Author Topic: Dorian Vs Jay ( Ronnie says Dorian is better )  (Read 35250 times)

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #125 on: June 16, 2009, 07:36:28 PM »
why do you morons keep saying that ronnie 'barely won' in 98?

is it because the scores show them to be close? (even though the scores should have been like 99 - a massacre of flex by ronnie)

or because reality shows flex getting crushed:?

explain. ::)
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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #126 on: June 16, 2009, 07:38:12 PM »
No version of Flex Wheeler would have come close to Dorian in 93.

And no version of Ronnie could either no in density & dryness not in balance & proportion and not in posing & presentation

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #127 on: June 16, 2009, 07:41:34 PM »
why do you morons keep saying that ronnie 'barely won' in 98?

is it because the scores show them to be close? (even though the scores should have been like 99 - a massacre of flex by ronnie)

or because reality shows flex getting crushed:?

explain. ::)

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[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again.

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #128 on: June 16, 2009, 07:43:56 PM »
why do you morons keep saying that ronnie 'barely won' in 98?

is it because the scores show them to be close? (even though the scores should have been like 99 - a massacre of flex by ronnie)

or because reality shows flex getting crushed:?

explain. ::)
All you have posted is the same side chest shot and Flex isn't hitting the pose correctly.  The fdb shot you posted could go either way.

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #129 on: June 16, 2009, 07:44:45 PM »
All you have posted is the same side chest shot and Flex isn't hitting the pose correctly.  The fdb shot you posted could go either way.

NO bitch tits on Flex in the front double biceps pose  :-X

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #130 on: June 16, 2009, 07:48:46 PM »
Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again.


please tell me you don't agree with those ridiculous statements.

have you seen how badly Flex got crushed in 99? its 1000x worse than he got crushed in 1998, which was bad enough..

secondly, you have that one quote, I can dig up tons of quotes saying the EXACT OPPOSITE.

after all these years, flowerboy, you still haven't learned anything..

so sad.. :-\
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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #131 on: June 16, 2009, 07:49:45 PM »
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The fdb shot you posted could go either way.

 but only if your Flowerboy's bitch who wants to make ronnie seem worse so dorian will look better.. :-X
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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #132 on: June 16, 2009, 07:51:32 PM »
please tell me you don't agree with those ridiculous statements.

have you seen how badly Flex got crushed in 99? its 1000x worse than he got crushed in 1998, which was bad enough..

secondly, you have that one quote, I can dig up tons of quotes saying the EXACT OPPOSITE.

after all these years, flowerboy, you still haven't learned anything..

so sad.. :-\

I agree with 1998 and FYI he was there in 1999 so his opinion kicks the shit out of yours  ;) and Ronnie 99 said he couldn't touch Yates ha ha ha ha owned  ;)

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #133 on: June 16, 2009, 07:52:33 PM »
but only if your Flowerboy's bitch who wants to make ronnie seem worse so dorian will look better.. :-X

No the BITCH TITS makes Ronnie look worse in that pose idiot  ;)  Flex had an awesome front double biceps in 1998 clearly better

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #134 on: June 16, 2009, 07:53:27 PM »
And no version of Ronnie could either no in density & dryness not in balance & proportion and not in posing & presentation

as always, reality is Flowerboy's worst enemy: ::)
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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #135 on: June 16, 2009, 07:54:54 PM »
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ouch. look how shitty dorian's glutes/ham/arms are in comparison, not to mention the paper thin lack of thickness in comparison. its not even close.

ronnie is 10 pounds lighter yet his back is way thicker.

oh yeah, I forgot, most of dorian's extra weight is in the keg midsection.. :-\

ronnie's back is superior. just like the Flex poll says..
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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #136 on: June 16, 2009, 07:56:37 PM »
I agree with 1998 and FYI he was there in 1999 so his opinion kicks the shit out of yours  ;) and Ronnie 99 said he couldn't touch Yates ha ha ha ha owned  ;)

what about the opinion of so many other people who where there?

it takes about 2 seconds to find tons of quotes talking about how 99 ronnie crushed all competiton that year, and how in 98 he won convincingly, despite what the numbers might lead one to believe without looking at media from the contest?

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #137 on: June 16, 2009, 07:58:29 PM »
as always, reality is Flowerboy's worst enemy: ::)

I would be willing to concede that Ronnie in this particular contest perhaps matches Yates in terms of density & dryness albeit 10 pounds lighter , but sorry Hulkster balance & proportion ALL Dorian same with posing and presentation not so much in this pose because this is one pose Ronnie can hit correctly even though he arches slightly back , muscular bulk Yates again

Dorian is clearly winning this comparison using the criteria , sorry Kid , Ronnie is getting beat

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #138 on: June 16, 2009, 08:02:09 PM »
what about the opinion of so many other people who where there?

it takes about 2 seconds to find tons of quotes talking about how 99 ronnie crushed all competiton that year, and how in 98 he won convincingly, despite what the numbers might lead one to believe without looking at media from the contest?

