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Re: UFC 100 Official Thread
« Reply #275 on: July 09, 2009, 06:49:33 PM »
I'm just giving you a hard time! don't get all crazy old man! It"s all good and worked out either way, how was I supposed to know you would start the betting thread 2 months early? ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Here ya go Fu@kers; Learn What Will Happen at UFC 100
« Reply #276 on: July 09, 2009, 07:06:56 PM »
Swede,

How many threads have you not commented on since your joining on this board?


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Re: I predict an upset for Mir...
« Reply #277 on: July 09, 2009, 07:16:54 PM »
I think Brock has properly learned how to punch now, so we should see no more hammerfists.

Judging by the fact that everyone he's hit with a direct punch has fallen on their ass, I'd say if he lands a good clean shot Mir is in trouble.

Esp. considering there's 285lbs. of muscle behind that punch :)

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UFC 100 Pre-Fight Press Conference Video
« Reply #278 on: July 09, 2009, 07:52:14 PM »
Check out the UFC 100 pre-fight press conference video at http://mmawaves.com/?p=1293

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Re: UFC 100 Pre-Fight Press Conference Video
« Reply #279 on: July 09, 2009, 08:02:30 PM »
Look at this guy linking away from our site to his.. What a sneaky devil... Just playing it's all good.

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Re: UFC 100 Pre-Fight Press Conference Video
« Reply #280 on: July 09, 2009, 08:07:15 PM »







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UFC 100 Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: The Punching Power of Brock Lesnar
« Reply #281 on: July 09, 2009, 08:14:22 PM »
 I've been blogging away about the many cool submissions of Frank Mir's UFC career and I don't want to give the impression that I'm expecting big things from Frank Mir and overlooking his opponent: the dread Brock Lesnar.

Because of Lesnar's NCAA wrestling pedigree you'd probably expect a Judo Chop featuring him to focus on his takedowns or his top control. Nope.

It's his punching power, reach and technique that has really impressed me. When he landed the first punch against Heath Herring at UFC 87 and sent Herring hurtling across the Octagon ass-over-ears with a shattered orbital bone, the MMA world realized that Brock Lesnar had begun to channel his raw power into a very dangerous standing game.

Sadly, I couldn't find a still of Lesnar that shows that punch and had to settle for a lesser later punch that isn't as technically crisp.

Lesnar also used technically sound punching to beat Randy Couture at UFC 91. The really frightening thing about the shot he dropped Couture with is his sheer reach. Couture actually ducked to avoid the punch but Lesnar's arms are so freaking long that Couture actually ducked and came back up to get caught before Lesnar's punch was through unwinding. Its a testament to Lesnar's sheer athletic talent and his trainability that he has added some basic but very technically sound striking to his budding MMA game.


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Brock Lesnar "Respect Is For Losers":
« Reply #282 on: July 09, 2009, 08:15:12 PM »
"I didn’t have any respect for Randy [Couture], I didn’t have any respect for Heath [Herring], I don’t have any respect for Frank."

"There’s going to be a winner, there’s going to be a loser. As soon as you step in and have any respect for your opponent, I think you become the loser a hell of a lot sooner."

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UFC 95 is probably an event that Jon Fitch's teammate Josh Koscheck would prefer to forget. Fresh off a stunning knockout victory of Yoshiyuki Yoshida at UFC Fight for the Troops in which Koscheck immediately gained new fans for his headhunting style, Koscheck met newcomer Paulo Thiago in a fight that many fans considered a squash match for Koscheck to end in spectacular fashion.

For the first three minutes of the bout, Koscheck forged into Thiago's range and threw heavy-handed bombs at the Brazilian submission specialist. Thiago tried to hang standing with Koscheck for most of the round, but it was evident that he had a much weaker striking game. Close to the 3:20 mark in the round, that all changed with an uppercut that found its mark on Koscheck's chin. Referee Marc Goddard stepped in to stop the bout, and a visibly upset Josh Koscheck denounced Goddard's decision. However you may feel about the stoppage, Paulo Thiago had beaten the odds and pulled off a surprise upset win.

Fast forward to Saturday night in which Paulo Thiago will have a chance to prove that he's no fluke. He'll take on Koscheck teammate and AKA member Jon Fitch in what is once again looking to be a squash match for the UFC to feature Jon Fitch.

What tells the tale that this could be a squash match? First and foremost, Paulo Thiago isn't a striking phenom. In fact, he looked appalling in his stand-up technique up until the flash knockout of Josh Koscheck at UFC 95. He was easily rattled by Koscheck's aggression and power, and he was taking substantial damage early. The major difference here is that Fitch won't be headhunting for Thiago. Jon Fitch is one wrestler who has avoided the trap of trying to win bonuses and fans by winging booming overhands.


