Author Topic: Why haven't we been back? (Read 4781 times)

Eyeball Chambers · « **on:** June 16, 2009, 11:29:19 PM »

There were 6 manned trips to the Moon between 1969 and 1972. Why did we quit visiting the moon?

webcake · « **Reply #1 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:32:01 PM »

Because we never went in the first place........

StickStickly · « **Reply #2 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:35:35 PM »

Quote from: RPF on June 16, 2009, 11:29:19 PM

There were 6 manned trips to the Moon between 1969 and 1972. Why did we quit visiting the moon?

Annunaki

The True Adonis · « **Reply #3 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM »

Tons of reasons with the main being Reagan sucking up NASA research money for Weapons development. Clinton recovered NASA only to hand it off again to an incompetent administration.

We launched 2 vehicles this week to the moon with one probe which will beam back an entire mapping of the moon`s surface for a future manned mission by 2020.

Also, this probe will be able to beam back the Lunar Rover tracks which will hopefully shut you stupid and idiotic conspiracy theorists up for good.

RPF, on a side note, Ron Paul wanted to dissolve NASA completely and actively ran on that as a campaign issue. Ron Paul is a moron.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #4 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:50:24 PM »

Quote from: webcke on June 16, 2009, 11:32:01 PM

Because we never went in the first place........

You are an idiot.

Jeffro · « **Reply #5 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:52:41 PM »

Quote from: webcke on June 16, 2009, 11:32:01 PM

Because we never went in the first place........

If by "we" you mean Austrailians, then yes, you're correct.

gordiano · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2009, 12:04:56 AM »

I heard Plazmosis will be used by NASA as the official fuel for the Space Program.

webcake · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2009, 12:17:28 AM »

I making that post on behalf on 240.......

LatsMcGee · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2009, 01:17:06 AM »

Maybe we should send Johnny Falcon to the moon.

Meso_z · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2009, 01:26:29 AM »

Quote from: webcke on June 16, 2009, 11:32:01 PM

Because we never went in the first place........

true.

Americans never stepped on the moon.

Russians, yes.

Mars · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2009, 01:37:54 AM »

HDPhysiques · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2009, 01:42:17 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on June 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM

Tons of reasons with the main being Reagan sucking up NASA research money for Weapons development. Clinton recovered NASA only to hand it off again to an incompetent administration.

Reagan wasn't in office when we stopped going to the moon in the mid 70's. The main reason was the high cost of the Apollo program (which is indeed one of, if not THE greatest achievement in human history), and the need for newer, cheaper, re-useable spacecraft to more frequently travel to space to conduct experiments in micro-gravity environments, set up networks of communications and other types of satellites, etc...

The sad thing is.... today's annual NASA budget equals what we are blowing in about 6 weeks in Iraq.

Quote from: The True Adonis on June 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM

We launched 2 vehicles this week to the moon with one probe which will beam back an entire mapping of the moon`s surface for a future manned mission by 2020.

Not yet. The Atlas rocket carrying these 2 vehicles was supposed to launch today (6/17), but it was pushed back to make way for the Shuttle Endeavor launch, which was moved to this morning after it was scrubbed last Saturday due to hydrogen leak. After range reconfiguration, the earliest the unmanned moon vehicles can launch is Thurs afternoon, but more likely Friday afternoon. Ironically, they should've left the Atlas on the 17th, as the shuttle was just scrubbed again due to another hydrogen leak, and now cannot launch until 7/11/09.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:05:52 AM »

Quote from: HDPhysiques on June 17, 2009, 01:42:17 AM

Reagan wasn't in office when we stopped going to the moon in the mid 70's. The main reason was the high cost of the Apollo program (which is indeed one of, if not THE greatest achievement in human history), and the need for newer, cheaper, re-useable spacecraft to more frequently travel to space to conduct experiments in micro-gravity environments, set up networks of communications and other types of satellites, etc...

The sad thing is.... today's annual NASA budget equals what we are blowing in about 6 weeks in Iraq.

Not yet. The Atlas rocket carrying these 2 vehicles was supposed to launch today (6/17), but it was pushed back to make way for the Shuttle Endeavor launch, which was moved to this morning after it was scrubbed last Saturday due to hydrogen leak. After range reconfiguration, the earliest the unmanned moon vehicles can launch is Thurs afternoon, but more likely Friday afternoon. Ironically, they should've left the Atlas on the 17th, as the shuttle was just scrubbed again due to another hydrogen leak, and now cannot launch until 7/11/09.

