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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2009, 09:41:49 AM »
Either way, that is why he was elected in the first place, to fix things, not make them worse. 


And yet... you harp on and harp on when he hasn't been in the office 6 months.  Perhaps you have an overnight solution to this mess?  Is that it?  So let's hear it.

Since you can't do anything but whine about anything he does, let's hear your immediate solution.  What is it?  I expect something to solve the nation's problems before this summer.  What's the answer?  Hmmmmm?   

Instead of whining more about it and making excuses about "oh.... this will be worse....  that will do nothing.... look at this..." let's just hear YOUR answer to this.  So bring it on.

I predict you will just post further bullshit, whinings, and nothings.  You have no solution.  But yet you criticize the man for at least TRYING something?  Time to shit or get off the pot. 

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2009, 09:49:25 AM »
And yet... you harp on and harp on when he hasn't been in the office 6 months.  Perhaps you have an overnight solution to this mess?  Is that it?  So let's hear it.

Since you can't do anything but whine about anything he does, let's hear your immediate solution.  What is it?  I expect something to solve the nation's problems before this summer.  What's the answer?  Hmmmmm?   

Instead of whining more about it and making excuses about "oh.... this will be worse....  that will do nothing.... look at this..." let's just hear YOUR answer to this.  So bring it on.

I predict you will just post further bullshit, whinings, and nothings.  You have no solution.  But yet you criticize the man for at least TRYING something?  Time to shit or get off the pot. 

Maybe this will help you understand this -

When a patient (USA) is bleeding (Money, Revenue, etc) on the table from a stab wound (Bursting of the Housing Bubble, Deficits, National Debt) what do you do?

1.  Try to stop the bleeding (Cut spending, balance budget, reduce anti-business regulations and taxes)?

or

2.  Make the gash even wider (Raise taxes, spend more phoney money, start more govt programs with no moey to pay for it)?
 

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Does that make sense to you???

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2009, 09:55:41 AM »
If a patient is going to require surgery to structure the wound, seal off any severed arteries, encapsulate any vital tissue from further damage... then guess what?  You are going to have to cut into them and create a bigger wound or a seperate one in order to SAVE THEIR LIFE.  But you want to stick a bandaid on it and send them home with internal bleeding to die anyway?  Niceeee!! 

Now is there any other analogy that  you want me to blow up in your face?  Did that help you UNDERSTAND?

If not, I am still waiting to here your immediate solution.  What is it? 

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2009, 10:02:26 AM »
If a patient is going to require surgery to structure the wound, seal off any severed arteries, encapsulate any vital tissue from further damage... then guess what?  You are going to have to cut into them and create a bigger wound or a seperate one in order to SAVE THEIR LIFE.  But you want to stick a bandaid on it and send them home with internal bleeding to die anyway?  Niceeee!! 

Now is there any other analogy that  you want me to blow up in your face?  Did that help you UNDERSTAND?

If not, I am still waiting to here your immediate solution.  What is it? 


There is no immediate solution to this since it took decades to get where we are now. 

However, we are making the matters far worse now by doing exactly what got us into this mess, but even worse. 

We are spending money we dont have by borrowing it from China to finance the govt and consumption.  Do you get that????

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2009, 10:08:48 AM »
If a patient is going to require surgery to structure the wound, seal off any severed arteries, encapsulate any vital tissue from further damage... then guess what?  You are going to have to cut into them and create a bigger wound or a seperate one in order to SAVE THEIR LIFE.  But you want to stick a bandaid on it and send them home with internal bleeding to die anyway?  Niceeee!! 

Now is there any other analogy that  you want me to blow up in your face?  Did that help you UNDERSTAND?

If not, I am still waiting to here your immediate solution.  What is it? 

