If Palin chooses to run in 2012...

[240 is Back]

Granted, I've been a little critical of her in the past.  She had 18 months of campaigning for president as Gov for experience, and she mumbled her way thru a few carefully controlled interviews. 

However, since she has a political action committee and is working hard to keep her name relevant thru various TV feuds, book deals, and abstinence tours, it looks like we may see her throw her hat into the ring for a 2012 run.

Who would she likely be up against in 2012? 
If obama is doing poorly, some good candidates might enter.  if he's kicking butt, they will likely sit it out for 2016.  Would Mitt, Huck, barbour, pawlenty, and jindal all enter the race?

What would she be like in interviews?
Remember that the campaign trail is 18 months of answering questions 15 hours each day.  Will she refuse like she did in 2008?  If Mitt and Huck will talk to reporters all day, and palin refuses, what will happen to her coverage?

What would her earning potential be?
If there's another promising star on the horizon that FOX annoints the next great hope, will they (since they have turned on her big time) cost her the far-right donations she got in 2008? 

Would anyone pick her for VP choice again?
If another candidate wins, would they repeat mccain's choice of her as VP?  60% of 2008 voters said she wasn't even prepared to be VP.  Would that info influence their decision?

Personally I think a bright and shining star will emerge in 2012 and give obama a run for his money.  I don't know if palin has the shrewdness to get thru a year of speaking without getting herself into trouble, or that the party even takes her seriously.  Especially with how she's not even mentioned in most major power repub polls for 2012 options.

[2ND COMING]

another palin thread

its too early to be discussing this

[Mons Venus]

Granted, I've been a little critical of her in the past.  She had 18 months of campaigning for president as Gov for experience, and she mumbled her way thru a few carefully controlled interviews. 

However, since she has a political action committee and is working hard to keep her name relevant thru various TV feuds, book deals, and abstinence tours, it looks like we may see her throw her hat into the ring for a 2012 run.

Who would she likely be up against in 2012? 
If obama is doing poorly, some good candidates might enter.  if he's kicking butt, they will likely sit it out for 2016.  Would Mitt, Huck, barbour, pawlenty, and jindal all enter the race?

What would she be like in interviews?
Remember that the campaign trail is 18 months of answering questions 15 hours each day.  Will she refuse like she did in 2008?  If Mitt and Huck will talk to reporters all day, and palin refuses, what will happen to her coverage?

What would her earning potential be?
If there's another promising star on the horizon that FOX annoints the next great hope, will they (since they have turned on her big time) cost her the far-right donations she got in 2008? 

Would anyone pick her for VP choice again?
If another candidate wins, would they repeat mccain's choice of her as VP?  60% of 2008 voters said she wasn't even prepared to be VP.  Would that info influence their decision?

Personally I think a bright and shining star will emerge in 2012 and give obama a run for his money.  I don't know if palin has the shrewdness to get thru a year of speaking without getting herself into trouble, or that the party even takes her seriously.  Especially with how she's not even mentioned in most major power repub polls for 2012 options.

Pass the Bong 240.   

[LurkerNoMore]

If Palin runs in 2012?  (or any year?)

We see a beat down on the primary ballot that could only be described as "lethal force" from within her own party.

[Soul Crusher]

If Palin runs in 2012?  (or any year?)

We see a beat down on the primary ballot that could only be described as "lethal force" from within her own party.

Palin 2012 - Change EVEN Lurker, 240, Mons, Straw, Benny, TA, will be begging for. 

[BM OUT]

Palin 2012 - Change EVEN Lurker, 240, Mons, Straw, Benny, TA, will be begging for. 

I love it when 240 goes on and on about her interviews.She did ONE bad interview.In fact,her performance in that interview was better then Joe Bidens in his interview with Couric.The other day she bitch slapped little Matt Lawer.She will be fine.Not saying she will win.

