MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros (Bob Chick Melting Down)

[MindSpin]

You do understand that the guy you are calling pudgy and lazy is smaller than you and weaker than you yet would make you cry within 2 seconds.  You would look like someone getting ready to be executed begging for their pussy life before you could take a breath. But pretty sure you would'nt have to worry about the fucking your girl thing.  He would be stepping down to far for that.

BJ would own me in 2 seconds.  I put pudgy in quotes, becasue someone else called him that.

[regmac]

I think the better question is, "Would an IFBB Pro beat any person who is in shape in a fight?" The answer is no.

Flex 's martial arts with his strengh   is good enough to clean out the whole mma.   And Craig (along with Lelly and some kid) allegedly can kill and burn someone...so we have a chance.

[noworries]

BJ would own me in 2 seconds.  I put pudgy in quotes, becasue someone else called him that.

I don't think BJ is pudgy. He is soft looking but far from pudgy.  He actually as some abs stick through sometimes.  His carb intake is so high.  It isn't like he has rolls over his belt.

[MindSpin]

I don't think BJ is pudgy. He is soft looking but far from pudgy.  He actually as some abs stick through sometimes.  His carb intake is so high.  It isn't like he has rolls over his belt.

I agree with you, but by bodybuilding standards, he is a fat bastard. 

[MindSpin]

Flex 's martial arts with his strengh   is good enough to clean out the whole mma.   And Craig (along with Lelly and some kid) allegedly can kill and burn someone...so we have a chance.

LOL.  If that were true, why doesn't he get into MMA.  That broke-ass "thug" would finally be able to pay his bills.

[americanbulldog]

LOL.  If that were true, why doesn't he get into MMA.  That broke-ass "thug" would finally be able to pay his bills.

Shure helped against the NINJA's.   

Point sparring is not combative.  Killing and burning a defenseless female isn't something most would advocate. 

[noworries]

I agree with you, but by bodybuilding standards, he is a fat bastard. 

Well I am pretty sure BB is very far from BJ's mind.  I am also pretty sure not one BB in the world can do what he does on the ground.  So having muscle really aren't needed in his case.  I also bet if he got most BB's down on the ground that little pudgy body would be beating the shit out of them and all they could do is lay there and take it. 

[MindSpin]

Well I am pretty sure BB is very far from BJ's mind.  I am also pretty sure not one BB in the world can do what he does on the ground.  So having muscle really aren't needed in his case.  I also bet if he got most BB's down on the ground that little pudgy body would be beating the shit out of them and all they could do is lay there and take it. 

Hey man, you're arguing my side.  I said the same thing a few pages back.  But, we've got the "legend" Bob Chick claiming that bodybuilders are "athletes", that bodybuilding is a great "sport" and that he is at the "top of his game". 

The truth is, competitive bodybuilders are not athletes.  They are drug dealers/abusers.  Competitive bodybuilding is not a sport.  It's a psychiatric illness (muscle dysmorphic disorder), which leads to addiction, health complications, criminal activity and a whole host of other complications.  And, in spite of coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia, this is the "Sport" that Bob claims to be at the top of.

Imagine that.  Being at the bottom of a sport, that's not even a sport, but a medical condition no different from anorexia.   

[noworries]

Hey man, you're arguing my side.  I said the same thing a few pages back.  But, we've got the "legend" Bob Chick claiming that bodybuilders are "athletes", that bodybuilding is a great "sport" and that he is at the "top of his game". 

The truth is, competitive bodybuilders are not athletes.  They are drug dealers/abusers.  Competitive bodybuilding is not a sport.  It's a psychiatric illness (muscle dysmorphic disorder), which leads to addiction, health complications, criminal activity and a whole host of other complications.  And, in spite of coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia, this is the "Sport" that Bob claims to be at the top of.

Imagine that.  Being at the bottom of a sport, that's not even a sport, but a medical condition no different from anorexia.   

It is true about BB's.  They are overly muscled to do anything but stand in one spot and pose.  That basically is what they are made to do.  For some reason that is what they consider an achievement.  I personally do not think BB is athletic at all.  Lifting weights does not make you an athlete.  Lifting weights was something a long time ago everyone frowned upon because it hindered your athletic performance (except football where they wanted you bigger but wanted you to lift lighter weights so you didn't lose speed or agility, the two things you do lose when you get overly muscled).

Some people consider BB a sport because it guys and girls competing against each other.  And mix in the dieting and weightlifting and that is considered the recipe for an athlete.  Again BB's could be considered athletes.  But, they are far from being athletic.  BB is truly just a glorified beauty pageant like Miss America or a bikini contest for men.  Except they are judged on their bodies not their faces.

