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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #150 on: July 17, 2009, 05:03:10 PM »
Quote from: americanbulldog on July 17, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight.  Now that this is out of the way.....

Certain arts lend themselves to being more practical than others.  Arts wherein the practicioners practice against a live resisting opponent tends to be more practical.  In Judo, Jiujitsu, boxing, muay thai, kyoshukin, where you are sparring full contact, I highly doubt you will have a BB or a high level guy having to ask you to "put your arm out like this..."  They will take it, or set you up where your arm is there for the taking.  That being said, mastering a particular discipline or range is no indicator of combat effectiveness.  There is a NAIA wrestler in our academy with little to no BJJ training who can dominate because of his athletic ability and "heavy hips."  If he were allowed to punch, he'd be hell on wheels.  Although I can tap him, he, if he were allowed to strike while on the ground would be able to KO me if it were permitted.  The point of MMA is to show that combat sports has evolved, and you need to be competent in all ranges and master at one (where you can default to when in trouble.).  And size and strength do play a role, no matter what people may say, extreme size that inhibits athleticism is useless. 

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Quote from: MindSpin on July 17, 2009, 04:42:09 PM
I make over $500k a year and live very well.  Never said it wasn't real money.

Hahahaha, sure you do..and while you're at it you're a leer jet flying cage fighting playmate screwing cage fighter, right ?
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #151 on: July 17, 2009, 05:15:05 PM »
Why is extreme size that inhibits athleticism useless if it provides some sort of satisfaction for the person?

How many of us need athleticism in modern life anyway? I don't know about you but its for me to play a "sport"...
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #152 on: July 17, 2009, 05:24:52 PM »
Carrying extreme muscle which has no function is as useful as carrying around 30lbs extra of fat e.g

Why be 260 with X amount of strength

When you can be 230 and be just as strong - that 30lbs other than personal satisfaction is useless.
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #153 on: July 17, 2009, 05:45:34 PM »
Quote from: Ursus on July 17, 2009, 05:24:52 PM
Carrying extreme muscle which has no function is as useful as carrying around 30lbs extra of fat e.g

Why be 260 with X amount of strength

When you can be 230 and be just as strong - that 30lbs other than personal satisfaction is useless.

If you're an IFBB pro (which the title and thread is about)...it's certainly not useless.

What IS useless....is the topic

It's a retarded as saying that an MMA fightrers skills are useless on a BB stage
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #154 on: July 17, 2009, 05:50:30 PM »
Fedor would walk up KO you in a second take the mic off you, provide an entertaining and humourous seminar with interactive demonstrations then take the winners cheque and donate it to a good cause.

And the whole IFBB could do nothing about it. In fact the competitors would applause and laugh at his interesting anicdotes
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #155 on: July 17, 2009, 05:54:53 PM »
Quote from: Ursus on July 17, 2009, 05:50:30 PM
Fedor would walk up KO you in a second take the mic off you, provide an entertaining and humourous seminar with interactive demonstrations then take the winners cheque and donate it to a good cause.

And the whole IFBB could do nothing about it. In fact the competitors would applause and laugh at his interesting anicdotes

Are you drunk?
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #156 on: July 17, 2009, 05:55:29 PM »
I do not drink.

Why do you ask?

Right now i am eating wheaten bread and jam with lemonade
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #157 on: July 17, 2009, 06:15:19 PM »
Quote from: Ursus on July 17, 2009, 05:55:29 PM
I do not drink.

Why do you ask?

Right now i am eating wheaten bread and jam with lemonade

Just a guess...based on your comment


stoned?
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #158 on: July 17, 2009, 06:18:01 PM »
No sir. I do not touch drugs at all. I am a clean living man.
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #159 on: July 18, 2009, 12:41:47 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 16, 2009, 09:55:19 AM
I personally don't believe that you need to be a trained MMA fighter or juiced up bodybuilder to mask some sort of insecurity.  More important than anything, is your sense of confidence and mindset.  Instead, I am refering to the juiced up meatheads who walk around thinking they're tough guys (99% of bodybuilders).  Sorry, guys...you ain't shit.

I guess what I don't get is the "you ain't shit" part of this. Because in what respect is that person not shit? If you have no interest in fighting then potentially not being a super-hard fist machine doesn't matter because you might be good at real life, i.e. have a personality, interesting hobbies, nice girlfriend whatever.

I take your point about it being lame to walk around with imaginary lat syndrome, or to project a false image of aggresive fighting ability, but only because I think anyone who actively looks for a fight is only fighting themselves, or their dad when he used to beat the crap out of them as a child.
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #160 on: July 18, 2009, 12:46:22 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 16, 2009, 05:59:15 PM
Ha ha!  Your paycheck sucks!  You work in an industry that dwindles by the day because MOST people think its a joke.  Sad thing is, that you actually think you make good money...lol.

Guys like you can never make it in the real business world, because the minute you walk into an interview, board room or whatever, it is instantly known that you are a drug-dealing felon.    

Now not to sound like a holier-than-thou guy, but makes me laugh when people rip into the bodybuilding world, when they have come to a sight called "getbig.com" about bodybuilding and actively joined up, and chosen to spend half their free time on here. It must hold some interest for you eh Spinney?  ;D
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #161 on: July 18, 2009, 09:10:31 AM »
You just gotta love some of the guys on here.

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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #162 on: July 18, 2009, 06:33:19 PM »
Chick is owning the piss out of everyone on this thread, and without much effort I might add.
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #163 on: July 20, 2009, 08:23:46 AM »
LOL.  Chick claims bodybuilders are athletes and to substantiate his point he talks about his golf & bowling game....LMAO! 

Sure bodybuilders are athletes.  Check out Phil Health injuring himself while performing an astonishing feat of athleticism (1:40)....lunging to the side bwahahah!



