Author Topic: Andriol ? (Read 7580 times)

jayfromeurope · « **on:** June 24, 2009, 03:04:37 AM »

Hi all,

I just wanna know what do you think about andriol ? How the best way to use it ?

I did some reaserch about it but I would like to have your opinions.

Thanks all.

jayfromeurope · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2009, 03:08:29 AM »

Btw it's call Andriol Testocaps and it's Human grade.

Thanks

R.A.M. · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2009, 08:45:23 AM »

EXPENSIVE, AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE A SHITLOAD OF PILLS TO GET RESULTS, I MAYBE WRONG THOUGH.

shrek · « **Reply #3 on:** June 24, 2009, 09:36:05 PM »

Quote from: R.A.M. on June 24, 2009, 08:45:23 AM

EXPENSIVE, AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE A SHITLOAD OF PILLS TO GET RESULTS, I MAYBE WRONG THOUGH.

no you are correct it is very expensive but if jay can score it from his ole lady i would take them like candy......... capt EQ is a fan of them you should chit chat with him about it

dexterJ · « **Reply #4 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:59:01 PM »

one time Milos Sarcev talk they are g2g for cycle

jayfromeurope · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2009, 01:31:09 AM »

Quote from: shrek on June 24, 2009, 09:36:05 PM

no you are correct it is very expensive but if jay can score it from his ole lady i would take them like candy......... capt EQ is a fan of them you should chit chat with him about it

Yes my GF gave it to me 3 pack if andriol testocaps. So I ll try it.

Thanks

Luolamies · « **Reply #6 on:** June 25, 2009, 05:06:42 AM »

Friend of mine is on deca and andriol and is getting good results and hasn't seen any sides, except some zits.

They are really expensive though...

R.A.M. · « **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2009, 05:42:38 AM »

Yeah I'd love to try it..... let us know how it goes!!!

jayfromeurope · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2009, 09:11:33 AM »

Ok, So I started today with 4 andriol testocaps in the morning with food and 3 in the evenning with food.

I don't know if I'm crazy or it's the placebo effect but today at work I was really aware and very aggresive. Maybe it's just me

I don't know, I'll run andriol for 8 weeks or more and I'll keep you updates. My GF told me that the new one, the one I have is quiet well absord not as the old one. She called the organon labs in my country and they told her that this new formul work great and people use it for TRT with only 2 caps or 3 caps a day !!!

Thanks

shrek · « **Reply #9 on:** June 25, 2009, 06:55:33 PM »

what mg are they? keep in mind since they are an oral test that the half life is small and you have to eat a shit load of them

jayfromeurope · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2009, 01:26:38 AM »

40 mg but I think this new foruml last longer than the older. I take 280mg a day.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2009, 04:11:25 AM »

Quote from: jayfromeurope on June 25, 2009, 09:11:33 AM

My GF told me that the new one, the one I have is quiet well absord not as the old one. She called the organon labs in my country and they told her that this new formul work great and people use it for TRT with only 2 caps or 3 caps a day !!!

Thanks

As far as I can see Testocaps is the exact same formula with the exact same pharmacokinetics as the "old" Andriol. Same dosage is suggested as for the old one. See prescribing info.

Edit: Andriol is T Undecanoate in oleic acid. Testocaps is in castor oil. But can't find any data that Testocaps is better absorbed and the dosage used is the same for both.

jayfromeurope · « **Reply #12 on:** June 26, 2009, 06:02:15 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on June 26, 2009, 04:11:25 AM

As far as I can see Testocaps is the exact same formula with the exact same pharmacokinetics as the "old" Andriol. Same dosage is suggested as for the old one. See prescribing info.

Edit: Andriol is T Undecanoate in oleic acid. Testocaps is in castor oil. But can't find any data that Testocaps is better absorbed and the dosage used is the same for both.

Yes you are right. But that's what they said to my GF. I'm on my second day and I feel really good may be it's just me lol.

I'll keep you update.

dexterJ · « **Reply #13 on:** June 26, 2009, 07:35:45 AM »

andriol is also great to get gyno

jayfromeurope · « **Reply #14 on:** June 26, 2009, 08:20:34 AM »

Quote from: dexterJ on June 26, 2009, 07:35:45 AM

andriol is also great to get gyno

I don't care, I don't get gyno, even with heavy cycle base test I dont get gyno.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #15 on:** June 26, 2009, 02:07:34 PM »

Quote from: jayfromeurope on June 26, 2009, 06:02:15 AM

Yes you are right. But that's what they said to my GF. I'm on my second day and I feel really good may be it's just me lol.

I'll keep you update.

I don't see how you would notice much at all from Andriol since you have done heavy injectable test cycles. Even for HRT it's notoriously poorly absorbed. Otherwise it would be used way more by competent HRT docs. Popping a couple of pills twice daily is much less a hassle than injecting or rubbing your body with creams.