[Chick]

Hey man, you're arguing my side.  I said the same thing a few pages back.  But, we've got the "legend" Bob Chick claiming that bodybuilders are "athletes", that bodybuilding is a great "sport" and that he is at the "top of his game". 

The truth is, competitive bodybuilders are not athletes.  They are drug dealers/abusers.  Competitive bodybuilding is not a sport.  It's a psychiatric illness (muscle dysmorphic disorder), which leads to addiction, health complications, criminal activity and a whole host of other complications.  And, in spite of coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia, this is the "Sport" that Bob claims to be at the top of.

Imagine that.  Being at the bottom of a sport, that's not even a sport, but a medical condition no different from anorexia.   

Really burns your ass that despite being "juiced to the gills", that you couldn't even get out of the local level, doesn't it?

LOL...what a fuckin clown...a internet loser trying to talk smack

[MindSpin]

Really burns your ass that despite being "juiced to the gills", that you couldn't even get out of the local level, doesn't it?

LOL...what a fuckin clown...a internet loser trying to talk smack

you tried your hardest and came in last.  I bet you where on suicide watch...ha ha!

[ManBearPig...]

one of the definitions of a "sport" is acting and reacting to the situation around you.

you can even make the argument for "sports" such as golf and bowling.  if your ball's in a sand trap you'd hit it differently than off a tee.  if you have a 7-10 split you'd bowl differently than if you had a full rack.

there's absolutely no "action and reaction" in bodybuilding.  when some guy flexes a tricep better than you, you can't flex extra better than him to beat him.  all i've seen done is a situation like that is some grab ass on stage and laughing.

as for Bob's "success" in bodybuilding, i think he'd agree he's milked bodybuilding for all it's worth.  he most likely makes more than consistent olympia winners by doing bodybuilding related stuff that actually has a paycheck in it.  he never won the olympia, but he keeps his name out there.

as for MindSpin, he's a good guy.  I'm surprised you're even reacting to bob's comments like this because you usually have a "who gives a shit" atittude.  you have to concede bob's gone farther in bodybuilding than you have.  of course you could argue you're more succesful than him, if success is measured by a paycheck.  neither one of you's gonna be at the soup kitchen anytime soon.

[MindSpin]

one of the definitions of a "sport" is acting and reacting to the situation around you.

you can even make the argument for "sports" such as golf and bowling.  if your ball's in a sand trap you'd hit it differently than off a tee.  if you have a 7-10 split you'd bowl differently than if you had a full rack.

there's absolutely no "action and reaction" in bodybuilding.  when some guy flexes a tricep better than you, you can't flex extra better than him to beat him.  all i've seen done is a situation like that is some grab ass on stage and laughing.

as for Bob's "success" in bodybuilding, i think he'd agree he's milked bodybuilding for all it's worth.  he most likely makes more than consistent olympia winners by doing bodybuilding related stuff that actually has a paycheck in it.  he never won the olympia, but he keeps his name out there.

as for MindSpin, he's a good guy.  I'm surprised you're even reacting to bob's comments like this because you usually have a "who gives a shit" atittude.  you have to concede bob's gone farther in bodybuilding than you have.  of course you could argue you're more succesful than him, if success is measured by a paycheck.  neither one of you's gonna be at the soup kitchen anytime soon.

Good post.  And yes.  Bob has gone further in bbing than I did.  But, to me, competitive bodybuilding is a joke and it's a laughable accomplishment.  If coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia is his greatest achievement, then I don't know what to say.

[body88]

you tried your hardest and came in last.  I bet you where on suicide watch...ha ha!

I think you're going overboard.  Chick has not failed at his dream.  He's achieved it in a different context.  The guy makes over 500k a year working in the fitness industry.  he gets paid to work out and to do what he loves.  To me, thats living the dream.  If you can make 500k+ doing something you love, you've made it.

Sounds like your passions are climbing and running.  If you could get paid 500k per year to run marathons and climb all the time, would you do it?  You might make more money than Chick, but are you doing what you truly love?  Would you be consulting in your spare time for fun if you didn't get paid to do it?  would you do it for free?  Doubt it.

Being at the very top of your industry is not the end all be all.  Would you say the founder of Apple was a failure because he's not generating as much revenue as Bill Gates and since his computer systems are used by far less companies and consumers?

[MAXX]

I don't understand this thread..

I didn't start lifting weights to look tough or like i could kick someones ass. I don't think that's the reason bodybuilders do either.

