Kai Green was great at the 2009 Arnold!

[Wiggs]

Let's talk about how great Kai really was at the Arnold and how great he will be at the O.  I can't wait for his posing routine at the O.

He and Dex will be the most conditioned men on stage. He obviously isn't without faults.  Wide waist and his chest could be better but that's about it. Team Kai!

[MB_722]

since when was this a bodybuilding forum

[Wiggs]

since when was this a bodybuilding forum

lol...I know really.

[wavelength]

Aren't you supposed to be huge and ripped by now wiggs, what happened?

[Deicide]

Let's talk about how great Kai really was at the Arnold and how great he will be at the O.  I can't wait for his posing routine at the O.

He and Dex will be the most conditioned men on stage.
He obviously isn't without faults.  Wide waist and his chest could be better but that's about it.
Team Kai!

Gay, all the way.

[chaos]

Let's talk about how great Kai really was at the Arnold and how great he will be at the O.  I can't wait for his posing routine at the O.

He and Dex will be the most conditioned men on stage.
He obviously isn't without faults.  Wide waist and his chest could be better but that's about it.
Team Kai!

Outed.

[Wiggs]

Aren't you supposed to be huge and ripped by now wiggs, what happened?

I wasn't supposed to be huge just ripped.  I'm at 235. from 272 (Feb 09).  Because of work my priorities switched.  Now that I'm compfy with my schedule, I've been in the gym again for two weeks.  My weight didn't change during the time off on the drugs or dieting cause I didn't go crazy.  I think I needed the break.  My body is responding well.  I obvously won't meet my deadline of July 15th (my 30th b-day) but I'm happy in that I've gotten this far.  My next big goal is hitting two 215.  The drugs I've taken have been t-3, clen and eca for 9 weeks. And Winny at 50mg for four weeks. I've off everything for a month and will go with totally natural until I want to bump up the fat burning process again.

I will probably settle at 205 and decide whether or not I want to add QUALITY size.  It feels great not to be a tub of lard. 

Anywho, enough about me.  Lets talk about Kai!

[lax]

Here it is:

If Kai would show up at the Olympia with a nice, short haircut (Minus that lump of shit on his head), minus the body piercings and nose rings and what not, cleanly shaved face, and posed without all the gay movements and innuendos, he MIGHT have a chance to win the whole thing.

With him the way he comes across now, keep dreaming...it'll never, ever happen.

[Wiggs]

Here it is:

If Kai would show up at the Olympia with a nice, short haircut (Minus that lump of shit on his head), minus the body piercings and nose rings and what not, cleanly shaved face, and posed without all the gay movements and innuendos, he MIGHT have a chance to win the whole thing.

With him the way he comes across now, keep dreaming...it'll never, ever happen.

He won the Arnold, the 2nd biggest show so anything can happen.  If you look that good, you will not be denied.  I'd like to see him add a little more back thickness, increase the thickness of his chest, watch his waist, come a little more dry (if that's even possible) and not do any upsided down butt twitch.

[lax]

He won the Arnold, the 2nd biggest show so anything can happen.  If you look that good, you will not be denied.  I'd like to see him add a little more back thickness, increase the thickness of his chest, watch his waist, come a little more dry (if that's even possible) and not do any upsided down butt twitch.

sure
he is nearly unbeatable
but what I outlined stand...if he does nlot make those changes...he will not win

[G o a t b o y]

but what I outlined stand...if he does nlot make those changes...he will not win

Exactly.  The top 5 are going to be so close, that it WILL come down to intangibles like "who is the best representative for bodybuilding".  That leaves Kai out.  Probably Victor and our current Mr O as well.  That leaves Jay and Phil.  Smart $ says one of them takes it, unless they both show up looking like shit.

[Wiggs]

Exactly.  The top 5 are going to be so close, that it WILL come down to intangibles like "who is the best representative for bodybuilding".  That leaves Kai out.  Probably Victor and our current Mr O as well.  That leaves Jay and Phil.  Smart $ says one of them takes it, unless they both show up looking like shit.

Do you really think they take those into consideration?  If so, why chose Dexter?  He's a wife beater.

[G o a t b o y]

Do you really think they take those into consideration?  If so, why chose Dexter?  He's a wife beater.

Yeah, but he's black, so that's pretty much expected.



   j/k



Last year:  No Victor, No Kai, Jay looked like dogshit, Phil was one less year into it.  They didn't have choices.  This year will be different.

[lax]

Exactly.  The top 5 are going to be so close, that it WILL come down to intangibles like "who is the best representative for bodybuilding".  That leaves Kai out.  Probably Victor and our current Mr O as well.  That leaves Jay and Phil.  Smart $ says one of them takes it, unless they both show up looking like shit.