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UFC 100 Preview: Michael Bisping Out to Prove He's a Top Contender
« Reply #284 on: July 09, 2009, 08:17:29 PM »
The UFC's middleweight division has been one of the more controversial weight classes in the sport for quite some time. Not only is the division seen as a shallow talent pool, but it has also suffered from having an overly dominant champion in Anderson Silva. An appalling performance at UFC 97 by Thales Leites didn't help. The controversy stems from the fact that Leites' performance excluded Demian Maia from receiving a title shot due to both being jiu jitsu stylists.

Enter Michael Bisping and Dan Henderson. Bisping vs. Henderson was not only a smart move in terms of creating an Ultimate Fighter season in which the UFC could pit the UK fighters vs. the U.S. fighters, but it also enables the UFC to push two fighters that have no qualms about trying to strike or takedown current champion Anderson Silva. Either fighter will take the fight to Silva as opposed to the passive approach of Thales Leites.

Additionally, the show had international appeal as it drew in current UK fans while adding to that fanbase by featuring Michael Bisping as a coach. It also brings in a new crop of fighters from the UK, and we all know that the UK fanbase could use some more star power than just Michael Bisping, Dan Hardy, Paul Taylor, and Terry Etim.

Not only does this bout provide a title contender that won't try the same style that Leites implemented against Silva, but if Bisping happens to defeat Henderson, it will surely set the stage for a massive event in the UK in which the UFC can make some solid revenue.

Stylistically, this bout has some mystery to it. Michael Bisping hasn't shown a solid wrestling base or unbelievable striking pedigree in the cage in many of his fights. He has managed to topple lesser competition in quick fashion, but his battles against Matt Hammil and Rashad Evans were telling signs that his game has yet to fully develop. After three consecutive wins following his bout with Rashad Evans, the question remains as to whether his skill set has improved.


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Will a Win Over Thiago Alves Send Georges St Pierre to Middleweight?
« Reply #285 on: July 09, 2009, 08:21:22 PM »
 Brian Oswald thinks so:

If St-Pierre earns his 11th win in 12 fights, it would add more fuel to the fiery talk that he should move up to middleweight. Victory won't come easy. Alves is a bigger welterweight than the champion, and also is better able than most to stymie St-Pierre's takedown ability.
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Some will argue the Mike Swick-Martin Kampmann winner at UFC 103 would provide a good matchup, and Fitch himself has said he is not the same fighter that lost to the champion last summer. Despite those options, the most compelling and competitive fights for St-Pierre will be waiting for him in the middleweight division.

On the top of the list for most fans is a super-fight between himself and champion Anderson Silva. While people will argue St-Pierre should have to prove himself in the division before getting an immediate title shot, those sentiments will be silenced if UFC President Dana White wants to broker the fight.

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However, what's really on the line is GSP's legacy. He can finish out his career by continuing to rack up wins in the welterweight division, or he can significantly increase the level of his competition by moving onward and upward.

From a business angle, the logic is inexorable. Both Anderson Silva and Georges St Pierre are short of big money opponents in their own division. The problem is much worse for Anderson Silva, since he is not a draw himself and of the challengers nipping at his heels, only Michael Bisping is both a fresh opponent and a bit of a draw at least in the U.K.

In GSP's case, Mike Swick is at least a well known face to TUF fans and a win over Martin Kampmann would give Swick a legitimate, if arguable, claim on a title shot. But frankly, until and unless a new wave of young bloods emerges in the welterweight division -- I'm looking at you Dustin Hazelett, Anthony Johnson, and maybe, just maybe Paulo Thiago -- GSP might very well be better off testing the waters at middleweight

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As we build up to UFC 100, I've been running through the submissions UFC interim heavyweight champ Frank Mir is known for. We've covered his kneebar against Brock Lesnar, the Mir Lock, and the Footlock he busted out against Tank Abbott.

That's pretty much his greatest hits, right? I mean, sure, it was impressive when he armbarred BJJ black belt Roberto Traven, but that fight was in the "Dark Ages" and no one really talks about it as much as it merits. Oh wait, there is one more submission win Frank Mir has notched in the UFC that does get a little bit of attention.

Yeah, that's right, people still talk about Frank snapping Tim Sylvia's arm on live PPV at UFC 48. How could I forget? I also realize that I've never done a Judo Chop about the humble arm bar. Possibly the most high percentage submission in the game (after the rear naked choke), the arm bar gets taken for granted by nerds like myself.

According to our own Leland Roling's analysis of the FightFinder database, 5305 out of 62,600 fights ended via armbar or 8.47% of all fights and 5588 out of 62,600 ended via Rear Naked Choke or 8.93% of all fights.