And here is that "pudgy and lazy" BJ Penn, the UFC LIGHTWEIGHT champ, showing his athletisism.



Bottom line, if you want to spend your life building gobs of useless muscle, that's fine.  Just understand, that when it's all said and done, all that muscle gets you nothing.  No money.  No fame.  No health.  No nothing.  Worse yet, A 155LB "pudgy" twerp like BJ Penn can dance with your girl, and you can't do shit about it ;D
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #164 on: July 20, 2009, 08:30:36 AM »
too bad most street fights aren't determined by doing pool jumps, MindSpit.   ::)   :-*
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #165 on: July 20, 2009, 08:34:23 AM »
Quote from: ManBearPig... on July 20, 2009, 08:30:36 AM
too bad most street fights aren't determined by doing pool jumps, MindSpit.   ::)   :-*

Athleticism comes into play, and BJ clearly has it.  Musclebound juice monkeys like Chick are as fragile as a kitten.  Look at Phil Health.  Laid out flat from lunging to the side...pathetic ::)
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #166 on: July 20, 2009, 08:44:58 AM »
Quote from: Ursus on July 17, 2009, 06:18:01 PM
No sir. I do not touch drugs at all. I am a clean living man.
Sounds like a Republican Senator who's been arrested for having a hard drive full of child porn.  :D
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #167 on: July 20, 2009, 08:45:35 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 20, 2009, 08:23:46 AM
LOL.  Chick claims bodybuilders are athletes and to substantiate his point he talks about his golf & bowling game....LMAO! 

Sure bodybuilders are athletes.  Check out Phil Health injuring himself while performing an astonishing feat of athleticism (1:40)....lunging to the side bwahahah!



And here is that "pudgy and lazy" BJ Penn, the UFC LIGHTWEIGHT champ, showing his athletisism.



Bottom line, if you want to spend your life building gobs of useless muscle, that's fine.  Just understand, that when it's all said and done, all that muscle gets you nothing.  No money.  No fame.  No health.  No nothing.  Worse yet, A 155LB "pudgy" twerp like BJ Penn can dance with your girl, and you can't do shit about it ;D


he cramped up...i know, no other athlete has ever had a leg cramp before

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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #168 on: July 20, 2009, 08:48:24 AM »
It seems to happen often with bodybuilders who are dehydrated and on diuretics.  Again, another example of what bodybuilders do to "look" big & tough when in fact they are on the verge of collapsing.
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #169 on: July 20, 2009, 08:55:29 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 20, 2009, 08:48:24 AM
It seems to happen often with bodybuilders who are dehydrated and on diuretics.  Again, another example of what bodybuilders do to "look" big & tough when in fact they are on the verge of collapsing.

Realy?  This is the first video Ive ever seen of a guestposer actually going to the ground....Im sure you could produce a few.

Your argument makes you look like an ignorant fool...
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #170 on: July 20, 2009, 09:05:38 AM »
Quote from: Chick on July 20, 2009, 08:55:29 AM
Realy?  This is the first video Ive ever seen of a guestposer actually going to the ground....Im sure you could produce a few.

Your argument makes you look like an ignorant fool...

My goodness Chick.  You've been around long enough to remember all sorts of great incidents like Paul Dillet dropping to the ground, in the middle of a contest because he was twitching cramping mess.  He had to be carried off stage...lol.  Or how about Mohamed Benaziza actually going into cardiac arrest because of the amount of diuretics he had in his system.  At any local show, you're bound to see at least one moron to locks up and has to limp off stage or cut his routine short because of cramping.  Are you really that delusional ???
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #171 on: July 20, 2009, 09:09:41 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 20, 2009, 09:05:38 AM
My goodness Chick.  You've been around long enough to remember all sorts of great incidents like Paul Dillet dropping to the ground, in the middle of a contest because he was twitching cramping mess.  He had to be carried off stage...lol.  Or how about Mohamed Benaziza actually going into cardiac arrest because of the amount of diuretics he had in his system.  At any local show, you're bound to see at least one moron to locks up and has to limp off stage or cut his routine short because of cramping.  Are you really that delusional ???

Didn't Lee's Priest's ex lock up on stage too?
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #172 on: July 20, 2009, 09:12:35 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on July 20, 2009, 09:05:38 AM
My goodness Chick.  You've been around long enough to remember all sorts of great incidents like Paul Dillet dropping to the ground, in the middle of a contest because he was twitching cramping mess.  He had to be carried off stage...lol.  Or how about Mohamed Benaziza actually going into cardiac arrest because of the amount of diuretics he had in his system.  At any local show, you're bound to see at least one moron to locks up and has to limp off stage or cut his routine short because of cramping.  Are you really that delusional ???

Ive also seen just as many NFL players lock up during games, pitches break their arm while throwing a ball, runners dehydrated, gymnasts running into the horse at full speed, etc, etc...
Are you really that retarded?
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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #173 on: July 20, 2009, 09:12:52 AM »
Quote from: Chick on July 20, 2009, 08:55:29 AM
Realy?  This is the first video Ive ever seen of a guestposer actually going to the ground....Im sure you could produce a few.

Your argument makes you look like an ignorant fool...


Ha ha ha hah!!!   2 minutes on youtube and look what comes up.  Look at these juice monkeys cramp....





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Re: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
« Reply #174 on: July 20, 2009, 09:14:54 AM »
Quote from: Chick on July 20, 2009, 09:12:35 AM
Ive also seen just as many NFL players lock up during games, pitches break their arm while throwing a ball, runners dehydrated, gymnasts running into the horse at full speed, etc, etc...
Are you really that retarded?

No shit!  They're cramping up from doing athletic events, not from standing on stage in their underwear.  Ha hahahah!!  You're the stereotypical meathead with no brains....lol.
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