Wrong.

This Thursday, the 18th, is the launch for the LRO and the LCROSS.

http://lro.gsfc.nasa.gov/

New Launch Date Set

June 15, 2009 - As a result of the rescheduling of space shuttle Endeavour's STS-127 mission for June 17, LRO and LCROSS are now set to lift off together aboard an Atlas V rocket on Thursday, June 18.

There will be three launch opportunities from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida at 5:12 p.m., 5:22 p.m. and 5:32 p.m. EDT

LatsMcGee · « **Reply #13 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:08:12 AM »

Melvin Goodrum eats cum.

Mars · « **Reply #14 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:08:58 AM »

Quote from: Mars on June 17, 2009, 01:37:54 AM

weird image.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #15 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:19:36 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on June 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM

Also, this probe will be able to beam back the Lunar Rover tracks which will hopefully shut you stupid and idiotic conspiracy theorists up for good.

too bad those tracks are 50 years old. Doubt theyre still there. If anything they should send photos of the dusty flag where ever it is

sync pulse · « **Reply #16 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:41:11 AM »

Quote from: HDPhysiques on June 17, 2009, 01:42:17 AM

Reagan wasn't in office when we stopped going to the moon in the mid 70's. The main reason was the high cost of the Apollo program (which is indeed one of, if not THE greatest achievement in human history), and the need for newer, cheaper, re-useable spacecraft to more frequently travel to space to conduct experiments in micro-gravity environments, set up networks of communications and other types of satellites, etc...

It was Richard Nixon that canceled the rest of the Apollo program,...penny wise/pound foolish as it turned out.
Money spent on basic scientific research is always well spent.

Quote from: 2ND COMING on June 17, 2009, 02:19:36 AM

too bad those tracks are 50 years old. Doubt theyre still there. If anything they should send photos of the dusty flag where ever it is

They are still there, because there is no atmosphere to erode them.

WillGrant · « **Reply #17 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:42:53 AM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on June 17, 2009, 02:19:36 AM

too bad those tracks are 50 years old. Doubt theyre still there. If anything they should send photos of the dusty flag where ever it is

Its in Storage in a hollywood studio

JOCKTHEGLIDE · « **Reply #18 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:44:02 AM »

Quote from: gordiano on June 17, 2009, 12:04:56 AM

I heard Plazmosis will be used by NASA as the official fuel for the Space Program.

ALL THEY NEED FOR THE ROCK SHIP IS 2 SCOOPS BEFORE LIFT OFF,,TAKING 4 WOULD BE SUICIDE FOR SURE

gordiano · « **Reply #19 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:49:05 AM »

Quote from: JOCKTHEGLIDE on June 17, 2009, 02:44:02 AM

ALL THEY NEED FOR THE ROCK SHIP IS 2 SCOOPS BEFORE LIFT OFF,,TAKING 4 WOULD BE SUICIDE FOR SURE

OMFG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

2ND COMING · « **Reply #20 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:56:48 AM »

Quote from: sync pulse on June 17, 2009, 02:41:11 AM

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They are still there, because there is no atmosphere to erode them.

there are many elements that can erode the surface, especialy some tire tracks.

and there is an atmosphere. Its just very very thin.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #21 on:** June 17, 2009, 03:12:47 AM »

from the nasa website

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Moon Storms

12.07.2005

An old Apollo experiment is telling researchers something new and surprising about the moon.
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December 7, 2005: Every lunar morning, when the sun first peeks over the dusty soil of the moon after two weeks of frigid lunar night, a strange storm stirs the surface.

The next time you see the moon, trace your finger along the terminator, the dividing line between lunar night and day. That's where the storm is. It's a long and skinny dust storm, stretching all the way from the north pole to the south pole, swirling across the surface, following the terminator as sunrise ceaselessly sweeps around the moon.
Never heard of it? Few have. But scientists are increasingly confident that the storm is real.

The evidence comes from an old Apollo experiment called LEAM, short for Lunar Ejecta and Meteorites. "Apollo 17 astronauts installed LEAM on the moon in 1972," explains Timothy Stubbs of the Solar System Exploration Division at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "It was designed to look for dust kicked up by small meteoroids hitting the moon's surface."