But when we saw it for the first time at UFC 2, when Royce Gracie tapped out Jason DeLucia with it and the announcer was saying "Yup, he popped the capsule. Royce definitely broke his arm." It was pretty mind blowing stuff. The common-place status of the arm bar in today's MMA is testament to the ubiquituousness of jiu jitsu in the sport.

Here's Frank talking about that fight to BodyBuilding magazine:

Tim's was an interesting break since I snapped his forearm in half. You have to give him credit though. Even with his arm snapped in two he was still trying to pick me up with the same arm. He wanted to continue to fight me one handed.

It was an odd experience. The crowd didn't totally get that I had busted his arm in half and so they were surprised by the stoppage.

The funny part about that arm bar is that Sylvia didn't realize his arm had been broken either. That says a lot about Sylvia's pain tolerance and the power of adrenaline. But there's another factor that often gets over-looked: Sylvia had done what you need to do to escape from most arm bars. He had pulled his arm back enough to get the elbow out from between Mir's legs. The elbow is the normal pivot point that is attacked by the arm bar, not the middle of the forearm in this instance.

Mir has commented in interviews that it was his protective cup operating as a fulcrum (along with his considerable power) that snapped Sylvia's forearm. Normally, the hip acts as the fulcrum against the pivot point of the elbow. The combination of Mir's power, Sylvia's extremely long arms and the hard shell protective cup over Mir's manly goods was a bad one for Big Tim.

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Re: UFC 100...on TV in the UK?
« Reply #287 on: July 09, 2009, 08:28:45 PM »
It says on Sky's website that it's only available in Ireland.

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Re: Brock Lesnar "Respect Is For Losers":
« Reply #288 on: July 09, 2009, 08:30:23 PM »
LOL ;D
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Re: Brock Lesnar "Respect Is For Losers":
« Reply #289 on: July 09, 2009, 08:44:15 PM »



sounds crude but the guy has a point....

love the way he's carrying his "wrassling schtick" into the UFC with him...



people are always gonna pay to see him lose

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Re: Will a Win Over Thiago Alves Send Georges St Pierre to Middleweight?
« Reply #290 on: July 09, 2009, 08:47:58 PM »
Andersons way too big for GSP...

p4p they're close on talent, but the size deficit will kill GSP

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Re: Here ya go Fu@kers; Learn What Will Happen at UFC 100
« Reply #291 on: July 09, 2009, 09:06:58 PM »
I can't see GSP losing to anyone at this point, not even Silva.

I love GSP and think he could beat Anderson Silva. But Thiago's aggression is what's going to make or break the fight. I'd say it's a 50/50 change. GSP's my home boy and favorite fighter, but Thiago is a fucking ANIMAL. Abuses the shit out of diuretics and looks to be 20lbs heavier by the time he's fighting.

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Re: Brock Lesnar "Respect Is For Losers":
« Reply #292 on: July 09, 2009, 10:25:48 PM »
lol i cant believe he said that

you can tell he hasnt had an ass whoopin ever.

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Re: Here ya go Fu@kers; Learn What Will Happen at UFC 100
« Reply #293 on: July 10, 2009, 12:35:11 AM »
Wrong on all those picks except for the possiblity of a Lesner win, perfer Mir though.

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Ok dudes Im leaving. BUT UFC 100
« Reply #294 on: July 10, 2009, 03:33:02 AM »
Until Sunday. And I wont have a internet connection.

So Im putting my trust in you people to go NUTS For me on the boards if Brock wins over mir?

Please?
Can?
You?
Do?
That?

Ive been the only member on Team Lesnar now for years. Squadfather and SS had a short burst as members though lol!

Please.



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Whats lees arm routine btw? BB RELATED




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Re: Ok dudes Im leaving. BUT UFC 100
« Reply #295 on: July 10, 2009, 04:31:29 AM »
 :'(

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Re: Ok dudes Im leaving. BUT UFC 100
« Reply #296 on: July 10, 2009, 04:32:54 AM »
Looking so forward to UFC  100 :o :D

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Re: Ok dudes Im leaving. BUT UFC 100
« Reply #297 on: July 10, 2009, 04:35:24 AM »
Looking so forward to UFC  100 :o :D

Ive had a semi boner all week because of it!

man Oh man Im gonna go NUTS 6 a clock in the morning if he wins  ;D

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Re: Ok dudes Im leaving. BUT UFC 100
« Reply #298 on: July 10, 2009, 04:36:21 AM »
Ive had a semi boner all week because of it!

man Oh man Im gonna go NUTS 6 a clock in the morning if he wins  ;D

It looks like Lesnar might win, yes :D

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Re: Ok dudes Im leaving. BUT UFC 100
« Reply #299 on: July 10, 2009, 04:53:21 AM »
It looks like Lesnar might win, yes :D

If he doesn't accidentally get caught in a stupid sumbmission he will RUN OVER MIR LIKE A FOCKING TRAIN