Author Topic: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros (Bob Chick Melting Down) (Read 41004 times)

io856 · « **Reply #125 on:** July 17, 2009, 06:53:41 AM »

Why be concerned with "toughness" anyway?

Its not something I even think about...? Does that come with being under 6'? hmmmm

MindSpin · « **Reply #126 on:** July 17, 2009, 06:56:48 AM »

Quote from: Howard on July 16, 2009, 10:04:59 PM

Yes, but could an MMA beat a top pro BB on a pro contest stage in a posedown?
Different sports , different goals.
That is like having a lawyer do an operation on ya instead of an MD or vice versa.
I guess we can send in Lebron James to score the winning goal in a hockey game or have an NHL player post up on Shaq...I will never understand these kind of "comparisons" or need to have bodybuilders fight in MMA.

That's the whole point. What does winning a bodybuilding contest mean? NOTHING! Even if you're Mr. Olympia, you're king of a dying "sport" that, aside from a bunch of horny schmoes, hardly anyone watches.

I would like to say that there is nothing wrong with building the body, for the purpose of enhancing performance, improving health and aesthetics. But, being a 250 juiced up monkey doesn't mean shit. Bodybuilding, as it is today, is a joke.

MindSpin · « **Reply #127 on:** July 17, 2009, 06:58:29 AM »

Quote from: Chick on July 17, 2009, 06:50:05 AM

WOW...a multi-millionaire AND worlds toughest guy.

A getbig original

I didn't know Ron prepared your taxes this year...my bad

Never said I was a tough guy. But, I want to make this bet. We'll give Ron the money to hold and hire an independent accountant to review our income for the last three years. If you made more than me, it's an easy $5k. Let's go.

Chick · « **Reply #128 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:00:45 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 17, 2009, 06:56:48 AM

That's the whole point. What does winning a bodybuilding contest mean? NOTHING! Even if you're Mr. Olympia, you're king of a dying "sport" that, aside from a bunch of horny schmoes, hardly anyone watches.

I would like to say that there is nothing wrong with building the body, for the purpose of enhancing performance, improving health and aesthetics. But, being a 250 juiced up monkey doesn't mean shit. Bodybuilding, as it is today, is a joke.

Whats it mean? Everything if your a competitive BB

You're as clueless as Basile

Time to get off the BB site.....become a mod at GetMMA.com

io856 · « **Reply #129 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:01:21 AM »

"my daddy is better than yours"

"big muscles don't mean anything"

io856 · « **Reply #130 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:08:50 AM »

mindspin...

when you were a muscular guy... are you saying it meant NOTHING to you?

when you commanded respect just by your very appearance everywhere you walked... people looked in awe... the rush, the ego, the pride...

you had conquered your body and achieved a look you were after... a power over self known by few... that feeling of self-efficacy extended itself even into the way you walked and talked... thats confidence... thats an alpha male

jack_ftype · « **Reply #131 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:14:37 AM »

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You are correct. Both MMA & Bodybuilding draw mainly insecure young men. But, those who turn to bodybuilding quickly find that there is no money in it, you have to become a drug dealer just to compete at the local level and after they've built all that useless muscle, they're still not the alpha dog. At least the guys who turn to MMA get to be part of a growing sport and they are able to develop real athletic skills.

great dude, why don't you save us all some braincells and time and go start posting on an MMA board since you have so much respect and admiration for it, the question begs to be asked why you would spend so much time posting at a board dedicated to a hobby that you have no respect for.

MindSpin · « **Reply #132 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:41:23 AM »

Quote from: io856 on July 17, 2009, 07:08:50 AM

mindspin...

when you were a muscular guy... are you saying it meant NOTHING to you?

when you commanded respect just by your very appearance everywhere you walked... people looked in awe... the rush, the ego, the pride...

you had conquered your body and achieved a look you were after... a power over self known by few... that feeling of self-efficacy extended itself even into the way you walked and talked... thats confidence... thats an alpha male

I went through the insecure phase of my life in my early 20s and thought bbing was the answer. The biggest I ever got was around 230lbs with 8-10%BF. Puny by bodybuilding standards but huge to the average person. The only people that were impressed were horny schmoes and impressionable up & comers who wanted to be the next Mr. O. Everyone else had a negative reaction to it. Just walking down the beach I would hear regular comments about steroids. Most girls thought I was too big and were grossed out. Being big and winning bodybuilding shows is not at all what I thought it would be. Once I took it as far as I could, I moved on. The amount of effort that goes into being big & shredded can be put to much more fruitful use and that's what I did. Guys like Chick make me laugh. They're stuck in a time warp living in a delusional world.

MindSpin · « **Reply #133 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:44:31 AM »

Quote from: jack_ftype on July 17, 2009, 07:14:37 AM

great dude, why don't you save us all some braincells and time and go start posting on an MMA board since you have so much respect and admiration for it, the question begs to be asked why you would spend so much time posting at a board dedicated to a hobby that you have no respect for.

