Author Topic: The TRUE natural limit? (Read 35930 times)

liberalismo · « **on:** June 20, 2009, 07:50:20 PM »

I'm always hearing about different opinions of what can be achieved naturally. Some people claim very high limits of musculature and some people claim that even people who aren't heavier than 170lbs with a 6 pack must be using steroids.

So people...Post pictures of YOUR opinions of what could be naturally achieved with GOOD genetics, EXTREME dedication, YEARS of weight training, PERFECT diet.

Even if the people in the pictures aren't natural...They can still be used as an example of what can be achieved naturally in your opinion.

Please don't post pictures of skinny people or pictures of massive pro-bodybuilders to be funny. (I know people will be dumb and do this anyway).

Here is my opinion on what can be done naturally if everything is done right and the person dedicates a lot lives to building this physique.

clued-up · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2009, 07:57:35 PM »

this guy is not natural.

liberalismo · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:04:00 PM »

Quote from: james001 on June 20, 2009, 07:57:35 PM

this guy is not natural.

He is, You were verbally spanked in previous threads about this topic. Even the guy himself came and posted on this site to back himself up, as well as several people who know him personally. But I guess some people never learn...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=264309.0

But notice I said that people can post pictures of people who aren't natural just as example of the natural limit. I have no desire to rehash old arguments about who is or isn't natural. ALL of your arguments are rooted in your own personal inadequacies and insecurities, claiming that superior bodybuilders to yourself must use steroids since you used to get where you are, so you can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

Post a picture of YOUR idea of what can be achieved naturally, the LIMIT.

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:08:48 PM »

You are retarded as the day is long if you for one minute believe the douche in the picture is natural, not even close.

clued-up · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:24:22 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on June 20, 2009, 08:04:00 PM

Post a picture of YOUR idea of what can be achieved naturally, the LIMIT.

my idea? well, what for? forget about ideas.. we should all be worried about our own physiques.. in reality.

looking at anyone else is pointless.. what you see in the mirror is all that matters.

so, why don’t you simply post a picture of yourself? you’re really good at posting pictures of other (drug using) bodybuilders.. who you proclaim (falsely, how could you really know?) to be natural.

that means fuck all – put your money where your mouth is, post a picture of yourself.

Jeffro · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:28:33 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on June 20, 2009, 08:04:00 PM

He is, You were verbally spanked in previous threads about this topic. Even the guy himself came and posted on this site to back himself up, as well as several people who know him personally. But I guess some people never learn...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=264309.0

But notice I said that people can post pictures of people who aren't natural just as example of the natural limit. I have no desire to rehash old arguments about who is or isn't natural. ALL of your arguments are rooted in your own personal inadequacies and insecurities, claiming that superior bodybuilders to yourself must use steroids since you used to get where you are, so you can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

Post a picture of YOUR idea of what can be achieved naturally, the LIMIT.

There's no way in hell that guy achieved his physique naturally. But hey, whatever motivates you to keep training, "delusionalismo."

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:35:15 PM »

Quote from: Jeffro on June 20, 2009, 08:28:33 PM

There's no way in hell that guy achieved his physique naturally. But hey, whatever motivates you to keep training, "delusionalismo."

I can't even fathom that this guy thinks this fella is natural. Any one who has been in a gym setting for any appreciable amount of time should know better.

CalvinH · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:35:58 PM »

Juiced.

dustin · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:36:25 PM »

If that were natural, I would denounce AAS and any other PED. I wouldn't even use creatine or protein powder.. but alas, that is so fucking far from natural it's not even worth humoring as a fairytale.

You my friend are fucking retarded. You are on a downward spiral of retardation to be more precise.

Jeffro · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:37:08 PM »

Quote from: thelamefalsehood on June 20, 2009, 08:35:15 PM

I can't even fathom that this guy thinks this fella is natural. Any one who has been in a gym setting for any appreciable amount of time should know better.

I agree bro, the naivety of some people is just ridiculous.

wavelength · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:41:07 PM »

there is no way to tell if someone who claims to be natural really is other than being that person

Jeffro · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:43:51 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on June 20, 2009, 08:41:07 PM

there is no way to tell if someone who claims to be natural really is other than being that person

You don't hold that type of mass while also being shredded without some kind of "assistance."

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #12 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:45:59 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on June 20, 2009, 08:41:07 PM

there is no way to tell if someone who claims to be natural really is other than being that person

Very true, but sometimes you have to use a little common sense. Very, very hard to be that big and that lean and still natural all at once. Natural these days though is test prop, winni and var.

wavelength · « **Reply #13 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:47:25 PM »

Quote from: Jeffro on June 20, 2009, 08:43:51 PM

You don't hold that type of mass while being shredded without some kind of "assistance."

Yeah but we still can't know for sure. If he is natural, this kind of physique would have absolutely nothing to do with dedication or being "hard core" though. It would solely be based on genetics.

Jeffro · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:51:30 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on June 20, 2009, 08:47:25 PM

Yeah but we still can't know for sure. If he is natural, this kind of physique would have absolutely nothing to do with dedication or being "hard core" though. It would solely be based on genetics.

He must have some of the best genetics ever then.

wavelength · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:54:39 PM »

Quote from: Jeffro on June 20, 2009, 08:51:30 PM

He must have some of the best genetics ever then.

If he's not a liar, yes. This would be my example BTW:

Can't say for sure if he's natural of course, but this is believable to me.

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:56:05 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on June 20, 2009, 08:54:39 PM

If he's not a liar, yes. This would be my example BTW:

Can't say for sure if he's natural of course, but this is believable to me.

I would buy that this dude is legit natural. Just lean and smallish with good shape. Not 40 extra pounds like the first guy posted.

wavelength · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:00:59 PM »

Quote from: thelamefalsehood on June 20, 2009, 08:56:05 PM

I would buy that this dude is legit natural. Just lean and smallish with good shape. Not 40 extra pounds like the first guy posted.

Yeah, this guy is 5'9", 156lbs, 7% body fat.

dustin · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:09:57 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on June 20, 2009, 08:54:39 PM

If he's not a liar, yes. This would be my example BTW:

Can't say for sure if he's natural of course, but this is believable to me.

I remember chatting with this guy. I definitely think he's natural. He may have used 1AD or m1t unknowingly like many others, but I doubt it... I think he's a true lifetime natural. I would like to look like this guy with just a little more thickness. He looks absolutely amazing.

Stavios · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:17:37 PM »

Quote from: james001 on June 20, 2009, 07:57:35 PM

this guy is not natural.

as natural as my cock

Stavios · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:19:15 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on June 20, 2009, 09:00:59 PM

Yeah, this guy is 5'9", 156lbs, 7% body fat.

these dudes all look way bigger and more impressive because of the fucking lighting they use

I am sure he looks super small in person from those numbers

mitchyboy · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:23:17 PM »

Is that dudes name Braun, or something like that?

jtsunami · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:48:59 PM »

Quote from: mitchyboy on June 20, 2009, 09:23:17 PM

Is that dudes name Braun, or something like that?

no PJ is much cuter, the dude pictured by thread starter is no where near natural what a joke this shit is.

jt

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:02:39 PM »

Bout as natural as a Muslim at a Klan Rally!

dyslexic · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:15:09 PM »

He may have been natural before Photoshopping....

Like this:

Or this:

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