Ok,how about this,a one year elimination of all corporate and personal income taxes.A one year elimination of capitol gains taxes.Elimination of the education department,DEA,TOBACO AND FIREARMS,IRS and more.A one year freeze on ALL government hiring.A one year freeze on ANY increases in ANY government program.Bring ALL our troops home from everywhere and close down our military camps all over the world and put the troops on the border to COMPLETELY shut them down.Elimination of any and ALL aid to illegals,including free schools,health care,food stamps,welfare,housing.No more money to Isreal or any other country.Taking the money from the stupid stimulous and ACTUALLY rebuild the roads and infastructure even if it means paying private companies to do it.Legalise all drugs,let the drug offenders out of prison and keep the prisons for violent offenders.A cap on ALL lawsuits.No more bailouts,get out of the STUPID GM and Chrysler deals.

There ,is that enough?

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2009, 10:26:17 AM »

There is no immediate solution to this since it took decades to get where we are now. 

However, we are making the matters far worse now by doing exactly what got us into this mess, but even worse. 

We are spending money we dont have by borrowing it from China to finance the govt and consumption.  Do you get that????


you should probably get out while you can

why don't you move to China

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2009, 10:30:07 AM »
you should probably get out while you can

why don't you move to China

On a serious note, just look at what China is doing and they are more business friendly than we are.   

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2009, 10:49:11 AM »
What is Palin's position on Internet integrity rights?

This issue needs to be put right on top on the daily agenda right now.

All the scumbag media corps tries to bury it because they also own the record companies.

We need to keep pushing this issue. >:(

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2009, 11:36:33 AM »

There is no immediate solution to this since it took decades to get where we are now. 


Then S...T....F...U... with your ceaseless whining and complaining about "Oh... Barry this... boohoohoo... Barry that.... boohoohoo"

You are expecting him to solve the GOP mess of 8 years in 6 months?   ::)  And you just admit that you are aware there is "no immediate solution" and yet you STILL whine and gnash your teeth?

Good job.  You have managed to place both feet in your mouth.

Do you get THAT?   ::)

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2009, 12:18:50 PM »
On a serious note, just look at what China is doing and they are more business friendly than we are.   

seriously - you should move there.

i'm sure you'll love the freedom of speech and other benefits of living in a Communist country

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2009, 01:06:09 PM »
if palin runs and wins...i'm moving to Europe..



it'll be proof positive that the country has gone to shit
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2009, 01:10:44 PM »
if palin runs and wins...i'm moving to Europe..



it'll be proof positive that the country has gone to shit

The country has gone to shit.We elected a community organiser with ZERO expierance who hung around racists and radicals his whole life and is now going to seek his revenge on those that have done well in this country.A man whos entire existance is wrapped around equaling the playing field for idiots and failures,even if it means stealing from those that have to do it.If your waiting to move,dont bother,now is the time,we have put Rev. Wright in the white house.

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2009, 01:19:12 PM »
The country has gone to shit.We elected a community organiser with ZERO expierance who hung around racists and radicals his whole life and is now going to seek his revenge on those that have done well in this country.A man whos entire existance is wrapped around equaling the playing field for idiots and failures,even if it means stealing from those that have to do it.If your waiting to move,dont bother,now is the time,we have put Rev. Wright in the white house.
at least he's not an ex cokehead
at least he's not responsible for sinking trillions of $ into a war ad putting the economy into a shithole (if ya dip heavily int your bank account with abandon..you're gonna suffer..simple)
Equalling the playing field for idiots...riiight..the "no dumbfuck left behind was Obama's idea"?  :-\

as bad as Obama might sound..its a step up from Bush...when he talks ..people pay attention...

when bush ws president...certain parts of te world..if ya mentioned you were American...it'd get you killed..and NOt all these places were muslim countries...Obama is changing that

the bush legacy is...he has 7 yrs 4 months to get Osama...HE FAILED!
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2009, 01:23:58 PM »
at least he's not an ex cokehead
at least he's not responsible for sinking trillions of $ into a war ad putting the economy into a shithole (if ya dip heavily int your bank account with abandon..you're gonna suffer..simple)
Equalling the playing field for idiots...riiight..the "no dumbfuck left behind was Obama's idea"?  :-\

as bad as Obama might sound..its a step up from Bush...when he talks ..people pay attention...

when bush ws president...certain parts of te world..if ya mentioned you were American...it'd get you killed..and NOt all these places were muslim countries...Obama is changing that

the bush legacy is...he has 7 yrs 4 months to get Osama...HE FAILED!