Most of my posts today are in fact in the GetBig MMA board. I didn't start this thread but it has to do with both bodybuilding & MMA so I commented on it. But, as I said, I do believe there is a good place for bodybuilding, not as it is today, but as I believe it should be.

Chick · « **Reply #134 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:48:28 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 17, 2009, 07:41:23 AM

I went through the insecure phase of my life in my early 20s and thought bbing was the answer. The biggest I ever got was around 230lbs with 8-10%BF. Puny by bodybuilding standards but huge to the average person. The only people that were impressed were horny schmoes and impressionable up & comers who wanted to be the next Mr. O. Everyone else had a negative reaction to it. Just walking down the beach I would hear regular comments about steroids. Most girls thought I was too big and were grossed out. Being big and winning bodybuilding shows is not at all what I thought it would be. Once I took it as far as I could, I moved on. The amount of effort that goes into being big & shredded can be put to much more fruitful use and that's what I did. Guys like Chick make me laugh. They're stuck in a time warp living in a delusional world.

Translation: you came to all these rationalizations AFTER you realized you sucked and was never going to be a pro...

You're like the fools that always seem to find Jesus....in Jail

You "moved on" because you had no choice.

What "delusional world" am I living in, exactly? I'm at the top of my game, retired on a win, have numerous contracts, MC the Olympia and a host of other shows, travel all over, made numerous national commercials, movies, etc...

The joke...you're looking at in the mirror

MindSpin · « **Reply #135 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:48:48 AM »

Quote from: Chick on July 17, 2009, 07:00:45 AM

Whats it mean? Everything if your a competitive BB

You're as clueless as Basile

Time to get off the BB site.....become a mod at GetMMA.com

I see you are ignoring my wager. Let me make this really easy for you. I've made close to $600,000 per year for each of the last three years. If you made more, make the bet and pick up an easy $5,000. If you didn't, STFU

MindSpin · « **Reply #136 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:51:12 AM »

Quote from: Chick on July 17, 2009, 07:48:28 AM

Translation: you came to all these rationalizations AFTER you realized you sucked and was never going to be a pro...

You're like the fools that always seem to find Jesus....in Jail

You "moved on" because you had no choice.

What "delusional world" am I living in, exactly? I'm at the top of my game, retired on a win, have numerous contracts, MC the Olympia and a host of other shows, travel all over, made numerous national commercials, movies, etc...

The joke...you're looking at in the mirror

You didn't win that show and everyone knows it.

And, I NEVER wanted to be a pro. Why would I? There is no money it. I would have had to become a drug dealer. And I would have had to jeopardize my health. The life of a pro bodybuilder is a miserable one.

Chick · « **Reply #137 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:54:55 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 17, 2009, 07:51:12 AM

You didn't win that show and everyone knows it.

And, I NEVER wanted to be a pro. Why would I? There is no money it. I would have had to become a drug dealer. And I would have had to jeopardize my health. The life of a pro bodybuilder is a miserable one.

Please...it wasn't close. Amazing how no one who was there saw it as anything but a clear victory.

Of course you never wanted to be a pro...AFTER you failed at trying.

I assume you are a lifetime natural?

As for your wager, you're right...you make more than I do. Congratulations Hopefully, I can make the bills this month

MAXX · « **Reply #138 on:** July 17, 2009, 08:02:42 AM »

Doesn't anyone else find it funny that one of the mods of a bodybuilding board absolutely despises bodybuilding

polychronopolous · « **Reply #139 on:** July 17, 2009, 08:33:59 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 17, 2009, 08:02:42 AM

Doesn't anyone else find it funny that one of the mods of a bodybuilding board absolutely despises bodybuilding

This is the reason getbig.com is the best forum in the world.

Not to mention for a long while we had a troll who refused to post a pic with 33,000 posts moderating and dishing out advice on the Training forum.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #140 on:** July 17, 2009, 08:40:45 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 17, 2009, 07:41:23 AM

I went through the insecure phase of my life in my early 20s and thought bbing was the answer. The biggest I ever got was around 230lbs with 8-10%BF. Puny by bodybuilding standards but huge to the average person. The only people that were impressed were horny schmoes and impressionable up & comers who wanted to be the next Mr. O. Everyone else had a negative reaction to it. Just walking down the beach I would hear regular comments about steroids. Most girls thought I was too big and were grossed out. Being big and winning bodybuilding shows is not at all what I thought it would be. Once I took it as far as I could, I moved on. The amount of effort that goes into being big & shredded can be put to much more fruitful use and that's what I did. Guys like Chick make me laugh. They're stuck in a time warp living in a delusional world.

I really don't get why you are so soured on BBing, or being a big dude in general Mindspin. I take pride in what i have accomplished.

I not as developed as you were at your best, but I'm no slouch...and i don't feel that people are as negative towards my body as you do. Just the opposite, My perception is most people are impressed in a good way.