Right: The box in the foreground is the Lunar Ejecta and Meteorites Experiment (LEAM). [More]

Billions of years ago, meteoroids hit the moon almost constantly, pulverizing rocks and coating the moon's surface with their dusty debris. Indeed, this is the reason why the moon is so dusty. Today these impacts happen less often, but they still happen.

Apollo-era scientists wanted to know, how much dust is ejected by daily impacts? And what are the properties of that dust? LEAM was to answer these questions using three sensors that could record the speed, energy, and direction of tiny particles: one each pointing up, east, and west.

LEAM's three-decade-old data are so intriguing, they're now being reexamined by several independent groups of NASA and university scientists. Gary Olhoeft, professor of geophysics at the Colorado School of Mines in Golden, is one of them:

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"To everyone's surprise," says Olhoeft, "LEAM saw a large number of particles every morning, mostly coming from the east or west--rather than above or below--and mostly slower than speeds expected for lunar ejecta."

What could cause this? Stubbs has an idea: "The dayside of the moon is positively charged; the nightside is negatively charged." At the interface between night and day, he explains, "electrostatically charged dust would be pushed across the terminator sideways," by horizontal electric fields. (Learn more: "Moon Fountains." )
Even more surprising, Olhoeft continues, a few hours after every lunar sunrise, the experiment's temperature rocketed so high--near that of boiling water--that "LEAM had to be turned off because it was overheating."

Those strange observations could mean that "electrically-charged moondust was sticking to LEAM, darkening its surface so the experiment package absorbed rather than reflected sunlight," speculates Olhoeft.

But nobody knows for sure. LEAM operated for a very short time: only 620 hours of data were gathered during the icy lunar night and a mere 150 hours of data from the blazing lunar day before its sensors were turned off and the Apollo program ended.

Astronauts may have seen the storms, too. While orbiting the Moon, the crews of Apollo 8, 10, 12, and 17 sketched "bands" or "twilight rays" where sunlight was apparently filtering through dust above the moon's surface. This happened before each lunar sunrise and just after each lunar sunset. NASA's Surveyor spacecraft also photographed twilight "horizon glows," much like what the astronauts saw.

HDPhysiques · « **Reply #22 on:** June 17, 2009, 03:31:10 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on June 17, 2009, 02:05:52 AM

Wrong.

This Thursday, the 18th, is the launch for the LRO and the LCROSS.

http://lro.gsfc.nasa.gov/

New Launch Date Set

June 15, 2009 - As a result of the rescheduling of space shuttle Endeavour's STS-127 mission for June 17, LRO and LCROSS are now set to lift off together aboard an Atlas V rocket on Thursday, June 18.

There will be three launch opportunities from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida at 5:12 p.m., 5:22 p.m. and 5:32 p.m. EDT

No, you are wrong. Look at the date on your info - June 15th. My info is from a couple of hours ago (3:30am 6/17) at the news conference following the 2nd scrub of the Shuttle Endeavor launch. They originally had to reset the Atlas date for the 18th, because that was assuming that if Endeavor was to be scrubbed, it would be scurbbed before 12:00am on the 17th, and they would have enough time to reconfig the range in time for an 18th launch. Over night, Endeavor was not scrubbed until 2:00am, so the launch teams do not believe it will be possible to be ready for Atlas on the 18th. There's still a small chance that the Moon mission can go on Thursday the 18th, but it's very doubtful as they have to reconfigure the range for fueling, radar tracking, cameras, security, etc... from launch complex 39a (shuttle), to the launch complex for the Atlas rockets (forget the number). Most likely, the range will not be ready, which will result in launch attempts for Atlas on Fri and Saturday, weather permitting. Even if it DOES go up on Thursday, it's still consistent with the information within my post. I just said it's more likely for a Friday launch. Therefore, I am not wrong, sorry.

Gino30 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 17, 2009, 05:51:09 AM »

who said we went in the first place?

abovetopsecret.com

Jim Marrs

The Dark Moon

do some reading

The Nub Monster · « **Reply #24 on:** June 17, 2009, 06:04:14 AM »

Anybody who thinks we have been to the moon is a deluded as that silly kaffa Vince Goodrum.