The End of the World and the Future of the Human Race - good read.

[MB_722]

http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=142

too long to copy and paste.

good read. 

[MB_722]

Can We Save Our Society?

The popular rhetoric spewed by all of the so-called leaders of the Truth Movement focuses on targeting the people in power, claiming that if we are able to somehow remove them from power, we have solved our problem. What I am arguing is that the people in power are interchangeable, and simply mechanisms by which a very old process is reaching the stage of fruition. We are rapidly approaching the end of a very long cycle.

These official talkers, on the Patriot stations and websites, typically talk about Jews and Masons and whatever else, and how they have hijacked our system, and if we can simply take it back though some unexplainable means, and transfer power over to Ron Paul or whoever else, we can use new technologies for good and establish a paradise on earth. Let me state clearly that I am not claiming these people in power are not responsible for their actions. I am simply saying that if they were not there, others would be. They are playing a role.

[Nordic Superman]

Society can be saved if a model is used that incorporates natural selection. If society doesn't natural selection will win anyway, probably with our demise.

[andreisdaman]

bump

[the_steevo_uk]

Didnt think an awful lot about that article to be honest...returning to tribalism seems an 'out of the box' solution which i suppose was interesting....

The first 3/4 was standard alarmist bullshit, one world government, dumb people being ruled by the elite blah blah blah...at one point it got so bad I thought he was going to start talking about reptilians and Illuminati

 

[Nordic Superman]

Didnt think an awful lot about that article to be honest...returning to tribalism seems an 'out of the box' solution which i suppose was interesting....

As much as humanists & socialists (which you may or may not be) hate tribalism, its impact on society has provided an environment of competition which has led to our social advancement. You see the great technological leaps Britain provided over the past 500 years with wars against European super nations resulting in the industrial revolution, maritime technologies, evolution of government style and the train etc. are a result of the effects of tribalism. The German rocket and Americas spaces programs too are a result of the effect of tribalism, the former in competition with the Allies, the latter against the Soviets.

Tribalism is natural phenomenon which has contributed greatly to the success of humans, and unfortunately, no matter how much and passionately hippies like to disagree: nature rarely gets it wrong.

[the_steevo_uk]

As much as humanists & socialists (which you may or may not be) hate tribalism, its impact on society has provided an environment of competition which has led to our social advancement. You see the great technological leaps Britain provided over the past 500 years with wars against European super nations resulting in the industrial revolution, maritime technologies, evolution of government style and the train etc. are a result of the effects of tribalism. The German rocket and Americas spaces programs too are a result of the effect of tribalism, the former in competition with the Allies, the latter against the Soviets.

Tribalism is natural phenomenon which has contributed greatly to the success of humans, and unfortunately, no matter how much and passionately hippies like to disagree: nature rarely gets it wrong.

Yeah i think that was the thesis put forward in Guns Germs and Steel, which basically said the Europeans got ahead of everybody due to their competitiveness. I would agree with that for the most part. I dislike tribalism though, trust me live in the Middle East for a bit (or look at the Caucausus as well) and you see how nausiatingly frustrating it becomes, before you're very eyes intelligent people turn into brain dead morons who get angry and upset at the slightest criticism of their tribe (i mean this in the metaphoric sense) and become blind to simple facts. I cannot tell you the amount of racism and biggotry that stems from it. For anybody with the remotest inkling of care for his fellow man I would say that tribalism in the 21st century represents only the worst of mankind.

To be honest it's not a case of being humanist or socialist, while I have some sympathy for humanism I would probably describe myself as a very mild conservative. Like I said before, I personally am tired with presenting people with a straight up fact and have them reject it outright because it disagrees with what their tribe has indoctrinated into them, I think humans can do a bit better than that.

[Deicide]

Yeah i think that was the thesis put forward in Guns Germs and Steel, which basically said the Europeans got ahead of everybody due to their competitiveness. I would agree with that for the most part. I dislike tribalism though, trust me live in the Middle East for a bit (or look at the Caucausus as well) and you see how nausiatingly frustrating it becomes, before you're very eyes intelligent people turn into brain dead morons who get angry and upset at the slightest criticism of their tribe (i mean this in the metaphoric sense) and become blind to simple facts. I cannot tell you the amount of racism and biggotry that stems from it. For anybody with the remotest inkling of care for his fellow man I would say that tribalism in the 21st century represents only the worst of mankind.

To be honest it's not a case of being humanist or socialist, while I have some sympathy for humanism I would probably describe myself as a very mild conservative. Like I said before, I personally am tired with presenting people with a straight up fact and have them reject it outright because it disagrees with what their tribe has indoctrinated into them, I think humans can do a bit better than that.

Thank the gods you speak with RP though; I am relieved. Hardly anyone can do it anymore...

