Dorian Vs Jay ( Ronnie says Dorian is better )

[Hulkster]

I always see talk about how Dorian still had great conditioning at heavier weights. This may be true, but he looked like ass with torn muscles and a huge midsection. So any advantage he might have in size is lost at the expense of symmetry.

he was trying for and suceeded in acheiving the Kovacsian look LOL

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I always see talk about how Dorian still had great conditioning at heavier weights. This may be true, but he looked like ass with torn muscles and a huge midsection. So any advantage he might have in size is lost at the expense of symmetry.

Nothing torn 269 pounds with unequaled conditioning at this weight , according to people who've seen them all uncompromised symmetry and balance

[NarcissisticDeity]

he was trying for and suceeded in acheiving the Kovacsian look LOL

 

Conditioning wasn't his problem in 1997 270 pounds harder and drier than Ronnie 1999 

same contest

[IceCold]

Jay winning the ironman (?) vs dorian winning the 94 or 95 Olympia (not sure what year this is)- its hard to tell dorian's post tear years apart sometimes cause he looked like garbage from the front in all of them..

wrong as always.

dorian > ronnie > jay









its really not even close.  dorian is an entirely different league than jay.

how would jay have done competing against the guys dorian beat?

i think kevin, flex, shawn, and nasser all would have beaten jay.

jay stood a chance in 03-04, but not now.

jay cant even beat victor and dexter.

jay lost his conditioning, his waist got too big, and his already bad symmetry is even worse.  nothing flows.

[Mr.1derful]

As usual, mental pygmy Huckster takes another opportunity to taint a thread that bears Dorian's name. 

[England_1]

Conditioning wasn't his problem in 1997 270 pounds harder and drier than Ronnie 1999 

same contest

Ronnie was closer to his prime (98) than Dorian was in those shots.....tell me...where is Ronnie? lol

[Royal Lion]

Those are some amazing shots of Dorian from 97; even at his "worst" he was a force to be reckoned with.  Just incredible thickness, density, and conditioning.  Long live DOZ!

[Mr Nobody]

Those are some amazing shots of Dorian from 97; even at his "worst" he was a force to be reckoned with.  Just incredible thickness, density, and conditioning.  Long live DOZ!

Dorian best O ever

[Hulkster]

Conditioning wasn't his problem in 1997 270 pounds harder and drier than Ronnie 1999 

same contest

yeah, harder and drier my ass:

Flowerboy, why do you type bullshit you know to be wrong?

do you thoroughly enjoy being stupid just for the hell of it?

I see all the other flower arrangers are out in full force on this thread LOL

[Royal Lion]

yeah, harder and drier my ass:

Flowerboy, why do you type bullshit you know to be wrong?

do you thoroughly enjoy being stupid just for the hell of it?

I see all the other flower arrangers are out in full force on this thread LOL

Yep - just as conditioned, but 20lbs heavier.   

[Hulkster]

yeah, just as conditioned my ass

yet again:

you cant win this based on the pics ND. and thats all you have. face it.

ronnie 99/2001AC  was just as cut/dry if not moreso than dorian.

and he had the shape and lack of blockiness dorian didn't.

[Hulkster]

why do you keep posting pics of dorian in 96 with arms like threads hanging off his shirt

holy twigs on a barrel in that front shot.

next time, use some better shots.

oh wait...

[Royal Lion]

yeah, just as conditioned my ass

yet again:

you cant win this based on the pics ND. and thats all you have. face it.

ronnie 99/2001AC  was just as cut/dry if not moreso than dorian.

and he had the shape and lack of blockiness dorian didn't.

Ronnie was as dry as a 2006 Dorian those years, but a 2006 Dorian is 20lbs heavier and just as dry/conditioned.  Dorian wins.

[Hulkster]

its funny how dorian how much smaller dorian's arms and quads were than ronnie, even at the same bodyweight.

dorian made up for the difference though in his enormous waist area..

[#1 Klaus fan]

When did Ronnie have veins in his fucking lats?

[Royal Lion]

its funny how dorian how much smaller dorian's arms and quads were than ronnie, even at the same bodyweight.

dorian made up for the difference though in his enormous waist area..

Ronnie has arguably the biggest arms/quads ever.  However, Dorian's were far from being so small in comparison that it's funny.  Dorian's quads had a unique shape, however, they were far from small, even comparied to Ronnie.

[Royal Lion]

Dorian had incredible quads and arms.

[Hulkster]

Dorian's quads had a unique shape

yeah, and they have been described as 'aids man' and 'radiation poisoned' by fellow getbiggers..(and not by me)

says a lot about how great that shape is, doesn't it?

[IceCold]

yeah, just as conditioned my ass

yet again:

you cant win this based on the pics ND. and thats all you have. face it.

ronnie 99/2001AC  was just as cut/dry if not moreso than dorian.

and he had the shape and lack of blockiness dorian didn't.

but he was at least 10 lbs. heavier and not as dense which is why ronnie would loose.

[Royal Lion]

When did Ronnie have veins in his fucking lats?

When could Ronnie ever come close to Dorian's ab shots?  Sick, just sick.

[clued-up]

good god.. that’s impressive. 

[Hulkster]

Dorian had incredible quads and arms.

he didn't thats the point.

even in those two shots you posted. his arms are ho hum.

his quads, worse. esp the bottom shot.

his quads have little cuts, little detail. you cant even delinate the 4 heads of the quads, unlike in ronnie and most other top pros..

[Hulkster]

^
dorian's quads are all size, little quality in comparison to ronnie

and even then, they are smaller..

its not even close.

[clued-up]

its not even close.

yates is white.. cut him a little slack.

[Royal Lion]

His quads have great separation.  Sure, "ho hum" arms