I am glad someone here understand 'intangibles'

[Wiggs]

Yeah, but he's black, so that's pretty much expected.



   j/k



Last year:  No Victor, No Kai, Jay looked like dogshit, Phil was one less year into it.  They didn't have choices.  This year will be different.

As good as Phil and Kai are I'd find it hard to believe they'd win.  This is Kai's first Olympia.  He'd be the first person to win the Mr. O his first time out...Unless he shrinks his waist 5 inches I don't see it happening as much as I'd like him to win.  I'm still bothered by when Phil is standing relaxed he looks like an NPC athlete.  Yes, he's much better than other years and he makes alot of progess each year but having the width of a 5'6 guy at 5'9 doesn't do his physique any favors. His obliques have a weird look to them but I guess outside that he's good.

I think Jay is the favorite and will more than likely win.  Problem is people keep expecting him to come in looking like 2001 Jay and it will never happen.  I hope Jay fixes his final hours prep.  He doesn't have any flaws except his conditioning.  Wolf has too much to make up but probably the most potential.  Calves still suck and still needs to fill out his lowerback and bring the conditioning he did in 2007.

[Wiggs]

I am glad someone here understand 'intangibles'

They shouldn't be considered.  This is a bodybuilding show, not Ms. America where they consider that stuff.  I really don't think they count that stuff.  Victor wins shows and he's a drug dealer/felon.  Ronnie aint the brightest fella when he speaks.  You'd have to chose a Gunther or someone like him everytime.  I think you're giving intangibles too much credit.

[lax]

They shouldn't be considered.  This is a bodybuilding show, not Ms. America where they consider that stuff.  I really don't think they count that stuff.  Victor wins shows and he's a drug dealer/felon.  Ronnie aint the brightest fella when he speaks.  You'd have to chose a Gunther or someone like him everytime.  I think you're giving intangibles too much credit.

Victor will never win again'
Arnold was thunderously angry when he won the A classic.

Yes, if anyone ever wants to see this become mainstream (which it will not) then character should, indeed, be considered

[Wiggs]

Victor will never win again'
Arnold was thunderously angry when he won the A classic.

Yes, if anyone ever wants to see this become mainstream (which it will not) then character should, indeed, be considered

Why should it count?  They don't count it in other "sports"

[chaos]

Victor will never win again'
Arnold was thunderously angry when he won the A classic.

Yes, if anyone ever wants to see this become mainstream (which it will not) then character should, indeed, be considered

Did he call you and tell you all about it?

[Wiggs]

Did he call you and tell you all about it?

 

[lax]

Why should it count?  They don't count it in other "sports"

well
apparently
many baseball players will not make the HOF because of drugs
Mark Mcguire got only 25% of vote

[England_1]

As good as Phil and Kai are I'd find it hard to believe they'd win.  This is Kai's first Olympia.  He'd be the first person to win the Mr. O his first time out...Unless he shrinks his waist 5 inches I don't see it happening as much as I'd like him to win.  I'm still bothered by when Phil is standing relaxed he looks like an NPC athlete.  Yes, he's much better than other years and he makes alot of progess each year but having the width of a 5'6 guy at 5'9 doesn't do his physique any favors. His obliques have a weird look to them but I guess outside that he's good.

I think Jay is the favorite and will more than likely win.  Problem is people keep expecting him to come in looking like 2001 Jay and it will never happen.  I hope Jay fixes his final hours prep.  He doesn't have any flaws except his conditioning.  Wolf has too much to make up but probably the most potential.  Calves still suck and still needs to fill out his lowerback and bring the conditioning he did in 2007.

Wiggs,

you are a respectable poster, but to say Jay is the favorite is utterly foolish. There's a reason no Mr. O has ever regained the title. Dexter is the favorite, plan and simple.

[Wiggs]

well
apparently
many baseball players will not make the HOF because of drugs
Mark Mcguire got only 25% of vote

True but bodybuilding is so shady and dirty what should be topics should be used to judge their character?
They're all on illegal drugs.  Some do some shady shit some don't...i.e.  Kai broke now law fucking a grapefruit (I can't believe I just typed that ) Victor just got caught I'm sure other pros have sold/sell drugs.  It'd be really hard to come up with a set of things to disqualify people...well with the exception of Titus and Bertil Fox.

[SGT BARNES]

wheeler won the A and never won the O. Same with Kev, Ray etc...

The O is more conservative in judging. I agree thatif kai lost the long hair and toned down the radical posing he has the physique to win.

[Wiggs]

Wiggs,

you are a respectable poster, but to say Jay is the favorite is utterly foolish. There's a reason no Mr. O has ever regained the title. Dexter is the favorite, plan and simple.

The reason I say that is because Jay lost the show, Dex didn't win it.  I'm not a fan of either.  Although I think Jay is an awesome guy.