I met Chet Yorton, when i was about 16, years back with my dad in vegas. He talked about how he was starting a drug tested show, claimed he never took steroids and gave me a 10 minute lecture on why I should never take steroids. He looked pretty big back then..and if he was telling the truth, he was one of the best naturals ever. Of course we all know on this site, no one will believe his development was possible, natural.