can you see where this is going?

He hates when you point that out lol Ronnie at his admitted best Olympia showing of ALL of his 8 said 1998 was his best , he just barely by the skin of his teeth beat Flex who was no where near what he was in 1993 when Dorian destroyed him , Ronnie peak Ronnie that is , his best Olympia 1998 Ronnie would be left for dead by Dorian 1993 Olympia nevermind Dorian 1993 pre-contest at 269 pounds

Hulkster hates Ronnie for admitting Dorian is superior lol

Hulkster · « **Reply #107 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:04:13 PM »

Quote from: delta9mda on June 16, 2009, 06:55:18 PM

wtf?! ronnie barely beat wheeler and Yates manhandled a peak wheeler at the 93 Olympia. can you see where this is going?

lol how stupid.

Ronnie 98 barely beat Wheeler only because the judges overlooked him in the early rounds -and Flex gained a lot of points on name value alone..

look what happened in 99 when the judges didnt give a shit about Flex and his momentum going in.

he got crushed by ronnie even worse than dorian crushed him..

use your head before you post next time.

Hulkster · « **Reply #108 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:06:48 PM »

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93 Wheeler was in peak condition, but was dominated by Yates.

man you guys are really stupid this evening.

flex 93 olympia was WAY OFF his peak condition, that he achieved at the AC that year.

had flex showed up like he looked at the AC, dorian may have lost the olympia that year.

dorian was always lucky: Flex and Kevin (and Vince Taylor in 92) never seemed to pull it all together for the Olympias. they always peaked at the ACs.

this saved dorian's ass more than once.

Hulkster · « **Reply #109 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:10:01 PM »

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he just barely by the skin of his teeth beat Flex

yeah, look how close it was:

too much flower perfume can really fuck up the mind, can't it?

you need to look at more than just the numbers on the score sheet to see how close a contest was:

see: Flex gets crushed. even if the numbers lead one to believe it was close.

it wasnt:

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #110 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:10:11 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 16, 2009, 07:04:13 PM

lol how stupid.

Ronnie 98 barely beat Wheeler only because the judges overlooked him in the early rounds -and Flex gained a lot of points on name value alone..

look what happened in 99 when the judges didnt give a shit about Flex and his momentum going in.

he got crushed by ronnie even worse than dorian crushed him..

use your head before you post next time.

ha ha ha ha excuses , excuses , Ronnie was LUCKY to beat Flex

lmfao how could Flex get crushed more in 99 than he did in 1993 you idiot? he was near his peak in 1993 AND Dorian was so far ahead of everyone including a near peak Flex he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round

that's ownage kid

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #111 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:12:49 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 16, 2009, 07:10:01 PM

yeah, look how close it was:

too much flower perfume can really fuck up the mind, can't it?

you need to look at more than just the numbers on the score sheet to see how close a contest was:

see: Flex gets crushed. even if the numbers lead one to believe it was close.

it wasnt:

ha ha ha it was the closest Mr Olympia contest in the HISTORY of the contest

Flex was NO WHERE NEAR 1993 and he almost won , watch the video kid I have it , if Flex had ripped hams and glutes 1998 Ronnie would have lost

Hulkster · « **Reply #112 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:13:39 PM »

sorry Flowerboy, but if you can't see that Ronnie is crushing Flex in 98, you truly have no knowledge of the sport:

oh wait, your only knowledge lies in flower arrangments hahaha

Hulkster · « **Reply #113 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:15:07 PM »

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AND Dorian was so far ahead of everyone including a near peak Flex he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round

that's ownage kid

no, thats the most blatant act of biased judging in bodybuilding history.

by definition.

you cant get around that.

Hulkster · « **Reply #114 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:15:59 PM »

hey flowerboy, I love how you keep ignoring the side chest shot I keep showing you, and still insisting that the contest was 'close'

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #115 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:16:05 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 16, 2009, 07:13:39 PM

sorry Flowerboy, but if you can't see that Ronnie is crushing Flex in 98, you truly have no knowledge of the sport:

oh wait, your only knowledge lies in flower arrangments hahaha

You're always trying to rewrite bodybuilding history , you think posting a single comparison means anything? I have the contest did you ever watch the whole thing besides looking at pics? lol you internet-fan-boy lmao

I own you like Dorian owned Flex and Ronnie

Royal Lion · « **Reply #116 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:16:35 PM »

Here are some good shots of the 93 Mr. O. Flex was peeled and at his all time best and Dorian still dominated.

Hulkster · « **Reply #117 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:17:45 PM »

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You're always trying to rewrite bodybuilding history

you're always trying to reduce the contests to some numbers on a page, without looking to see if those numbers actually correspond to what is actually seen onstage.

they don't alot of the time.

and 98 is a prime example of this..

Hulkster · « **Reply #118 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:19:36 PM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on June 16, 2009, 07:16:35 PM

Here are some good shots of the 93 Mr. O. Flex was peeled and at his all time best and Dorian still dominated.

you obviously have never seen the 93 Flex AC shots with ripped glutes and hams..

not to mention a more ripped upper body and back..

ND loves to say Flex was peak in 93 at the olympia only because it makes his hero look better.

problem was, he was noticably off his Arnold Classic Form.

this is common knowledge, and even commented on in the Flex magagazine review of the contest..

Royal Lion · « **Reply #119 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:20:02 PM »

Face it, when it came to dense size no one could match Dorian.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #120 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:21:21 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 16, 2009, 07:17:45 PM

you're always trying to reduce the contests to some numbers on a page, without looking to see if those numbers actually correspond to what is actually seen onstage.

they don't alot of the time.

and 98 is a prime example of this..

I have the contest do you? answer the question ? I've seen the contest very close but Ronnie is the deserving winner

YOU are always trying to rewrite bodybuilding history and are ALWAYS in direct opposition with the judges , that means as usual YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT old news

quote Flex magazine Jan 1999 Team Flex

When Ronnie is 100% , Flex has to be 100% to prevail. On October 10 , 1998 , Flex wasn't and Ronnie was.

team Flex admitting if Flex was on he's kick Ronnie's ass ha ha ha ha cling to what they say now fan-boy

Royal Lion · « **Reply #121 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:22:45 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 16, 2009, 07:19:36 PM

you obviously have never seen the 93 Flex AC shots with ripped glutes and hams..

not to mention a more ripped upper body and back..

ND loves to say Flex was peak in 93 at the olympia only because it makes his hero look better.

problem was, he was noticably off his Arnold Classic Form.

this is common knowledge, and even commented on in the Flex magagazine review of the contest..

A 93 Mr. Flex was much better than a 98 Flex; Yates dominated in 93; Ronnie barely won in 98.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #122 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:25:49 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on June 16, 2009, 07:19:36 PM

you obviously have never seen the 93 Flex AC shots with ripped glutes and hams..

not to mention a more ripped upper body and back..

ND loves to say Flex was peak in 93 at the olympia only because it makes his hero look better.

problem was, he was noticably off his Arnold Classic Form.

this is common knowledge, and even commented on in the Flex magagazine review of the contest..

1993 Flex was prime NO oil like when Ronnie beat him

Dorian didn't beat Flex 93 ASC but he was pretty damn close , a fuck of a lot better than Mr Oil 1998

Oh and these people were there both years

Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.

Hulkster = owned

Royal Lion · « **Reply #123 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:26:11 PM »

BOOM!

Royal Lion · « **Reply #124 on:** June 16, 2009, 07:34:06 PM »

No version of Flex Wheeler would have come close to Dorian in 93.