Ummm Obama BY HIS OWN ADMISSION is a former coke head.It was in his bok you might want to read it.

The only thing Obama is changing is that he wants to punnish those that work hard and make money and give it to pieces of shit who dont do a god dam thing.Just look at the GM deal.A bailout for scumbag UAW and fucked the investors out of their money.

Obama sucks,his stimulous plan has failed.He will be the biggest failure in the history of the country.You will be the first to cry when your health care benefits are taxed,a value added tax comes in,cap and trade comes in.When you cant pay your bills you will still be looking at that blue mouthed idiot to bail you out.

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2009, 01:29:11 PM »
Obama's still miles and miles better than Palin.

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2009, 01:34:03 PM »

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Ummm Obama BY HIS OWN ADMISSION is a former coke head.It was in his bok you might want to read it.
well..some people have character and own up and sme have to be caught...like bush  :-\

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The only thing Obama is changing is that he wants to punnish those that work hard and make money and give it to pieces of shit who dont do a god dam thing.
you make over 250k/yr?  unless you r..quit whining


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Obama sucks,his stimulous plan has failed.He will be the biggest failure in the history of the country.
  just like the bush stimulus plan failed?  besides..he just got started...

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You will be the first to cry when your health care benefits are taxed,a value added tax comes in,cap and trade comes in.When you cant pay your bills you will still be looking at that blue mouthed idiot to bail you out.

dont worry..my family actually makes more then 250k/yr...we'll be fine...and we aren't complaining...you think this bush created recession is gonna end by waving a magic wand...yall elected the dumbfuck in....now pay the price  ;)
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2009, 01:37:26 PM »
Please change your name to ToxicTruth.

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2009, 01:39:55 PM »
Please change your name to ToxicTruth.

 8)

the repub..errr the REALLY white folks also known as racially incluned r just pissed a black guy is in office...a black guy with muslim ties none the less...

let em whine...thats ALL they can do now  ;D
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2009, 01:50:48 PM »
Maybe this will help you understand this -

When a patient (USA) is bleeding (Money, Revenue, etc) on the table from a stab wound (Bursting of the Housing Bubble, Deficits, National Debt) what do you do?
1.  Try to stop the bleeding (Cut spending, balance budget, reduce anti-business regulations and taxes)?
or
2.  Make the gash even wider (Raise taxes, spend more phoney money, start more govt programs with no moey to pay for it)?
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Does that make sense to you???

the patient isn't bleeding in this case...he's been ASSRAPED...continuously for 8 straight yrs
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2009, 01:52:59 PM »
the repub..errr the REALLY white folks also known as racially incluned r just pissed a black guy is in office...a black guy with muslim ties none the less...

let em whine...thats ALL they can do now  ;D

toxic when the Carbon taxes comes, everyone will be paying.
Also there are more millionaires leaving your state then any other
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/28/millionaires-row/

By they way whites voted in Obama.
It wasn't a race thing.
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2009, 02:26:28 PM »

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toxic when the Carbon taxes comes, everyone will be paying.
  ok good...the repbs claim to be friends to america...now time to prove it...a better climate is better for America
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Also there are more millionaires leaving your state then any other
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/28/millionaires-row/
cause MD is turning into a ghetto...its new name will be "afro-indo-vietnam"  :-\

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By they way whites voted in Obama.
It wasn't a race thing.

for a lot of whites...it ws
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2009, 02:33:13 PM »
well..some people have character and own up and sme have to be caught...like bush  :-\

Bush has admitted to his previous habits. If  President Obama's owning to his past is a good thing, then so is that of President Bush.

you make over 250k/yr?  unless you r..quit whining

Billy knows, as do a lot of Americans that the 250K number isn't going to work. As 333386 just posted elsewhere, it's already been LOWERED to $200K. As Obama continues to realize that his "tax the rich" routine won't get the job done, it's only a matter of time, before middle-class America gets pinched.


  just like the bush stimulus plan failed?  besides..he just got started...