And no....i don't hang around the gym 24/7 fishing for compliments

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #141 on:** July 17, 2009, 08:43:33 AM »

Quote from: polychronopolous on July 17, 2009, 08:33:59 AM

This is the reason getbig.com is the best forum in the world.

Not to mention for a long while we had a troll who refused to post a pic with 33,000 posts moderating and dishing out advice on the Training forum.

Why...did that fairy finally man up and post a pic?

Earl1972 · « **Reply #142 on:** July 17, 2009, 09:02:53 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 17, 2009, 08:02:42 AM

Doesn't anyone else find it funny that one of the mods of a bodybuilding board absolutely despises bodybuilding

actually it fits perfectly because getbig is more anti bodybuilding

guys that hate bodybuilding yet can't stop talking about it

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MAXX · « **Reply #143 on:** July 17, 2009, 09:04:30 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on July 17, 2009, 09:02:53 AM

actually it fits perfectly because getbig is more anti bodybuilding

guys that hate bodybuilding yet can't stop talking about it

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good point

noworries · « **Reply #144 on:** July 17, 2009, 09:15:04 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 17, 2009, 09:04:30 AM

good point

x2

Whose body would you rather have. Chics or Mindspin (when they were in shape). Also, whose body is more attractive to the general public. Whose body is more apt for sports and being athletic

MindSpin · « **Reply #145 on:** July 17, 2009, 12:17:03 PM »

Quote from: Groink on July 17, 2009, 08:40:45 AM

I really don't get why you are so soured on BBing, or being a big dude in general Mindspin. I take pride in what i have accomplished.

I not as developed as you were at your best, but I'm no slouch...and i don't feel that people are as negative towards my body as you do. Just the opposite, My perception is most people are impressed in a good way.

And no....i don't hang around the gym 24/7 fishing for compliments

I'm not at all soured on bbing. I just get a perverse joy out of bursting people's bubbles. It's why I beat on man-faced she beasts who think the reason everyone is staring at them is because they're so hot. Or delusional juice monkeys that walk around thinking they're the shit. When they come to the realization that the world isn't as they perceive it, and that all of the drugs, time in the gym, endless diets, hours in tanning beds, etc. amount to nothing, well that's just priceless

That said, building a physique like the one you're describing is something to admire. Being and looking fit, athletic and healthy is what bodybuilding is to me.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #146 on:** July 17, 2009, 12:56:55 PM »

Quote from: Groink on July 16, 2009, 10:35:17 PM

I see your point as well. To expand on what I'm saying, I mean that just because someone is schooled in the arts be it jujitsu , grappling, muy tai or boxing you are really not a person to be reckoned with unless you are physically capable enough and proficient enough in your discipline that you can use it in a real world, real time situation...against a person who has bad intentions.

We all know the guy who's a "black belt' and tries his moves on you...and they don't work, or you just knock him on his ass. So he tells you "no put your arm out like this" and it still doesn't work LOL

Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight. Now that this is out of the way.....

Certain arts lend themselves to being more practical than others. Arts wherein the practicioners practice against a live resisting opponent tends to be more practical. In Judo, Jiujitsu, boxing, muay thai, kyoshukin, where you are sparring full contact, I highly doubt you will have a BB or a high level guy having to ask you to "put your arm out like this..." They will take it, or set you up where your arm is there for the taking. That being said, mastering a particular discipline or range is no indicator of combat effectiveness. There is a NAIA wrestler in our academy with little to no BJJ training who can dominate because of his athletic ability and "heavy hips." If he were allowed to punch, he'd be hell on wheels. Although I can tap him, he, if he were allowed to strike while on the ground would be able to KO me if it were permitted. The point of MMA is to show that combat sports has evolved, and you need to be competent in all ranges and master at one (where you can default to when in trouble.). And size and strength do play a role, no matter what people may say, extreme size that inhibits athleticism is useless.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #147 on:** July 17, 2009, 01:10:50 PM »

Quote from: Groink on July 17, 2009, 08:43:33 AM

Why...did that fairy finally man up and post a pic?

haha, no I was actually referring to Bluto with that reference but I suppose pumpster isn't too far off now that I think about it.

body88 · « **Reply #148 on:** July 17, 2009, 02:18:50 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 16, 2009, 05:59:15 PM

Ha ha! Your paycheck sucks! You work in an industry that dwindles by the day because MOST people think its a joke. Sad thing is, that you actually think you make good money...lol.

Guys like you can never make it in the real business world, because the minute you walk into an interview, board room or whatever, it is instantly known that you are a drug-dealing felon.

500k or so a year is not real money? I'm about to call bullshit, and I think bb (in it's current state) sucks.

MindSpin · « **Reply #149 on:** July 17, 2009, 04:42:09 PM »

Quote from: body88 on July 17, 2009, 02:18:50 PM

500k or so a year is not real money? I'm about to call bullshit, and I think bb (in it's current state) sucks.

I make over $500k a year and live very well. Never said it wasn't real money.