By the way,if I could vote for anyone ,Id vote for Paul Ryan.Hes only a congressman and young,but HE will be the future of conservatives,not Palin.

[LurkerNoMore]

Palin 2012 - Change EVEN Lurker, 240, Mons, Straw, Benny, TA, will be begging for. 

Only if America is a nuclear wasteland, people are living out of duffle bags, I am living across the pond in Capir or Amalfi and looking over the pond at the entertainment value of it all.

Then I would beg for her. Until that happens, she won't be winning the local bingo.

[shootfighter1]

I agree with many of Palin's general ideas but there will be stronger candidates in 2012.  If Obama passes most of what he is trying to get through, I believe there will be a change of power in 2012.  Too much debt and we will see taxes on more items go up to try to pay for it.

[Soul Crusher]

I agree with many of Palin's general ideas but there will be stronger candidates in 2012.  If Obama passes most of what he is trying to get through, I believe there will be a change of power in 2012.  Too much debt and we will see taxes on more items go up to try to pay for it.

Look, I like Palin: 

BUT:

1.  She needs to get with a speech coach to get the DC lingo down cold.
2.  She needs to brush up on subjects she is not familiar with.
3.  She needs to go on a detailed attack against Obama's spending and get away from the Springer nonsense.

 

[Eyeball Chambers]

I'd hit it...

[BM OUT]

Only if America is a nuclear wasteland, people are living out of duffle bags, I am living across the pond in Capir or Amalfi and looking over the pond at the entertainment value of it all.

Then I would beg for her. Until that happens, she won't be winning the local bingo.

She ALREADY won as a governor.A governor is VASTLY more important and impressive then a congressman or senator.There are only 50 governors,SHE IS one of them.So,I believe thats more then bingo.So,in reality,she has accomplished FAR more then big shots like Teddy Kennedy,Boxer,or Frank.She has trumped them in her career.

By the way,did you see that arrogant jerk Boxer the other day force the army General to call her senator?Talk about an arrogant little bitch.She is a typical left wing lib kook senator ,so filled with their self worth.

[Soul Crusher]

She ALREADY won as a governor.A governor is VASTLY more important and impressive then a congressman or senator.There are only 50 governors,SHE IS one of them.So,I believe thats more then bingo.So,in reality,she has accomplished FAR more then big shots like Teddy Kennedy,Boxer,or Frank.She has trumped them in her career.

By the way,did you see that arrogant jerk Boxer the other day force the army General to call her senator?Talk about an arrogant little bitch.She is a typical left wing lib kook senator ,so filled with their self worth.

That was horrible.  Boxer is a nasty brooklyn filty C$%^.

[240 is Back]

She ALREADY won as a governor.A governor is VASTLY more important and impressive then a congressman or senator.There are only 50 governors,SHE IS one of them.So,I believe thats more then bingo.So,in reality,she has accomplished FAR more then big shots like Teddy Kennedy,Boxer,or Frank.She has trumped them in her career.

She has accomplished more in her 2 years as Governor than Kennedy has in his many decades in DC?

LMFAO... you're delusional.

[Soul Crusher]

She has accomplished more in her 2 years as Governor than Kennedy has in his many decades in DC?

LMFAO... you're delusional.

Kennedy has accomplished the bankruptcy of this nation with many of his bills. 

240 - you are really high on the kool aide. 

Go look at the 1965 immigration bill Kennedy put forward and what he originally estimated would be the results.  Then, go look at the actual results. 

Same with the Medicare/Medicaid bills, etc etc. 

Kennedy has been a fiscal nightmare on this nation. 

[BM OUT]

Kennedy has accomplished the bankruptcy of this nation with many of his bills. 

240 - you are really high on the kool aide. 

Go look at the 1965 immigration bill Kennedy put forward and what he originally estimated would be the results.  Then, go look at the actual results. 

Same with the Medicare/Medicaid bills, etc etc. 

Kennedy has been a fiscal nightmare on this nation. 