If that's the reason you start bb in the first place then you are a serious tool (mindspin)

[Army of One]

I wonder if Bob thought he was living the life while being groped by horny schmoes at the Mirage Hotel to pay that weeks rent.

[MindSpin]

I think you're going overboard.  Chick has not failed at his dream.  He's achieved it in a different context.  The guy makes over 500k a year working in the fitness industry.  he gets paid to work out and to do what he loves.  To me, thats living the dream.  If you can make 500k+ doing something you love, you've made it.

Sounds like your passions are climbing and running.  If you could get paid 500k per year to run marathons and climb all the time, would you do it?  You might make more money than Chick, but are you doing what you truly love?  Would you be consulting in your spare time for fun if you didn't get paid to do it?  would you do it for free?  Doubt it.

Being at the very top of your industry is not the end all be all.  Would you say the founder of Apple was a failure because he's not generating as much revenue as Bill Gates and since his computer systems are used by far less companies and consumers?

lol!  Bob doesn't make $500k year.  Ask him how much he makes.  You'll laugh your ass off.  And I agree, being at the top of your industry isn't the end all be all.  But it was Bob who said he was at "the top of his game".  I merely pointed the inaccuracy in that statement.

As for Jobs vs. Gates.  Both are in the top 1% of income earners in their fields and both have been recognized by their industry as pioneers.  So both are at the top of their game.

[MindSpin]

I don't understand this thread..

I didn't start lifting weights to look tough or like i could kick someones ass. I don't think that's the reason bodybuilders do either.

If that's the reason you start bb in the first place then you are a serious tool (mindspin)

You are in the minority.  The vast majority of kids who aspire to be bodybuilders, think bigger muscles equals strength, respect, more chicks, attention, etc. 

[Army of One]

lol!  Bob doesn't make $500k year.  Ask him how much he makes.  You'll laugh your ass off.  And I agree, being at the top of your industry isn't the end all be all.  But it was Bob who said he was at "the top of his game".  I merely pointed the inaccuracy in that statement.

As for Jobs vs. Gates.  Both are in the top 1% of income earners in their fields and both have been recognized by their industry as pioneers.  So both are at the top of their game.

Im sure Bob has quoted the $500,000 a year ballpark figure on here, are you saying Bob is a liar, Mindspin?

[Fury]

Im sure Bob has quoted the $500,000 a year ballpark figure on here, are you saying Bob is a liar, Mindspin?

Homosexual oil sheiks pay well so it's plausible. Depends on how many were in the hotel room at the Mirage.

[Army of One]

Homosexual oil sheiks pay well so it's plausible. Depends on how many were in the hotel room at the Mirage.

Well google shows me this picture of the deluxe hotel room, similar to the room 7 by the ice machine.By my calculations, 20-25 homosexual arab sheiks could be fit in such a room, if we allow for a variance of 10 or so pulling out because they realised Bob would never do shit on an Olympia stage, then Id say 12 turned up.

[Fury]

Well google shows me this picture of the deluxe hotel room, similar to the room 7 by the ice machine.By my calculations, 20-25 homosexual arab sheiks could be fit in such a room, if we allow for a variance of 10 or so pulling out because they realised Bob would never do shit on an Olympia stage, then Id say 12 turned up.

12 sounds reasonable. 12 times let's say $2500 (I'm not versed in schmoe prices) a pop = $30,000 / session. Taking into account that Bob was probably reduced to bed rest for a week or two after each session in order to let his lower half recuperate then it's certainly feasible for him to pull down quite a nice living working that hotel room a few times a month!

$2500 is probably being real generous considering it's Baghdad Bob.

[Army of One]

12 sounds reasonable. 12 times let's say $2500 (I'm not versed in schmoe prices) a pop = $30,000 / session. Taking into account that Bob was probably reduced to bed rest for a week or two after each session in order to let his lower half recuperate then it's certainly feasible for him to pull down quite a nice living working that hotel room a few times a month!

$2500 is probably being real generous considering it's Baghdad Bob.

Yes, a quick artists rendition of the event shows 8 homosexual arabs fitting quite comfortably around Bob, so had many of the original participants not pulled out due to Bobs lack of credentials in the Bodybuilding world, we could be talking about 20-30 in the room and a months bedrest at minimum.

[MindSpin]

Im sure Bob has quoted the $500,000 a year ballpark figure on here, are you saying Bob is a liar, Mindspin?

Read back through this thread and see for yourself.

[MindSpin]

Hey Bob.  When you let guys rub oil on you, and you flex your muscles for them, is that considered "athletic"?