So, Obama stimulus good? Bush stimulus bad? That doesn't quite work. Either both stimulus plan worked or both of them stink.


dont worry..my family actually makes more then 250k/yr...we'll be fine...and we aren't complaining...you think this bush created recession is gonna end by waving a magic wand...yall elected the dumbfuck in....now pay the price  ;)

But, other families who do make 250K are complaining. And many of those who don't will be, because they know it's just a matter of time, until the tax hikes hit them.

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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2009, 02:52:27 PM »

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Bush has admitted to his previous habits. If  President Obama's owning to his past is a good thing, then so is that of President Bush.
really..he did it during his presidency?

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Billy knows, as do a lot of Americans that the 250K number isn't going to work. As 333386 just posted elsewhere, it's already been LOWERED to $200K. As Obama continues to realize that his "tax the rich" routine won't get the job done, it's only a matter of time, before middle-class America gets pinched.

didn't middle-class America get royally fucked during the bush era?  a pinch dosen't seem all that bad...besides...Obama didn't cause the problem...good ole bush did...Obama is trying to clean up the mess left by bush...if the repbs have better ideas....lets hear em


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So, Obama stimulus good? Bush stimulus bad? That doesn't quite work. Either both stimulus plan worked or both of them stink.
Actions r judged by intentions...Bush's intentions were to help his dismal ratings...Obamas rating r already high...he might actually believe this might help people ;)

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But, other families who do make 250K are complaining. And many of those who don't will be, because they know it's just a matter of time, until the tax hikes hit them.
  well the country should thought about that before allowing trillions to be spent on a bullshit war...that $ has GOT TO BE REPLACED from somewhere...it dosen't grow on trees...its actually quite satysfying to me to see the people suffering the most right now r the ones that voted bush in 2ice! 8)  political darwanism
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2009, 02:55:40 PM »
its a fucking shame that republicans will wave the national pride flag high and bright and call anyone that doesn't agree a terrorist sympathiser till...it effects their wallets...

then all bets r off :-\

Patriotic my ass
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Re: If Palin chooses to run in 2012...
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2009, 02:56:20 PM »
  ok good...the repbs claim to be friends to america...now time to prove it...a better climate is better for Americacause MD is turning into a ghetto...its new name will be "afro-indo-vietnam"  :-\

for a lot of whites...it ws

I wouldn't use the term lots for some whites it was an issue.

Just like for some blacks it was an issue.

Its time to move past this racial crap.

For your interest Carbon taxes have not cut emissions in Europe, people just pay more.
http://www.eea.europa.eu/pressroom/newsreleases/2009-greenhouse-inventory-report
Falling emissions since 2005 have largely resulted from the lower use of fossil fuels (particularly oil and gas) in households and services — these sectors, not covered by the EU Emission Trading System (ETS), are among the largest sources of GHG emissions in the EU. Warmer weather and higher fuel prices were the primary causes for the drop in emissions in 2006–2007, with most of the decrease occurring in households — particularly in Germany.

Welcoming the reductions, Professor Jacqueline McGlade, EEA Executive Director, stressed that EU Member States need to take positive steps to sustain progress in coming years.

"The economic stimulus packages that Governments are currently adopting represent a crucial opportunity to address the climate crisis and the financial crisis simultaneously", Professor McGlade said. "A strong Copenhagen agreement later this year would drive forward investments vital to our future prosperity."
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