As well as a moral blight on the country.

However,240,just by being voted in as a governor TRUMPS a senator ANYDAY of the week.Incredibly,even with cancer rotting his flesh,Kennedy is still not satisfied with the destruction he has already committed,now he wants to destroy the health care in America as well.The end cant come quickly enough for that drunken,womanising,crappy ass father scumbag.

[Straw Man]

Only if America is a nuclear wasteland, people are living out of duffle bags, I am living across the pond in Capir or Amalfi and looking over the pond at the entertainment value of it all.

Then I would beg for her. Until that happens, she won't be winning the local bingo.

I can't imagine any scenario where I'd want Palin to "get in there" and "shake things up"

she loves the spotlight and I predict her future will be as a Faux News fembot.   

[LurkerNoMore]

2.  She needs to brush up on subjects she is not familiar with.

2012 is 3 years away.  Not 300.  So no help for her there.

[LurkerNoMore]

However,240,just by being voted in as a governor TRUMPS a senator ANYDAY of the week.

According to who?
According to what?
Support this statement.

[Soul Crusher]

2012 is 3 years away.  Not 300.  So no help for her there.

I wish Obama would brush up on first grade math.  

The moron cant add and subtract.  

[LurkerNoMore]

He's added POTUS to his resume and subtracted GOP from Congress.

Good math in my book.

[Straw Man]

I wish Obama would brush up on first grade math.  

The moron cant add and subtract.  

something tells me he's a heck of a lot smarter than you

[Soul Crusher]

He's added POTUS to his resume and subtracted GOP from Congress.

Good math in my book.

Nice try.  This dreamer has BORROWER and SPENT more money in 200 days than all previous presidents combined.  

In April 2009, the IRS reported revenue was down 40%.  

What does Obama do?  

Promise to spend trillions more with no way to pay for it.  

Brilliant.  

[Soul Crusher]

something tells me he's a heck of a lot smarter than you

Yeah, there is no way I could ever be as convincing a liar as him and convince 53% of the population that spending trillions of dollars we dont have buy borrowing it from the Chinese to bailout failed corporations was a good idea.

You are 100%.  I am definately not that good.   

[Straw Man]

I wish Obama would brush up on first grade math.  

The moron cant add and subtract.  

here you go math whiz:  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html

this article is critical of Obama but also points out the following:

You can think of that roughly $2 trillion swing as coming from four broad categories: the business cycle, President George W. Bush’s policies, policies from the Bush years that are scheduled to expire but that Mr. Obama has chosen to extend, and new policies proposed by Mr. Obama.

The first category — the business cycle — accounts for 37 percent of the $2 trillion swing. It’s a reflection of the fact that both the 2001 recession and the current one reduced tax revenue, required more spending on safety-net programs and changed economists’ assumptions about how much in taxes the government would collect in future years.

About 33 percent of the swing stems from new legislation signed by Mr. Bush. That legislation, like his tax cuts and the Medicare prescription drug benefit, not only continue to cost the government but have also increased interest payments on the national debt.

Mr. Obama’s main contribution to the deficit is his extension of several Bush policies, like the Iraq war and tax cuts for households making less than $250,000. Such policies — together with the Wall Street bailout, which was signed by Mr. Bush and supported by Mr. Obama — account for 20 percent of the swing.

About 7 percent comes from the stimulus bill that Mr. Obama signed in February. And only 3 percent comes from Mr. Obama’s agenda on health care, education, energy and other areas.

[Soul Crusher]

Either way, that is why he was elected in the first place, to fix things, not make them worse. 

The bottom line is that we owe 9 trillion dollars and are still borrowing from the chinese to finance our govt.  This is not only unsustainable, but leading us to fiscal disaster. 

Even Europe, the Chinese, and the Russians know it. 

They have been down the path Obama is going and know the results.  Disaster. 

You cant print countless more dollars without having it backed by anything.