 ::)

I agree he was the clear winner in 1999 but your opinion means shit because it's biased and flat out wrong as usual , you're the same moron who thinks he's just as conditioned at 01 but 10 pounds heavier and NO ONE considers this his best showing lol

I have BOTH contests on video do you?  ;)

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #139 on: June 16, 2009, 08:07:47 PM »
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ouch. look how shitty dorian's glutes/ham/arms are in comparison, not to mention the paper thin lack of thickness in comparison. its not even close.

ronnie is 10 pounds lighter yet his back is way thicker.

oh yeah, I forgot, most of dorian's extra weight is in the keg midsection.. :-\

ronnie's back is superior. just like the Flex poll says..

ha ha ha ignorance meltdown Dorian's glutes are ripped just because YOU are fond or Ronnies doesn't mean they're better remember proportion? are Dorian's sticking out ? NO in proportion with the rest of his physique and you don't have the first clue on what great hamstrings are , do yourself a favor and go to amazon.com and buy a Grey's anatomy book and learn what the muscles of the leb biceps are and then come back and apologize for your stupidity , Dorian's leg biceps are clearly thicker and more defined to boot and separated

Arms? ONLY advantage Ronnie has is biceps , wrong again kid m back? Dorian hands down , wider , lower inserting lats , thicker and more defined and separated

Dorian's back just like Mr Olympia Ronnie Coleman and Samier Bannout say is much better  ;)


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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #140 on: June 16, 2009, 08:08:24 PM »
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ouch. look how shitty dorian's glutes/ham/arms are in comparison, not to mention the paper thin lack of thickness in comparison. its not even close.

ronnie is 10 pounds lighter yet his back is way thicker.

oh yeah, I forgot, most of dorian's extra weight is in the keg midsection.. :-\

ronnie's back is superior. just like the Flex poll says..
Keg midsection?   Right...

And, since you like striated glutes so much...

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #141 on: June 16, 2009, 08:09:36 PM »
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you're the same moron who thinks he's just as conditioned at 01 but 10 pounds heavier and NO ONE considers this his best showing lol

wrong. lots and lots of people do. look around whenever 99 videos or pics are posted. most people say the same thing: 99 was his best look.

the problem is, McGough doesn't and thats the only opinion you chose to believe.. ::)



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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #142 on: June 16, 2009, 08:09:59 PM »
Dorian is fucking INSANE in this shot  :o Head to toe, Coleman cannot compare, as good as he was. Dorian was just that much better.

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #143 on: June 16, 2009, 08:10:23 PM »
Density - Muscle hardness, which is also related to muscu-lar definition. A bodybuilder can be well-defined and still have excess fat within each major muscle complex. But when he has muscle density, even this intramuscular fat has been eliminated. A combination of muscle mass and muscle density is highly prized among all competitive bodybuilders.

Muscle Mass and Muscle Density is highly prized among ALL competitive bodybuilders

Dorian kills Ronnie because he's bigger , harder and dryer and better balance , oh and he's a better poser

exactly why Ronnie admitted defeat to him  ;)

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #144 on: June 16, 2009, 08:11:24 PM »
To look at this shot and say Flex should have won, as you did Hulkster, just goes to show how clueless you are



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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #145 on: June 16, 2009, 08:15:36 PM »
wrong. lots and lots of people do. look around whenever 99 videos or pics are posted. most people say the same thing: 99 was his best look.

the problem is, McGough doesn't and thats the only opinion you chose to believe.. ::)





LMFAO all nutt-huggers think 99 is his best , all nutt-huggers are like you , ignorant

Ronnie says 1998 was his best Olympia his opinion kicks your ass , McGough says 01 ASC his opinion kicks your ass , Perine as 98 or 01 ASC his opinion kicks your ass

we've already established you don't know the first thing about competitive bodybuilding , remember Ronnie has more detailed calves than Dorian? and Flex won in 1993 lol

I know Ronnie is better conditioned in 1998 compared to 1999 I do think he looks better fuller but I know it comes at the expense of density it's a trade off he can get away with that when guys like a past-prime Flex and a soft Cormier , Yates sorry he would make Ronnie look off

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #146 on: June 16, 2009, 08:15:43 PM »
Dorian 93 was the greatest bodybuilder to ever grace a stage. That physique would have won every single Mr. Olympia from 1965 to 2008
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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #147 on: June 16, 2009, 08:18:10 PM »
To look at this shot and say Flex should have won, as you did Hulkster, just goes to show how clueless you are





You can see the difference in balance & proportion it's night & day , Flex has a short torso ( much like Ronnie ) long legs and arms in relation to the torso ( guess like who ) small calves for their quads ( hello Ronnie ) Dorian's balance is eons better than both , couple that with unequaled density and size as well as posing and lights out Ronnie and Flex  ;)

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #148 on: June 16, 2009, 08:28:02 PM »
But Hulkster thinks Dorian's back was paper thin.  If that doesn't shed some light on his stupidity, I don't know what will.

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Re: Dorian Vs Jay
« Reply #149 on: June 16, 2009, 09:15:29 PM »
The difference in condition between Flex and Yates here is staggering. Just look at the skin on the legs...Dorian is peeled, bone dry. Flex looks soft and soggy in comparison

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