[the_steevo_uk]

Thank the gods you speak with RP though; I am relieved. Hardly anyone can do it anymore...

Really? You must be hanging around the wrong people, or maybe I've been away from England for too long! I have to admit this business of the BBC employing reporters with strong regional accents is just plain wierd...I guess they figured that if Ant and Dec could become successfull then anybody could...bloody Huw Edwards and his outrageous Welsh Accent.

btw Im sure there must be some sort of NGO which promotes proper diction...most likely found in London though!

[Deicide]

Really? You must be hanging around the wrong people, or maybe I've been away from England for too long! I have to admit this business of the BBC employing reporters with strong regional accents is just plain wierd...I guess they figured that if Ant and Dec could become successfull then anybody could...bloody Huw Edwards and his outrageous Welsh Accent.

btw Im sure there must be some sort of NGO which promotes proper diction...most likely found in London though!

I live in Yorkshire, what do you expect? Still, I think there is much too little emphasis on RP these days; I mean in my department you get PhDs with broad Yorkshire accents. 

[the_steevo_uk]

I live in Yorkshire, what do you expect? Still, I think there is much too little emphasis on RP these days; I mean in my department you get PhDs with broad Yorkshire accents. 

That is wierd...though I knew a guy from York who went to my Uni in London and his accent has pretty much gone now...dude was a proper 'old labour' socialist as well...think London mellowed him out a bit. Most folk who end up at Oxford or Cambridge tend to lose their accents as well.

You studying at York? I heard good things about it


Team RP approved

[Deicide]

That is wierd...though I knew a guy from York who went to my Uni in London and his accent has pretty much gone now...dude was a proper 'old labour' socialist as well...think London mellowed him out a bit. Most folk who end up at Oxford or Cambridge tend to lose their accents as well.

You studying at York? I heard good things about it


Team RP approved

Yeah, it's a good Uni. My department got ranked #2 this year just behind Cambridge in the UK. No real complaints apart from my laziness. York is nice and quiet, wouldn't want to stay here forever though.

Team RP approved

[Nordic Superman]

Yeah i think that was the thesis put forward in Guns Germs and Steel, which basically said the Europeans got ahead of everybody due to their competitiveness. I would agree with that for the most part. I dislike tribalism though, trust me live in the Middle East for a bit (or look at the Caucausus as well) and you see how nausiatingly frustrating it becomes, before you're very eyes intelligent people turn into brain dead morons who get angry and upset at the slightest criticism of their tribe (i mean this in the metaphoric sense) and become blind to simple facts. I cannot tell you the amount of racism and biggotry that stems from it. For anybody with the remotest inkling of care for his fellow man I would say that tribalism in the 21st century represents only the worst of mankind.

Not many people do like tribalism, who in their right mind would? That's not to say tribalism has resulted in considerable human advancements.

Racism and bigotry too are key variables in advancement. Within natural selection it is pretty much the defining factor in the creation of species. Human races are a  result of divergence in populations, eventually (given enough time) if globalisation etc. didn't occur nergoids, cacausoids and mongoloids would become distinct species incapable of producing fertile offspring - from a survival standpoint it make sense to look after "your own" for they share more genes in common - and it is the genes themselves that wish to be carried on into the next generation.

As far as I am concerned, remove the competitiveness of tribalism (racism, nationalism [inc. national pride / patriotism]) and we will stagnate as a species. Tribalism represents nature, it's not a human creation.

Personally I have a huge grievance with modern socialist welfare states that allow the lesser equiped to breed and have as much a guaranteed survival as those equiped best. I'd probably be open to the idea of enforcing something that would make it extremely difficult for those lesser equiped to procreate so freely based on the generosity of the collective. One day I'm certain such a mechanism will be in place, otherwise over population will be the end of us as a species and maybe the rest of the world.

[Deicide]

Yeah i think that was the thesis put forward in Guns Germs and Steel, which basically said the Europeans got ahead of everybody due to their competitiveness. I would agree with that for the most part. I dislike tribalism though, trust me live in the Middle East for a bit (or look at the Caucausus as well) and you see how nausiatingly frustrating it becomes, before you're very eyes intelligent people turn into brain dead morons who get angry and upset at the slightest criticism of their tribe (i mean this in the metaphoric sense) and become blind to simple facts. I cannot tell you the amount of racism and biggotry that stems from it. For anybody with the remotest inkling of care for his fellow man I would say that tribalism in the 21st century represents only the worst of mankind.

To be honest it's not a case of being humanist or socialist, while I have some sympathy for humanism I would probably describe myself as a very mild conservative. Like I said before, I personally am tired with presenting people with a straight up fact and have them reject it outright because it disagrees with what their tribe has indoctrinated into them, I think humans can do a bit better than that.

QFT btw.

[MB_722]

bumping this cause I'm reading the new comments at the bottom