Quote from: dexterJ on June 26, 2009, 07:35:45 AM

andriol is also great to get gyno

Quote from: jayfromeurope on June 26, 2009, 08:20:34 AM

I don't care, I don't get gyno, even with heavy cycle base test I dont get gyno.

Supposedly there is more DHT conversion with Andriol so if that's true I'd expect the opposite.

dexterJ · « **Reply #16 on:** June 26, 2009, 02:17:43 PM »

you happy man..i need to do surgery now after summer..an then..height dosages,LOL

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #17 on:** June 26, 2009, 02:25:38 PM »

Quote from: dexterJ on June 26, 2009, 02:17:43 PM

you happy man..i need to do surgery now after summer..an then..height dosages,LOL

You did JUST Andriol and it gave you gyno? Let's hear the whole stack.

dexterJ · « **Reply #18 on:** June 26, 2009, 02:28:07 PM »

no-....i am into AAS for long time..did over 15cycle...got milos sarcev cycles,dave palumbo cycles,,etc

spirospros · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2009, 02:22:38 AM »

its very mild i dont suggest it for males waste of money

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2009, 02:49:57 AM »

You guys are all way off and wrong on the Andriol, it's great stuff, I have extensive experience with it in several cycles..it's a great alternative to eod prop shots. They changed the formulation about 2 years ago, All you guys are still reading about the poorly absorbed Andriol caps. The new ones absorb must better, though MUST BE TAKEN WITH FOOD. I am using 3 a day and feel fucking amazing on them, don't expect them to hit you like Sust or Test E , but to include in a nice cutter summer cycle to keep your sex drive good, they are fucking GREAT, legit human grade Organon. I take mine 3x a day split up into morning, lunch and dinner.

Make sure to take it with food, you will be happy with the results. It even says on top of the box that they used to have a poor absorption rate so Organon modified the formula for them. I love them, esp. since my health insurance covers them and I get a box of 120 caps for about $20

Thanks again to my great Doctor!

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:26:09 AM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on June 27, 2009, 02:49:57 AM

It even says on top of the box that they used to have a poor absorption rate so Organon modified the formula for them.

Can you transcribe here what it says exactly? Sounds strange to me, the Andriol site doesn't mention anything about this from what I could see. And the dosage recommendation is still the exact same, plus studies I posted showed the Testocaps had the same, actually slightly worse, bioavailability.

From what I gather the change in formulation was due to oleic acid going rancid unless protected from heat and light (why it had to be refrigerated). The new formula is more stable.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:38:42 AM »

Quote

Frank-Michael Köhn1 Contact Information and Wolf-Bernhard Schill2
(1) Department of Dermatology and Allergology, Technical University, Biedersteiner Str. 29, 80802 Munich, Germany
(2) Center of Dermatology and Andrology, Justus Liebig University, Giessen, Germany

Received: 6 October 2003 Accepted: 6 October 2003 Published online: 25 October 2003
Abstract

Testosterone undecanoate has been available on the market for more than 20 years. This testosterone ester is used worldwide for oral treatment of male hypogonadism. So far, testosterone undecanoate has been dissolved in oleic acid, leading to inconvenient storage conditions. It will now be available in a new formulation with castor oil and propylene glycol laurate instead of oleic acid, thus improving storage conditions markedly (stable at room temperature for approximately 3 years). Pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies have demonstrated bioequivalence of the old and the new formulation of testosterone undecanoate. Therefore, the results of studies that were performed with the old formulation can be transferred to the clinical use of the new formulation. Controlled studies have shown its efficacy in the treatment of symptoms associated with reduced serum testosterone levels. In these cases testosterone undecanoate improves bone mineral density, quality of life, muscle mass, libido and mood. Further studies will help evaluate the efficacy and safety of the new formulation in the treatment of elderly men with late-onset hypogonadism.

Exactly same, only more stable.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #23 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:55:43 AM »

In fact, if Test Enanthate is cheaper for you than Andriol you could actually drink that too and get similar results - if you can't inject for some reason.

Oral Test E study

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2664381

shrek · « **Reply #24 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:58:28 PM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on June 27, 2009, 02:49:57 AM

You guys are all way off and wrong on the Andriol, it's great stuff, I have extensive experience with it in several cycles..it's a great alternative to eod prop shots. They changed the formulation about 2 years ago, All you guys are still reading about the poorly absorbed Andriol caps. The new ones absorb must better, though MUST BE TAKEN WITH FOOD. I am using 3 a day and feel fucking amazing on them, don't expect them to hit you like Sust or Test E , but to include in a nice cutter summer cycle to keep your sex drive good, they are fucking GREAT, legit human grade Organon. I take mine 3x a day split up into morning, lunch and dinner.

Make sure to take it with food, you will be happy with the results. It even says on top of the box that they used to have a poor absorption rate so Organon modified the formula for them. I love them, esp. since my health insurance covers them and I get a box of 120 caps for about $20

Thanks again to my great Doctor!

come on i aint way off......... i would love to eat those all day long